What is cannabrex?
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What is cannabrex?
Cannabrex Nutriceutical :thumbsup:
VERY interesting. I've never heard of it. Let us know how it works once you have tried it please.
I will.
THanks.....always looking for new ideas here . :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MacMerdin
http://boards.cannabis.com/recipes/1...conut-oil.html
Mac this is the recipe I used to use before the recipe i use now. Personally the slow cooker makes miuch better capsules imo but not everyone is the same. This might be a recipe you may want to try; something different also.
good luck. :)
Thanks weedhound.
I finally got it to work. :thumbsup:
I emptied a batch that was from an extraction and cooked the oil to 325 and turned it off. First time was a boiling water bath and I took 3 and nothing happened. Now, I took one and I'm feeling good now. I think I've found my temperature.
Thanks a bunch. I like this. ;)
BTW, I received my cannabrex today and will let you know how it goes next batch.
Update on Cannabrex.
I highly recommend it for those who seem to be immune to the coconut/vegetable oil recipes (like I seem to be). Their oil is caprylic/capric triglycerides which metabolize better (at least for me). It is seen as a carbohydrate instead of a fat by the body which gets metabolized better.
p.s. I am in no way affiliated with Cannabrex.
Did you just follow the cannabrex user guide? or just use their supplies in combination with a slow cooker?Quote:
Originally Posted by MacMerdin
Its basically mixing the THC with their supplied oil in their "Decarboxylation" chamber (aka a glass jar with a lid) and then putting that in water, bringing it to a boil and then putting it on medium/low for 30 minutes.
I kinda think that the jar idea idea is a good plan, kinda creating just one more barrier to trap the THC in. I'm thinking of just ordering the refills cannabrex offers and then just using my own supplies for the other stuff (ie capsule machine, capsules, spatula, "Decarboxylation" chamber).
Weed please don't be pissed at me for multiple post. I asked the following question in Flames post and forgot that you had started this thread. If i really shouldn't have double posted let me know and ill delete the one in flames thread In regards to the 750-800 post that was in flames thread.
Thx
Hey I have a question that I would love to be answered by Weedhound or Flame if I am so lucky as to hear from him
I have spent many hours reading almost all some 750-800 post (I have missed about 100 or so). In regards to using crock pots.
Early on in the thread there was some discussion about when using crock pots an alternative to simply placing the coffee cup in the center of the crock pot was to place water in the crock pot and place the coffee cup in water.
Flame moved away from this because of the fact many were having an issue with what was later discovered was the temp not getting high enough.
My 1st question
For some one willing to monitor the temp and willing to cycle the temp back and forth between high and low to keep the temp around 225 for at least 4-6 hrs. Cant it be used?
In regards to the process from what i have read in this thread Are the following critical items that would ruin a batch?
1. Temp must be maintained above the temp to melt the trichromes and bond the THC to the oil but below the vape temp which would effect its potency.
2. Time is dependent on temp. Basically if what I understand is correct. High temp means short cook time and low cook temp means longer cook times.
3. Grinding the weed. The better its grinned the better chance for couch lock. Basically i want to expose as much surface area of the weed as possible to the oil. If all you have is a basic 3 stage grinder is that enough if you grind the shit out of it? i mean grind the shit out it.
4. The weed. Its a vital ingredient why wouldn't the quality matter?
In regards to using ABV let me ask a general question before I get into a specific. We all know that you cant just eat weed alone and get high. The THC has to be activated or released via heat /alcohol. Does the some hold true for AB V Could someone just swallow ABV and get the same effects as cooking with it.
Hi Umpum,
Actually I'm not going to be much help here but I'll share what I have tried and what works best for me. I must say I've never tried Cannabrex but I will give it a try; always looking for improvements.
As I mentioned in a previous post; There is (probably tons) of different ways to cook cannabis. I used to use the recipe that sickpup45 used (post # 166) but it took alot more weed to get to the same place that 4-5 capsules do n ow. And I've been using capsules for years.......don't really smoke anymore PLUS I think slow cooking overnight has had the best result for me.
(in crockpot....temps approx 225F.)
1. I have done this method and it worked fine......just the standing there with it was a real pain in the ass. Should work though.
2 Temp to use for cooking is different according to....well....everyone but the 220F overnighs best for me and no burning of the thc...which DID happen when I used sickpup's recipe.
3. Never tried with vaped weed but a friend of mine did and said it worked great
We grind it down with a metal cooking strainer. I've never tried grinding out more than that so can't say if it would help more.
4. For me, higher temps but shorter cooking time did not work out as well for me as the slow cook method and in the finished product.
I'm sorry but I don't know what ABV is. Could you fill me in?
Sorry weedhound I vape and spend a bit of time in the vape borads. ABV is "Already been vaped" weedQuote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
Thanks so much for ur help. I just got my Coconut oil from GNC. My caps should be in today. I just jot to find a freaking thermometer at the store thats not a meat thermometer. I cant wait to try. In regards to to slow cook method I am guessing that its the best option as well. What could it hurt to cook the extra time if the thc isnt being lost.
Thanks again Weed Ill post my results soon
Weed In regards to the ABV question. If I understand right one of the reasons the u cant just swallow weed is the thc has to be activated by heat. Well when you vape weed you certainly add a little heat so doesnt logic state that since a got some empty capsules, a quick cap filler some abv I could just fill them up and take them? just a thought
We dont vape so cant answer yay or nay there; sorry. Anyone else tried it and if so your experiences?? ump, if you try it yourselff can you let us know how it went for you? Thanks for the new ideas. :)
Hi, I haven't tried it but I have heard that you need something like the oil for you to be able to fully absorb the THC.
MacMerdin:Quote:
Originally Posted by pyratskull
Thanks for trying it out, and we are glad you are benefitting from the system.
pyratskull:
You can just get the refills if you already have the other equipment. But if you don't- it is a pretty good deal...
If anyone has any questions . . . I am around . . .
Ill be trying it this weekend:thumbsup::thumbsup: ill let you know soon. In regards to the oil yes the thc has to bond with it (the reason margarine doesnt work) but thats with bud before the thc has been activated/released. (edjucated(grin) guess) Ill do it if it works ill fill you in abd start a new thread on it and post the link to it. Thanks again weed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
my turn to contribute:D
have now tried this 4 times.
the combination which works best so far was the latest.
-1.5g of keef
-3.5g of prime nug (white widow) (3 stage ground, see below)
-3.5 teaspoons clarified butter
-crockpot, low setting, lid vented 3/4 in and small towel on top.
-temps approx 220-250F
-approx 20-24 hrs simmer
-yield, 20 caps.
I use what I call a 3-stage grinding process.
I have a standard grinder w keef screen that i use first.
I have a compact, no-screen, single chamber grinder that I re-grind the first batch with.
I then take that and put it in a tea strainer and hand grind it thru the screen with a tablespoon.
This leaves me with a thimble-worth of tiny sticks which i toss out.
This also leaves me with a finely ground powder almost the same grit/texture as the keef I then combine with it and mix well before adding to the clarified butter.
unbiased and objective reviews are difficult for me personally due to my daily smoking intake, LOL. But, when I took 2 I had a nice buzz for most of the night.
Personally, I use them as maintenance. 1 with breakfast, 1 with lunch, with occassional trips outside with my 1-hitter. When I go home, I smoke most of the night. Basically, I've been pleased with my days:thumbsup:
I gave 2 to a friend and he said they lasted for 5 hours and were fantastic when taken together. Then he asked for more:D
I guess that means they are pretty good.:smokin:
I do plan on making another larger batch after I get another batch o nugz:pimp:
I just put my batch on a few seconds ago. Did a small batch let you know how it turns out. As much as I preach thermometers I went without becuase i couldnt find one. Report back soon
Just took 3 00 Caps. of 1gram mixture Keif and Mid bud. to 1 teaspoon of Coconut oil. Batch made 7 caps w/o using the material strained out.(Im thinking of letting that dry out and then vapeing it, at the minimum Ill get a tasty hit. Ill let u know soon:pimp: I just have to not vape for the next 2 hours:cool:
:(:( nuff said? Ill go tomorrow and get the thermometer and try again
. Now to vape the coconut herb.
seems to me your events happened too fast.
you need to simmer many (3+++)hours, unless i missed somethin in your posts, it doesnt seem like you did.
my best results have been simmered overnight+
No I let it cook for 4 hours back and forth between high for a few hours then low. I went out and bought a thermometer toady. Im trying a single dose batch now. 1/2 teaspoon to .5 gram herb. Crockpot is warminig up now. Ill report back later tonight. :pimp:
Im getting ready to pull of this batch now. It has cooked now for 6 hours on high (approx 200F)
and? Anything?
Unfortunatly no. :-( I let it cook long enough. I only used 5ml or 1/2 teaspoon of oil to .5 grams of finely almost powder ganja. I put that in a tea candle tin in the crockpot and monitored the temp Are for as I can tell it never got above. 210. I then took the oil let it cool and placed in the fridge to harden. Them took it back out a few min later cut it up into pieces and placed that into the capsules. (Oil weed and all) It made two full caps. Took them both and nothing. I am guessing the crockpot isnt getting the oil hot enough to extract the thc. Once I figure out the right temp Il try it again using the small amount method untill i succeed.
The quality you start with will have a tremendous effect on the end results.Quote:
Originally Posted by umpnum14
I am assuming that we all know because they told us so.Quote:
Originally Posted by umpnum14
I have heard this same line since I started smoking in 1970 and just my own opinion on the matter is that once upon a time the weed was so less potent than it is today that eating it raw was a waste of time and herb but that today's weed is so much stronger that raw consumption is a viable alternative.
While I do not believe that raw consumption is as efficient as eating foods made with fats (canna butter/oil) that have had thc diffused into them.
It is a form of delivery that I find quite enjoyable. Similar to many peoples first few smoking experiences it took a few times before I learned to recognize the high and assorted factors that contribute to success.
1) Just like tinctures and capsules, the drier the weed I start with the better the results.
2) Like other edibles it helps to have my stomach as empty as possible when I consume raw weed.
3) If I don't supplement it with smoking the very pleasant but subtle effects can last for several hours with very little if any crash as compared to smoking.
A great way to keep a low key, functional buzz going when I am around non smoking relatives at holidays.
4) My favorite method of delivery is to stir raw (cleaned of all stems and seeds) weed in to a small cup of yogurt and eat it as part of a morning of wake and bake. I walk the dog to some woods about 1/2 mile from my house and can usually feel something starting to happen within 15-20 minutes and full effects at 1.5-2 hrs. Smoking at this point allows each delivery method to really complement each other.
Could you please explain activated THC? If we all know this, how exactly does it work? It was my own inability to explain this concept and a fair amount of personal experimentation that led to believe that they don't know what they are talking about because they have never tried it.Quote:
Originally Posted by umpnum14
OK Im on my last attempt at this with a Crock-pot. My two previous attempts were with larger crockpots and using different containers to hold the oil/herb mix. This time i went to wal-mart and bought a 2 qt classic rival crock-pot for $10. I also bought a glass shot glass. I took it home plugged it in and placed it on high and placed a teaspoon of oil in the shot glass and placed that in the center of the cooker for an hour (lid on) I came back an hour later and checked the temp and it was over 230 so i put it back down to low and it is maintaining at 220. After an the oil was at 220 for a few min I placed about 1.3 grams of flour consistency herbs in the oil. It looks thicker this time but i dont know if thats the shap of the glass or simply the mix. Anyway I used 2.3 grams to make the 1.3 grams of powder and had .7 left over that i can use in my vape to get a decent buzz.
So ok its 2:30 my time and ill be going to work soon. I should be home around 10:30. Shouldn't 8 hrs at 220 be sufficient to make this succeed? Or should I just let it keep cooking till tomorrow? Or is this too much time? WH help!!!
220 what is the approximate slow cook time?
Thanks:pimp:
Did the green dragon with everclear and an electric stove, in a controlled manner. Nothing!, well, i did get a little buzzed by the everclear, but as far as im concerned, you have to wait the whole "two weeks" for it to fully transfer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
I am really interested in this capsule idea, especially with the Weedhound seal of approval!
PS. Is the little Chihuahua the ruler of the dogs?:rastasmoke:
GoldenBoy, I use trim and stems when I make my greendragon extraction and alone it is weak I am not sure if it is because I use trim and stems or what so after I evaporate all the alcohol I add it to may ground bud and oil mix before cooking it.
How much do you use when doing this? Do you have to eat larger amounts than if you cooked with it? I've heard of people making smoothies too, but it always called for copious amounts of bud. Along with seeds and fresh fan leaves. So I think that recipe was more for the larger scale grower.Quote:
Originally Posted by ky1956
New question about temps. I got a metal over thermometer that stands up on the bottom of my crock pot. When on the high setting it is 300 degrees, low is 250, and the keep warm setting is 225. Can I trust this to be an accurate reading of the temperature of the oil, which would be in a cup? Also if this is accurate would I be better off keeping it on the low setting as I have been. Or putting it to either of the other settings. I get great results so far, but havent experimented any yet to tweak my recipe. Any advise about ideal temps would be awesome :)
Sorry I have been slow to respond. I use about 1/2 a gram of the best that I can afford. The buzz is different, more body than head, but smoking about 1hr+ after ingesting lets each technique compliment each other in a big way.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus2029
Use the driest weed you have or use the Master Wu technique to dry out the pot before eating it. I think it works best first thing in the morning because that is when my stomach has less in it.
just to let you guys know i think it helps TONS during my treatment regimen. no irritating the lungs and great effect.....portable but they can get leaky in hot conditions.
I HAVE to bump this thread. First of all, a HUGE thanks to flame and the hound family for experimenting so much with the capsule recipe.
I've been reading both threads on capsules for the past several days, just trying to gather information. Once I pick up a thermometer, I'm going to try it for myself.
What I've gathered up:
-put 1.5 teaspoons of coconut oil into a coffe mug
-put mug into crock pot, set on high
-grind up 1.5g of dro as fine as i can
-put bud into mug
-once temp reaches 225, switch to low
-let simmer for 2-3 hours, stirring every hour
I'm planning on letting it fully cool, because I believe posters in flame's thread said it has a play-doh like consistency, which to me seems a lot easier to deal with than pouring a messy oil into tiny capsules.
I also saw this on another site, but haven't tried it. If anyone wants to give it a go, let us know how it goes!
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1/8th oz herb. (I used shwag the first time)
4oz Extra Virgin Olive Oil.
32 Empty Gelatin Pill Sleeves. (Get them online, or just go to the store and buy some cheap ginko biloba pills.)
....that's it!
Now the fun part begins.
1. Put your herb in a blender for 2 minutes, till it is powder. Add a few tablespoons of water if it is super dry.
2. Move all herb into another container, use glass, it makes the process a lot easier. Then place in freezer overnight.
3. Remove from freezer, and in same container add your olive oil slowly! Add a little bit, then stir, a little bit more, stir, but stop when you have exceded saturation point (when it starts to look more like a soup than a mixture).
4. Place in microwave for two minutes. (covered! I made that mistake)
5. Remove from microwave, stir vigorously, to help break up any particulates or clumps.
6. Place back into microwave for another minute.
7. Remove, you want it to be thick...almost like a tar. If it is still runny...zap it again. But DO NOT LET IT SMOKE! If it smokes, it's burning your WEED)
8. Stir, till it is even. It should at this point be a dark amber, but NOT black!
9. Line up your empty pills, inside your filler. ( I bought 1000 empty gel caps online size 000 with a filler, for 15 dollars. If you do not have a filler, this is going to be harder. Look at step Z at the bottom of my post.)
10. Take a spoonfull of your mix, then place it over the filler. Next use a playing card(clean) to evenly smear over your empty pill containers, so they are all evenly filled. Repeat till all pills are filled, then place tops on pills.
11. Repeat process till all thc mix is used.
12. Place pills in freezer for One day.( you can do this for just a few hours if you want.)
13. Clean up....thats it!
14. The fun begins! Just like cannabutter, you have to be weary of your tollerance. I'm a medium heavy smoker, and 2 pills of this from schwag, kept me high for almost 9 hours.)
15. Take one pill your first time. It will take about an hour and a half to kick in. If you do not get your desired effect, take ONE more pill. But be sure not to drive anyplace. This will knock you on your ass. Seriously, the only time i have ever been this high, is when I smoked my amsterdam hash.
16. Place pills back in freezer, or in the fridge. I like the fridge, because it doesn't take as long to digest.
17. That's it! They will keep for a long time, I've started makin these all the time now, instead of actually smoking. I only smoke when I want to be high for an hour. These pills should be used for weekend use only people. They are very strong.
18. NOW GO HAVE SOME FUN!!! YOU WILL BE AS HIGH AS ALL HELL...BUT YOU WON'T HAVE COTTONMOUTH!
Z. For those of you whom do not have a pill filler, this is what you will have to do. Take your tar mix, and add about 1oz oil. Place in microwave for 20 seconds. Mix, till smooth and workable. It should be about as thin as the oil was to begin with. Then use an eye dropped to place into your empty pills. Place caps on, and put it in the freezer. That's it. It's really simple!)
Also, I live with parents who don't know of me smoking, and I'd like to keep it that way. My plan is to do this experiment in my basement bathroom at 10 or 11 at night. I'd really rather not stare at a crock pot until 3 or 4 in the morning, so I was wondering if I could do this in my room. I was thinking about putting it under my desk on my carpet, but I'm not sure how safe this is, and how hot it'll get. Any advice?
I'd be careful. Sometimes the smell is a lot stronger than you think it is. I know when I make mine it never really smells all that strong, but my roommate will tell me that I'm stinking up the whole house. You just don't notice it when you are standing right over it. Try to make you crockpot air tight. Mine has a large band that stretches over the top to keep it on tight, and I put a piece of duct tape over the air hole in the lid. Taping up the hole also keeps mine a little less than 10 degrees warmer. Good luck making yours.
I also have a question about long cook times. I always let mine go over night for a total of 10-12 hours. They turn out great, but I have heard oxidation occurs when you cook it for long periods exposed to fresh air. This causes the THC to break down and be less potent.
Does anyone have any factual evidence of this? I've looked but can't find anything. I heard about this on this forum under one of the glycerine tincture threads.
So I was thinking I could just cook it in a mason or bell jar with the lid on but not screwed tight so hot air can escape and fresh air can't get in.
I usually stir my mix every hour or so for the first 4 hours then go to sleep for the rest. Instead I could tighten the lid for a few seconds and shake it, or I could just skip stirring it up. I think not stirring would result in hot spots though and some herb could be damaged. Although if that was the case then letting it cook while I slept would be detrimental to it.
Any advise on these things would be greatly appreciated :) I'd love to try something new and suddenly have my caps super potent!