Opie Yutts I need your help friend

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Originally Posted by GrowMe

Cool..should i be trimming some of the bigass fan leaves?? They are literally sitting right on top of bud sites...

We've been flowering for 2 weeks now and don't see any buds..

THanks so much

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Uh, this is conflicting info. I'm assuming that you do have bud sites. Anytime you start seeing the little hairs coming out, that's a bud site. My AK-47 shows these within about 5 days of going to flower. Normal is about 1 or 2 weeks, sometimes a little more.

And never, ever remove fan leaves.
Unless:
- they are past yellow and turing brown
- they have mold or fungus
- they are shading a bud, and you cannot otherwise bend, pinch, move or tuck them out of the way.

The leaves are essential for sugar etc. production, and your plant will suffer if you remove them. If you do, cut them right where they come out of the main stalk so that there are no nubs sticking up to attract pests or disease, or shirtsleeves.

85 degrees is not a huge deal, as some people have grows above 90 and do OK. It is somewhat of a deal though. You need to keep the surface of your leaves below 80, and that means the air around them should be no more than 83. The best way to tell is to get a laser thermometer which actually measures the leaf temp. At 80 transpiration (and therefore growth) slows greatly or can even stop altogether.

PPM max?

cuttings - 50
seedlings - 300
young adults - 800
adults - 1400
middle of flowering - 1700
2nd to last week - 1400
last week - 50

This is based on the U.S., or 500 scale. These are maximum averages. Each variety is different. The best way to tell how much your plants can handle is to watch carefully as you increase gradually about 100 each feeding until you notice the first signs of stress, then back off a notch.

Hope that helps.

Yeah sorry that didn't make that much sense i suppose...

That was also a week ago and there are buds now...before i could tell where they would be..thats what i meant by "bud sites" ...they were just white hairs and now they are actually buds and have grown up through the fan leaves...I put the solution at 1680 PPMs today and when i added to the other solution it mustve went over 2000 cause my meter just started blinking...Just left it cause i had no room to put more water in..hopefully they don't get burned...they grow so damn fast man..this is awesome...

Thanks so much for all your help Opie.!!!!!!!

I'll get some pics up soon..Is there anything else i can do to help these ladies..Should i add some kind of mollasses or honey? Ive read about people doing that..

Any other tips are greatly appreciated..
Thanks so much

The biggest tip I can offer right now is get those PPMs down. 2000 could kill them, and I've never heard of anyone going that high. I would drain at least some and try again until you can get it to 1700, which might also be a little high.

Opie,

A little off the topic but my girl is about 25 days flower taking nice form. Lots of bud sites and trichs showing. When I smell the main cola it just doesnt smell like that odor marijane puts off in fact it doesnt even smell like weed for that matter. When I pinch the leaves then smell my fingers then it smells like weed.

Your thoughts

Peace

That sounds pretty normal for me and my usual crop of AK-47, and most other stuff I've grown. I'm not far behind you and I don't really smell them until I start getting my hands into them. That's the ladies trying to spread their love juice around in hopes of getting it inseminated. Sometimes even right up until harvest they don't smell much. Other times, watch out boy, get a carbon scrubber or six. You're what? About half way there? Yeah I'll bet in two or three weeks your going to start noticing them pretty well. The closer to harvest, the more trichomes, the more smell.

mmmm, love juice.

Well, I finally got a camera to post some pics of the Jack Herer Lady. 31 days flower.

Peace :stoned:

Nice healthy-lookin plants you got there GodBud. You are going to have some nice roasting ears there pretty quick. Mine are 26 days in. I sure wish all hundred or so of my buds were as big as yours.

Thanks Ope

Thats just one plant there. The cola is getting really thick. Shes been through a lot of stress with the power outage back in December for 5 days. Plus the root system never really took off but the root mass has really started to take off since I went to 12/12. I probably wont get the yield I got off my first grow which was NLX one plant netted a 1/4 pound. I will probably get a couple OZ off this one but I am hoping the smoke will be better quality. I am still dumfounded that she isnt reeking it almost smells more like a mildew smell but there are no signs of mildew at all. RH is at 50% like you said maybe here in a couple weeks it will start reeking. Maybe its just the strain. Have you ever heard of strains that dont put off a major oder? This strain calls for a 60 to 65 day flower time so I am over 1/2 way there. I will probably harvest around mid Feb I like to go for more the physcodelic high than the couch lock.

Peace

Really nice Godbud!!!!! looks awesome..About how tall is she? That looks like a huge ass cola.. Its pretty apparent that we have 2 different strains going..one is about a foot taller and has waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more buds and has a cola...the other one doesn't really have much of a cola at all and only has a few buds on each branch...However the bud on hte smaller one appears to be nicer...SUPER white hairs and lots of trichs...I'll get some pics up here soon..

Having some trouble with the heat...it gets around 91 in there..depending if we have to close up hte closet doors..if we have the doors closed for a long time it will get up to as high as 95...I know this is not good but at this point there really isn't much we can do...Sometimes i'll turn out a few of hte lights if its getting crazy hot..

We are trying to find a portable a/c unit but most of them need a window for the exhaust..(won't work) Any ideas?

There were many shaded areas on hte middle and bottom of the ladies so we added a few more bulbs..have 434 watts from CFLs right now...

Couple questions i have:

-Is the growth rate affected by the high levels of heat?

-Whats the hottest before they will die?

Thanks so much

GodBud,

It is perfectly normal for a strain to not be very smelly in flower. This is why I tell people who cannot afford, or don't want to build a carbon scrubber or ozone generator, to search seed banks or someplace, to find out what the varieties are that do not put off a lot off odor. There are some that are like that that still have high CB and THC content, and will still get you good and baked. Some others have a low percentage of THC, but if it's a choice between smoking an extra bowl or two and letting your neighbors know about your hobby, I'll take the first one. Beware though, the smoke smell is a whole different issue. People hundreds of yards downwind can smell what you're doing. Why no, I've never smoked on a golf course, why do you ask? Be patient, the reekage may still be a coming. If not, maybe she'll still be a worthwhile smoke.

GrowMe,

Depending on the strain, 95 is pretty high and it will most likely affect growth and yield. Sorry about that, I can understand what you're going through. That's one reason I'm on my third remodel, and much of my ducting is behind a wall. This is why I tell people plan on spending as much on venting as you do on lighting (at least for HID).

I too have thought of air conditioning, but that draws a lot of power usually, and it would be my last choice. I would much rather spend the money on another fan and some more ducting, or paying someone to cut a hole in your wall, or whatever it takes to properly vent the grow so there is no heat problem. Also be sure to use the straight, smooth, actual ducting material instead of the coiled dryer duct whenever possible. Believe it or not this makes a huge difference. It completely solved my heat issue in my veg section. I was so relieved when I fired it up and the temps stayed about 5 degrees cooler. Such a simple fix for an awful problem.

I have seen many portable AC units that don't require venting to the outdoors. I've even considered them, but I think this 3rd remodel will do the trick. I would put "Portable Air Conditioner" into your favorite search engine and see what comes up. I think they start at about $225.

Yes 95 is an issue and yes it will affect growth. Of course there are many plants that do just fine outdoors at 95, it happens all the time. I've even heard of people doing grows in 105 degrees and getting a pretty good yield. Facts are however, both cold and hot will slow down growth, sometimes dramatically. Remember your leaf temps, that's what's important. It would be best if you could get a laser thermometer. I paid $50 odd for mine, but I've seen them as low as $25 plus shipping if any. It is good to have one just to see all the hot spots on your canopy. I was surprised at the difference in mine. You want to keep the leaves under 80 for optimum growth. If you don't have a laser thermometer, this means that the air temp around the canopy should be no more than 83. Will plants produce weed at temps above 83? Of course. Will it be optimum yield? Of course not.

So, don't go above 105.

Growme:

She is about 3.5 ft tall. The cola is lookin really nice.

Ope,

I appreciate the input. I guess the jack herer is one of those strains that dont put out the dookie reek. I am pretty certain that its going to be good smoke, it just is starting to get caked with trichs and is looking really juicy. I wish I had a high end lens to take some close ups but believe me this bitch is squirtin out the love juice. I pinched a small leaf off and put it under the scope and it looks very nice. I then put the leaf between my cheek and gum and it had a very nice sweet taste. I was thinking about clippin some of the lower buds towards the bottom and curing them just to see a preliminary of what may be. Would this be okay or should I just leave er alone. I have been bending big fan leaves that are keeping light from buds towards the mid section which are starting to take off nicely. I aint cutting the fan leaves off just bending and tucking some I have had to actually snap but not cut off they are still attached and even seem to be trying to heal back. Such a resealiant plant.

Peace

a few pics..

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GM:

Buds are looking tasty. What strain is that?

Peace

Ope,

I have noticed just a few orange hairs starting to pop out on my girl towards the middle of the cola. What does that mean?

Peace

GodBud,

I don't think you would be a normal weed farmer if you didn't snip a little before she's ready. It won't hurt a thing, just don't do too much or she may get shocked, and you sure don't want that this far into flower. Remember though that the buds on the bottom part of the plant are less likely to be ready, so don't use that as a gage for the whole thing. The orange hairs are nothing to worry about. That happens on mine too. It's actually a good thing since it indicates that her time is growing near.

GrowMe,

Looking good, getting closer.

Both of you,

Aint it exciting?

Not sure what strain, they're badseed..But i think one of them is from my buddies ladies..He grew Elvis..? whatever they are they stink so good and are getting covered in trichs..

Happy smoking :thumbsup:

Opie:

Hell yes it is!!!! Thanks soooooo much for all the advice..

You were right about the PPM levels..they got burned..Sucks cause i finally got a ppm meter and first thing i do is burn them.. :wtf:

Would that affect the speed they are growing or size of buds? they seem to have slowed down a great deal this week.. Any thoughts??

Im getting really antsy for these broads to finish..HOw will i know when they are done? they are 6 weeks into flower in a few days here and am wondering if i have 2 weeks left or 4...I know some strains take longer than others and since i'm not sure what mine are what to do? thanks in advance :weedpoke:

Nutrient burn will slow them down. Maybe by one day, maybe by 2 weeks.

You will know when they are done by looking through your 30x magnifying glass or 60x pocket microscope. The trichomes start clear, then go to cloudy, then amber. Most people seem to like a little amber in the harvest. The more amber, the more you will be stuck to the couch. The more clear, the more you will be able to think and work while you're high. Sup to you. You can check seed sellers to see when your plants normally are ready.

Oh yeah, I go for about 10% amber, but if I am fortunate enough to have weed from several harvests I like to have some more clear and some more amber. Different weed for different times of day, or different situations. Once you've done the same strain a few times you won't have to check as much, because you'll know how you like it, and know what duration of flowering makes what kind of high.

Opie- You did a hell of a job here man. Way to pour your info out to these guys. Very nice.

RESPECT.

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Originally Posted by The White Snoop

Opie- You did a hell of a job here man. Way to pour your info out to these guys. Very nice.

RESPECT.

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Thanks a lot. It's nice to hear words of appreciation from time to time so you know your time isn't going to waste. Not saying others aren't thankful.

My pleasure.

YEAH HATS OFF TO OPIE GIVE THAT MAN A CCCCCCGAR :thumbsup:

You are appreciated my brother!

Well, I am on day 40 flower. The orange hairs are starting become more and more ech passing day. This particular strain calls for a 51 to 65 day harvest window thats from two different sources so I just put the low end to the high end up. Honestly the buds look like I could chop um. I looked at the trichs last night they were all clear. Should I wait until I at least see a little amber in the trichs?

Peace

Each to his own. I can't tell you what you should do, but I can tell you what I do, and what others have reported. Like I said above I go for about 10% amber most of the time. That's an all round "normal/common" kinda high. Seems most people want a little amber, which ends up leaving 80% cloudy and another 10% clear. Ideally, I will already have a bunch of "normal" laying around, so one harvest I may go with something like 95% cloudy, then the next 35% amber.

Then I can get up for work and have a bowl of cereal with my bowl of 95% clear. (Actually, usually while showering.) That way I'm fairly quick on the brain for my employers or myself, but I still get to have a pleasant buzz going. Then during lunch I'll have some more clear since food usually makes me sleepy, and often so does the 35% amber. After work I'm not giving my all to my employer, so I won't feel guilty if I'm a little like, "duh..?" So I'll stand around smoking with my buddies and handing out the "normal", unless someone wants a little "duh" for sleeping or something. If I've got crap to do at home that night, that requires some semblance of intelligence, I'll stick with the clear throughout the evening. Otherwise I'm all about the amber baby, especially just before bed time, where I'll sleep soundly for the duration of my rest period, unless the dogs feel it's important I know there's a squirrel outside.

That's ideally. Usually I end up slacking off after a good harvest and stop preparing for the lean times, and end up with one choice.

Oh yeah, I have not read anything scientific on the matter, but everyone says that once amber starts setting in, the THC starts to degrade. So how's it get you more couch locked? Hmmm, must be the other CBs or something. Anyone?

Why did that hit taste like fish just now?

Oh yeah, I wanted to suggest that you could harvest some a week or so earlier than the rest, that way you could have 2 different kinds of high to choose from, and study which one you like best for next harvest. Believe it or not some people do a kind of perpetual harvest, where the plant is always in flower and always (occasionally) being harvested. I don't know how long this can go on, and I don't know if that gets you more weed in the long run, but I would love someone to do a side by side and see what happens over a year of budding or something.

Like Weedhound however, I believe cutting anything off can stress a plant, and therefore temporarily slow down growth or bud production if in flowering. Until you know for sure how hardy your variety is, you may want to think twice about harvesting large amounts before the actual harvest.

No news yet on the fish.

Oops. 2nd paragraph of 3 posts above I meant 95% cloudy before and during work, not clear. Too late to edit.

I think I will probably just wait till about day 50 then start my flush and cut er down around day 55. That puts me within the window of what the research shows on this strain. I did cut a small bud its been drying for 3 days now and is starting to give off that sweet hydro smell, has a nice stench to it. :thumbsup: I can tell its going to be some good smoke. :thumbsup:

Opie your a good man sir!

Keep yer eyes on this thread as I am going to post pics of the buds once harvested.

Also Growme I know your scopin this thread you do the same!

Peace Fellas
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Hello everybody! Looks like i missed sum stuff these last few days..Awesome info, a lot of my questions were answered..

And def. a HUGE thanks to you Opie..You basically grew this for me from germination.. :thumbsup:

Tons of respect to you, not only for you intelligence but your willingness to help other stoners out..

Day 42 of flower here!!!!!!!!!!!! They look and smell terrific..

I'll get some pics up here soon..Gotta go eat!

Your welcome again guys, and that's cool we're all going to be harvesting about the same time. I got a couple weeks though. Looking forward to everyones' photos and numbers.

I believe we have a few more weeks as well...But as you can see by my mood i'm not very happy...I seriously burned the fuck outta them...The nugs seem the same size or maybe a tad bigger as they did a week ago..

Cant believe i did this to them..Almost every fan leaf is brown or broke off..

How the F*CK you gonna go out and buy a ppm meter just to burn them right away...I feel like a dipshit..

Anyway this sucks cause i went from being pumped about harvest to dissapointed and wanting to shut it down now..We have 4 fans running just to keep it at 90 degrees..Its loud and hot as fuck in here and am tired of trying to keep it from the roomates..I also have to keep

What to do?????? I'll get some pics up so you can see how bad i torched the poor girls...

I just don't want to keep em cooking for another 2 or 3 weeks if they aren't going to get much bigger...i'm going to go buy a magnifying glass today..do i look at the crystals on hte nugs? Don't worry about hte ones on the leaves i guess????

ANyway again thansk so much opie..your ladies look amazing in your lssst thread..hopefully one day i can grow like you...@!!!!!!!!!!!

It was just too small of a space and the 2 gallon buckets BLOW@!!!!

I gotta fill them shits up everyday.. That doesn't get old either :S4:

Sorry had to vent a little! Be back soon with pics..i took some last night but cant seem to get any decent ones to post..

Let me just add the nugs look and smell amazing...however the plant as a whole doesn't look great..like i said the fan leaves are fried...

just sounds like i contradicted myself from yesterday to today..just wanted to clear up any confusion i may have caused..

LSTTT rather...i'm retarded

GM

I know any words of wisdom dont rectify your current situation but:

Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment

Your still gonna get some good hits off your girls so dont look at it as a waste. Your next grow will be that much better.

Today I am doing a res change and going to just distilled water and Florakleen. I will do this for 1 week let the plant start using up its stored nutes and hopefully diminish the nitrogen build up in the plant. I will cut er throat next tuesday and start the drying process then to cure.

This brings me to my final question to you OPE:

Would you care to indulge in your personal method from the time you cut your girls to the time you load a bowl. Drying and cure methods that you personally use. Thanks Bro you da man!

Peace

Sorry Ope I lied. One final question!

On this last week would it be okay to cut all the large fan leaves off to where its just exposed buds. My thinking is that those large fan leaves just have excess nutes and or chloraphyll that you dont want in the plant anyway also all the buds towards the bottom could get 1 last week of premium light. Would this hurt the plant in anyway? I mean she only has 7 days or so, so I dont see it even having time to freak out or really be affected adversely.

Your expert thoughts are appreciated!

Peace

GrowMe,

Sorry to hear about the troubles. You've been through a lot in your hydro adventures. Depending on how fried they are, I would probably not just chop them down. Sometimes plants look pretty bad toward the end of flowering anyway. One of mine is almost completely yellow and brown, except for the green buds. Not sure why that is when the other plants from the same mom, in the same res are just fine. On the other hand, if there is resin they will get you high, even if you decide to harvest early. It will just be a more clear kind of high. Some pictures would help me decide what I would do, but I would be tempted to flush a couple times, let em eat a flushing agent for a day, then feed them some more and see if they perk up any.

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Originally Posted by GodBud

...question to you OPE:

Would you care to indulge in your personal method from the time you cut your girls to the time you load a bowl. Drying and cure methods that you personally use. Thanks Bro you da man!

Peace

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1) I untangle them from the screen. While I'm doing so I cut off most of the trim, separating the trim that has resin on it from the rest.
2) It can go one of two ways for me here, both seem to give me about the same results. Sometimes I'll hang them upside down on a string or wire shelf in a closet. Otherwise I lay them on some screen, or anything that will let air flow all around them. Some people say to hang them upside down so the resin/THC/CB flows into the buds better. Chyaa, yeah right. I've sure never noticed a difference either way. Little popcorn-style buds I spread over a screen. If I want to try some as soon as possible, I pinch a few little tiny pieces smaller than a dime, and set them somewhere drafty, and they're dry in 1 day. I also try to keep the buds cool and dark, since both heat and light are reported to be bad for THC.
3) They are dry when the stem cracks when bent, usually a little under a week. That's when I do the final manicuring.
4) If I have a good amount of weed around I'll cure my harvest, otherwise I toss it in some paper bags. Just incase they still have a little moisture it's best to keep them out of plastic bags, or anything that eliminates air flow. There's a bunch written about curing your harvest, so I'll let you look that up.
5) Ultimately I'll have so much weed that I feel it might be advantageous to store some in the freezer. You can keep weed for many years in the freezer, and almost indefinitely if you store it in a vacuum. Believe it or not, it comes out nearly as fresh as the day you put it in if you use a vacuum sealer. I love mine for other reasons too, but it has an attachment that hooks onto a wide-mouth mason jar, sucks out all the air, and seals the lid. If you don't have jars you could also just seal the weed in the normal plastic sealing stuff, but some people say that gives the weed a plasticy taste. Some people also say that about storing weed in Tupperware containers. I haven't really noticed it much, but I use jars just incase.
6) To get it into my bowl, I tear off a little chunk and stick it in. Sometimes I don't put it in my bowl however, and I grind up a handful in my coffee/herb grinder. Then I put little pinches in the "whip" and suck up the vapors instead of smoke.

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Originally Posted by GodBud

Sorry Ope I lied. One final question!

On this last week would it be okay to cut all the large fan leaves off to where its just exposed buds. My thinking is that those large fan leaves just have excess nutes and or chloraphyll that you dont want in the plant anyway also all the buds towards the bottom could get 1 last week of premium light. Would this hurt the plant in anyway? I mean she only has 7 days or so, so I dont see it even having time to freak out or really be affected adversely.

Your expert thoughts are appreciated!

Peace

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I never cut leaves off unless it is a last resort to keep them from shading a good bud. Your plants will be using the leaves up until harvest. You mentioned flushing, which causes them to have no nutrients. They survive the week or so of the flush because they can eat the nutrition stored in the leaves. Take away those nutrients as well, and there's no food to feed the buds, and they will probably start turning yellow and dying.

Most Appreciated B :thumbsup:

Well fellas here is a photo of my girl day 47 flower B4 I cut er down. Does she look ready Ope. I looked at the trichs mostly clear with some cloudy ones no ambers but the orange hairs are really starting to cover her all over. It might be a day or 3 to early but I think shes about ready

Peace :stoned:

That's one heck of a bud. If there are no amber trichs yet, I would suggest she's not quite ready. That is unless you are going for that type of buzz that allows you to get your ass of the couch, and get a little thinking or work done. If so, now's the time.