Look at the first pic, right in the middle, right where the 3rd set of branches meets the main stem. They look like little heads of lettuce... Are you sure its not a male?
Its driving me crazy. They're on a few more spots today.
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Look at the first pic, right in the middle, right where the 3rd set of branches meets the main stem. They look like little heads of lettuce... Are you sure its not a male?
Its driving me crazy. They're on a few more spots today.
oh ok i see what ur talking about it's a lil fuzzy/blured but if those lil balls have stems u know like a trich has a stem with a ball on the end of it then yes it's a male fems are like 1 set per node males will start growing all over the place on the stem in the node all over and they will cluster up too so if u start to see the stems u need to cut as when the stem grows and the lil ball droops over then it's about to or already have dropped it's pollen i like to chop when i start to see the stem and the balls start to cluster
on a female, what comes first. The calyx or the pistil?
Those little hairs are a good sign it's female.
I don't know, maybe these will help, maybe you've seen them.
First one is male, 2nd female. I thought yours looked more like the 2nd one.
I think I've seen those before but thank you. Truth is, I've been looking for a reason to get rid of one and make some more room for the rest. So I removed it. I really felt like the other four need the space.
Aside from the big plant, supposedly mango kush, the others have had a really slow 2 weeks. Not much has changed, gained a little height, a little new growth, but not much more.... Or less for that matter... They still look healthy and are not showing any other signs of stress. I'll get a few pics tomorrow. Thank you all for the help. Keep it coming.
Today is day 14 for the clones and still no roots. The tips are yellowing now. I'm still feeding them RO water with some B1. Do I need to change or add anything?
did u use cloning gel?? it's funny i cut a clone about a week ago and i had a bucket of water/nutes i pumped out of the res and the ppm's were at 1300 and i just stuck it in the bucket without doing anything to it as i did'nt cut it for the clone but because my mother was growing so much i was running out of room so i cut it and stuck it into the bucket and after about a week theres new growth so im very suprized at this as it's been sittin in 1300ppm nute water mix and theres no burning or anything and it's growing lmao and it goes against everything iv'e read so who knows...
yeah I used roottech (the technaflora product), also soaked the Rapid Rooter plugs in Root 66 and some B1. I've been spraying them with really weak B1 for the last 2 weeks. I'm pretty sure I did everything right when I cut them. I cut them all at once, put them in water right away, 45 degree angle, a couple 1/4" slits down the side, into the gel, into the plug. The first dome I had didn't seal very well and dried out really quickly, this dried the plugs out pretty quick too. The humidity was not where it should have been. I picked up the new dome and the heating mat on day 7 and have been using it ever since. They look really healthy aside form the yellow leaf tips and NO ROOTS! What's making them yellow?
might be lacking nitrogen lets see some pics it's a shame im the only 1 with input on ur thread lol
its all good dude. I'd rather have 1 person give me great advice than have to weed out the crap that some people get on their threads...
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I'll get some pics up in a minute.
sorry battery is dead on the camera, I'll get them up soon.
I'm going to the hydro store today and I'm doing some planning ahead. The next grow I do, I think i'm going to scrog 2 of the 3 clones that I got from the biggest plant. Top them a couple times, maybe a fim or 2? point is... I'm planning on seeing roots in the next 10 days so I guess I need to get some things together so I can make sure my #2 space is ready to veg them.
I'm growing the 3rd clone out as a mother. I'm guessing this is the only way to keep this plant around right? I'm really impressed with its growth. Its flowering really nice, its SUPER bushy, stocky stem and side shoots. There are 6 big side branches on each of the 4 sides and the tops are all about equal size right now.
...and its my 1st plant, kinda special...you know?
A couple ?'s...
Can I use CFL's to veg the clones and mothers?
Is there a difference in quality of the mother plant if I decide to put her in soil?
Is there anything wrong with putting the 2 plants that I want to scrog in 1 large (maybe 18"wide x 24"long x 12"deep) container filled with hydroton?
I think the lights have been too close to the clones, they've been growing taller, but...no roots. I've had the lights about 1/2" from the top of the dome this whole time and just now read that the light is supposed to be a foot away.
here are a few pics. What do you think?
i see u have been spraying them down it's ok to do that but with the light that close u should only do it at lights out as the water can create a magnifying effect on the leafs what kindda light r u using now on them??if it's cfl's then yes u can have them that close but if it's hps or mh then no u need to raise it to about a ft as it's to much for them now and yes u can use cfl's on ur mother and veg as thats what im using 4 150's set up 2 per socket with the y spliter and there loving it so yes u can use just the cfl's and keep it at 18/6
Here are some pics of the plant that I cloned and will eventually be scrogging. The flowers are a little deceiving in some spots. They look like male preflowers and then they open up and spit out a couple hairs. This is by far the best looking plant.
One more...
thats alot of growth whats ur light setup again i think u will be needing more light soon as theres alot of growth there and ur gonna need to get light to the bottom but there lookin nice
single 400w hps and lots of mylar
So, it took 15 days for the clones to root, but I'm kinda worried about the yellow leaf tips. What do I need to change? Can I leave them in the dome and tray for a few more days? Do they need ventilation yet? Also, now that they're rooted, can I move the light closer or will that make the leaves yellow(er)? At what point do I drop the humidity?
whats ur humidity at now?? i just keep mine at around 40 to 50 % yea u can take the dome off now and put a lil air on them and as far as the yellowing as long as it's not getting worse u should be fine is it still just yellow or does it look burnt??
Yellowing of leaves in clones means roots are in business and they need some food...just a bit.
yea i was gonna say maybe there starting to use the nitrogen in the leafs
Once they get 2 or 3 inches of roots they can handle a slight bit of nutrients.
thanks a lot for the responses. I took the dome off last night, started watering the RR plugs a little more often and they look good. Most of them have 1/4" roots coming out of the sides of the plug.
I have a few questions...
When should I put them into the hydroton?
How strong on the nutes?
I'm going to have to build a second box and drip system so I can veg these while the others flower. How important are light leaks during veg? should I fim them or top them or a combo of the two (if so, how?)
I plan on scrogging next grow, is it ok to put the two or three plants in 1 large container with the hydroton?
Hey BTW good job, my last one wasn't my best, just keep attention to the critical details and the rest falls into place. Don't get lazy....that kinda got me after a few grows amd kicked me in the ass.
Day 24 of flowering... think its time for full stregnth nutes now?
Plants look great btw, they're stretching pretty fast, about 3/4" - 1" a day for the biggest one, does this eventually stop?. I lowered the light 7-8" from the highest plants' top, added a fan that blows right over the top of the plants and over the glass on the light. Still a nice 74-79 degrees with the light on. Nute change tomorrow, I'll get a few pics up asap.
Killed a clone yesterday...16 hours at work kept me away, the tray dried up and dried a few of the RR plugs out. I watered 2 of the droopy ones and they seem to be doing fine, the other plugs held their moisture. Also getting some soil for the clone I plan on mothering... or would it be better to re-veg the plant I have in flower right now?
I also have a couple ?'s... 2 posts above this one... Thanks!!!! You guys are the best!!!
when they have a good root system,just like u would from seed,nutes too,light leaks on veg what do u mean by this as long as there 18/6 or 24/0 u won't have a problem in veg or are u gonna have them both in the same room and ur gonna make a lil closed in box for them?and u can't top and fimm only 1 or the other i would fimm goto faq or type in fimm u should find a tut on itQuote:
Originally Posted by TMusic
You put them in hydroton when they are hardened, and have about 3 inches of good root mass. If they are not hardened, you can put a baggie over each on for a humidity dome, and harden individually, but that's the more dangerous and definitely more difficult way. Both work.
About 1/4 to 1/3 strength nutes at first, every week or two increase until full strength.
A few light leaks are OK. It doesn't have to be 100% light proof, but it should be mostly. I'd say 95% light proof is fine.
I would guess several plants in one big container of hydroton should be fine, just give them their space. I did it in dirt once and everything was fine.
It's been my experience that FIMing and topping produce about the same yield, and FIMing is harder to do properly. FIM is a kind of topping, but the placement and shape of the cut is critical. If you do it right you should get 3-8 new branches instead of 2 or 3 with topping. The more branches, the smaller each cola per branch. It kind of evens out in the end. Now... I'm ready for the insults and disagreements.
the 2 i fimmed my last grow 1 had 25 tops and yielded5oz dry and the other had 18 and had 4oz dry:thumbsup:they were hugeQuote:
Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
Here are a couple pics from yesterday. The close up is the top of the biggest plant and as you can see in the full shot, its taking over the "world". It has twice the girth as the next biggest plant and makes the 2 plants in the front look like midgets. I have a feeling that the two small plants needed more veg time to reach their potential. The buds they're producing are really small but they look like incredible. I'm hoping that they're just long bloomers and will eventually produce. If not, I'll add most of it the the hash fund.
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As for the clones. Instead of spending the money on the supplies for a new hydro setup, I decided to put them all in soil. I plan on vegging them for a while and keeping the best 2 or 3 for mothers. I'm going to be moving in the beginning of next year and I really don't want to get stuck trying to move in the middle flowering the next crop. This will also give me the much needed experience of a soil grow and the chance to experiment a little with topping, fimming, etc.
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Looks pretty good. Careful though, some babies leaf tips look stressed. Just don't over fert and watch PH, everything should be good. Looks like your going to have a bunch of real nice buds in a few weeks. Congrats!
^^^Thanks
I took a really close look at the budsites today, the tips on some of the hairs are turning darker. I can't tell if its orange or brown. Its on about 10% of them and they're on the side closest to the filament of the 400w hps. Is this ok?
Yes that's completely normal. It just means its getting closer to harvest time, and more will continue to turn brown. Some people gauge when to harvest by the hairs, but this is not reliable. The prefered method of course is to check trichomes.
cool...since it was only on the side closest to the light, I was afraid I was burning them. I've had the light about 8 or 9 inches from the top of the biggest plant for the last 2 weeks.
Some people say that if you can hold your hand by the plant tops then it is not too hot. I disagree with this due to personal experience. I like to hang a thermometer over the light, at the top of the plants so it's directly under the light. It needs to be under 100 or you could have problems. Under 95 to be safe.
I was assuming those hairs were turning first because they are the closest to the brightest area in the grow. This happens all the time, but if it feels pretty hot under the light, I would check like I described. 8 or 9 inches sounds fine for 400 watts, but it's close to the borderline.
I've done that a few times as well and it never gets above 92 without a cover over the thermometer. There were some hairs turning darker on the lower buds of those same branches. By the time the light went off yesterday, some of the buds on the other side of the plant had started as well. The second largest plant, which looks a lot different than the others, has a few purple hairs or really small leaf tips on the top and the larger leaves around it. The other two are really short but are producing some super stinky and resinous buds.
Mmm mmm, it all sounds too good to be true.