Please help! Droopy Plants

I'm still not sure what I did that changed it but they are looking much better now. I've given them about twice the nutes as before and they seem to be drinking and eating...I'll post a pic to for comparison but I'm almost wondering if they were just out of food considering...a few that were very dark green have gone back to a much nicer forest color and aside from a few nute burn spots the whole lot is looking much better

It's possible they were getting a ton of iron when I was doing the res flushes after I gave them too much food because I wasn't filtering it I'm not sure why this most recent one did the same thing though cause I was filtering that water but stranger things have happened ;-) I'll keep an eye on it WH...I'm using maxigrow which has the trace elements as well cause my water is at 200ppm to start I'm running it through the britta before I make changes...the ph has settled in to a very slow climb which I've been told by a few seems to be the norm

Thank you for the info on grow rates JW it's a huge help to have a reference as far as I can tell they are growing almost 1/2 an inch a day which is right in line with what you were saying....

I've got a few more things to check tonight but I'm startin to relax a bit as things have calmed down

Now I'm thinking about topping one of the plants cause it's considerably taller than the others if it slows down growth for a couple days that may be just the thing to get the others caught up and since it grows faster maybe 2 main shoots will slow it down to be with the others...I am a bit nervous about takin scissors to the tree but hopefully with some more reading I'll be ready

I think I got a day or 2 before the top will be ready for cutting I've read only having 2 nodes is best for the size of the clone, whatcha think?

Sorry bout the crappy pic again I'll get a better one if I can figure out what's wrong with my digicam I tried to take a pic when the light was on and it messed it up...the screen is all jumbled now hopefully it'll fix itself

Not too much iron......too little. That's why mine shaped up when I put in new nutes.....I had had them on a lighter nute solution than my last grow (think it was 700ppm instead of 1000ppm) so when I put in more nutes (as you did) they got better. Still just a guess on my part.....one of my many advuntures in messing up my plants :)

Well throughout the day today I checked in a couple times and noticed they were really looking perky but by the very end just before the end of the day most of the smaller ones were looking a bit droopy again...not sure what's causin this yet but the biggest one seems to be loving the light...maybe the others just were pooped from growing by the end and were just ready for sunset

they definately look a lot fuller though over the last couple days I took another pic to post as comparison atleast this one had a flash so it won't look like a dungeon ;)

Still on the fence about topping the tallest one but I'll have to make my decision either tomorrow or the next day as far as the others I'm just hoping they keep growing...

I'm actually tempted to start flower in the next few days and just see how they do but some are still really small so I don't want them to finish flowering at like a foot tall haha I'm tryin to be patient whatcha think about just putting them into flower and seeing how they turn out?

In the pic you can see some signs of nute burn, possibly some heat stress, & a touch of droopiness still not sure what's the root cause of that but I guess if they only droop a little bit toward the last hour or 2 of the day it's not the biggest deal I'm considering this run totally experimental at this point so any yield will make me happy of course the more the better heh

I was checking the roots today and noticed a lot of them are starting to get tangled and wrapped around the spray tubes...I'm not sure if it's just best to let them grow around as they need to or should I take some time and get them all seperate? I'm thinking about goin to flower in a couple days

I'm gonna top the tallest plant so they are all about the same height and just see how it goes from there I'm hoping I can top it and keep as a clone for more if it turns out to be a monther...I figure the least it will be is cloning practice I'll update later tonight with the results

PS the Roots are looking a bit offwhite now compared to the bright white they were before is this normal as they get older or should I treat them to help avoid the RR

At first the clones leaves were droopy and fell right down flat but it seems that it only took from this afternoon till now and the clone looks like it's perked up again...I'm not positive but I'd assume if the leaves have picked themselves back up and fanned back out so that's gotta be a good sign the rest of the plants are actually looking quite crowded in the tub so I'm thinking once I see the first sign of growth on the plant I topped I'll be putting it to 12/12 the next night...I'm hoping for atleast half to be female but 5 would be ideal and should clear up some room for the leaves to spread out since it's got 9 spots putting in 5 would make an X and should let the grow much more without encroaching

I'm starting to notice a mild odor from them each time I enter the room so along with sealing light leaks those are the next 2 items on the agenda

Thanks for everyones help...without it I'm sure they woulda already died but now I'm even starting to think they might make it to smoke WOOHOO!

ASD, I think it's time you invest in a ppm/tds meter. You need some sort of guide here....your plants are definitely reflecting the guesswork you are using. They're better, then they are worse, then better. Some of what you are seeing are reflections of the ph probs but others aren't and you arent going to know without measuring the different things you are doing; otherwise all your future grows will be the same frustrating experience any time you have a problem. :thumbsup:

Everything seems to be going along just as sluggish as always haha...almost through week 6 and most are around 8 inches tall the one in the bottom middle of the pic is the runt of the litter

they are frustratingly small at this age but 2 good things is the topping that I did on the giant has rendered 4 grow shoots and the clone seems to be rooting as it's still looking pretty healthy it's been 3 days so hopefully I'll see some new growth soon

I think I see a few preflowers 1 looked like a girl and 2 looked like males but the rest I had no idea so maybe it'll go 50/50 for me either way it's time to put them to 12/12 and take notes for take 2

Hi ASD,

Thanks for the kind words on my other thread. The smoke has turned out to be excellent.....more kick ass than I have grown so far.

Are these guys drooping like that just at night or also during the day? Can you get a photo of them during the light period? The obviously have grown tons!

day 2 of flower...I was debating on goin 24h dark cycle to jump them but I settled on 16 hours I think that's enough of a shock considering they've been in 18/6

The preflowers seem to have grown enough to notice anyway so hopefully this next 12 night will give me enough to tell the sexes for sure on some once I confirm a male I'll remove it but I'd say I have a week before I'll get em all

The ph has been relatively pretty stable....very slow climb if any I'm hoping to have a testor tomorrow so I'll be able to keep a better control over ppm I can figure out water type and nute level way better

They are progressing much better in my opinion and if they stay on this course I'm hoping they will top out max 3ft once I know the sexes I may choose to go 14/10 to help give the mothers more time to grow

I'm not sure but I may take crappy under canopy growth and create clones...I think I mentioned somewhere back it's 5 cindy99 and 4 indica (very fleshy leaves) 3 cindy and 2 indica would be ideal

Here's 2 pics one of all and one over the 4 shooter and to answer yer question WH it was a 2 1/2 hours into darkness the previous pics were in the middle at about 4 hours into dark...They seem to stand up much more during the day I can't seem to take a picture without it messing up the camera it gets all these lines some of the earlier pics I took were like that I'll try to get one without that affect

Commitment! Good for you! They do look much better and have grown but I swear there is something odd about them....everyone has their big huge lists of stuff that they worry about but mine''s rather small.....Ph level, nutrient level, water temp (and I'm fairly casual about that and room temp---10 degrees or so from center wont' worry me) and then the lighting....too close or too far? I swear it has to be your nutrients.

When I used to struggle (horribly) with soil my plants would do that at night....lower their leaves and rest them then bounce back up in the morning.