Report: Gulf States Prepared to Back U.S. Military Strike on Iran
The only way United States could beat Iran would be with nuclear weapons.
Iraq: population - 28.8 million, area - 169,234 sq mi
Iran: population - 70 million, area - 636,372 sq mi
Iran has 2.5 more people and is almost 4 times larger in size.
Iran's military would last much longer than Iraq's, but obviously America's army would beat Iran's military. And then you have to deal with insurgency, which is obviously the hardest part. I can't believe they are even considering this, seeing as they can't even control Iraq.
Please George Bush don't start WWIII
Report: Gulf States Prepared to Back U.S. Military Strike on Iran
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Originally Posted by Bong30
Think what you want.....
you are the one...welcome to my class...Blah blah
Just keep talking shit.....ill keep telling you to fuck off.
like yin and yang........
Lets start by debating how radical Islam treats women.
Are you raped if not witnessed by 4 other men?
Why must they wear full berkas?
what is a Twelver, and why did the Iatolla outlaw it?
Are you allowed to switch from Islam to christianity, In a Islamic state?
PIck any topic to debate, Or just stand around telling us how smart you are........
Bring it, assclown......
Thanks for joining our discussion,
Why is it our responsibility to impose our beliefs upon them? There are significant injustices around the world that we choose to ignore all of the time. What you're having a hard time understanding is that we don't have a case for being over there. Iran is not a threat to us if we pull out. You're blinded by false issues that are only put forth as a reason beside OIL for us to be there. It's time to use those critical thinking skills we learned in school.
Recall that the Americans fought for their own liberty against a oppressive government.
Your friend,
Patrick Henry
Report: Gulf States Prepared to Back U.S. Military Strike on Iran
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
The reason why the U.S. supports Israel is pretty obvious if you take a look at middle east philosophys. OOPS, Sorry! The other arab countries really, really don't like Israel. O.K.?:
Why do the interests of Israel concern us more than any other country? Just because they're despised within the region? It would appear to me that Israel is more than capable of protecting itself considering it's past war history. Our unwavering and biased support of Israel only adds to the animosity many in the region harvest toward us.
Report: Gulf States Prepared to Back U.S. Military Strike on Iran
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Originally Posted by PatrickHenry
Why do the interests of Israel concern us more than any other country?
Not more than any other country. Good example for that region would be Kuwait.
Just because they're despised within the region? It would appear to me that Israel is more than capable of protecting itself considering it's past war history. Our unwavering and biased support of Israel only adds to the animosity many in the region harvest toward us.
There are times when you have to do the unpopular thing for the greater good. France, Poland, etc.....should have been able to take care of their own shit during WW2 but guess who had to save the day. Ain't allies a bitch?
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
Report: Gulf States Prepared to Back U.S. Military Strike on Iran
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
There are times when you have to do the unpopular thing for the greater good. France, Poland, etc.....should have been able to take care of their own shit during WW2 but guess who had to save the day. Ain't allies a bitch?
What is the greater good you're trying to achieve? Peace? Peace will come when we stop getting ourselves involved in the middle east.
Meanwhile, we didn't protect Poland, and in fact, in the span of the country's past they just recently broke away from the grip of communism with the help of the past Pope. Even the Poles are now protesting our war in Iraq. Do you consider Stalin the savior for Poland? Also, look up how large the actual resistance was in France during WWII. We didn't protect them until we were bombed ourselves, get off your high horse.
Report: Gulf States Prepared to Back U.S. Military Strike on Iran
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Originally Posted by PatrickHenry
What is the greater good you're trying to achieve? Peace? Peace will come when we stop getting ourselves involved in the middle east.
If I recall there were some daisy pushers stating the same thing during WW2 concerning Europe.:rolleyes:
Meanwhile, we didn't protect Poland, and in fact, in the span of the country's past they just recently broke away from the grip of communism with the help of the past Pope.
LOL.....Can't even give R. Reagan his due.
Even the Poles are now protesting our war in Iraq. Do you consider Stalin the savior for Poland? Also, look up how large the actual resistance was in France during WWII.
LMAO! The French handed over Jews to the Nazis! If it weren't for the U.S., Europe would be a united Germany.
We didn't protect them until we were bombed ourselves, get off your high horse.
It's true that we had to be bombed first.......should be a clue to the present. Half the country didn't want shit to do with Europe until Pearl Harbor. 9-11 SHOULD have been enough of a bitch slap but I guess since it wasn't some peoples home town.....what the hell.
High horse?? Better than riding on a Jackass.
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
Report: Gulf States Prepared to Back U.S. Military Strike on Iran
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
It's true that we had to be bombed first.......should be a clue to the present. Half the country didn't want shit to do with Europe until Pearl Harbor. 9-11 SHOULD have been enough of a bitch slap but I guess since it wasn't some peoples home town.....what the hell.
High horse?? Better than riding on a
Jackass.
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
So you're wrong: We didn't protect the Poles or the French. We merely helped them when our self-interests were at risk. Just as we're "helping" Iraq because we haven an interest in their oil, and the oil of the region.
Stop believe all of the bullshit the right-wing is feeding you about protecting our freedom from the freedom haters.
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Originally Posted by PatrickHenry
So you're wrong: We didn't protect the Poles or the French. We merely helped them when our self-interests were at risk.
LOL...where did I state that we protected the Poles or the French? I said that they should have been able to take care of their own buisiness but it was eventually the big bad U.S. to the rescue again. We probably SHOULD have gotten involved at an earlier date BUT due to the tree huggers of the time that was pretty much ruled out. Since it wasn't on our shores at the time they had the "who gives a fuck" attitude. Kind of like today.
Just as we're "helping" Iraq because we haven an interest in their oil, and the oil of the region.
O.K., oil is the ONLY reason why we're there.:rolleyes:
Stop believe all of the bullshit the right-wing is feeding you about protecting our freedom from the freedom haters.
LOL.......look up 9-11 once. Didn't teach that in your college either? I would seriously be looking for a rebate dude!
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
P.S./ If you get a rebate I think it would only be fair if you were to foreward the check to me.......since I am your new mentor. Don't worry young Jedi, you'll catch up.:D
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
LOL...where did I state that we protected the Poles or the French?
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
France, Poland, etc.....should have been able to take care of their own shit during WW2 but guess who had to save the day.
We really saved the Poles by turning them over to communist Stalin huh? Wake up and realize America only does what is in its own interest. You're essentially calling me a lefty tree hugger because I oppose something that is not in the United State's interests.
I am a registered libertarian, not a liberal. You don't bother me, I won't bother you. A significant proportion of people in the middle east are unhappy with our occupation and consider it a bother. I want to oblige them and leave.
I'm sorry but I might have to fail you and put you a year behind. You're at 5th grade level politics. Keep going if you want the lesson to continue.
Report: Gulf States Prepared to Back U.S. Military Strike on Iran
How isn't the military conflict in Iraq in US's interests?
Pulling out now, and many of those reconstruction contracts go to foreign companies. Why lose future opportunity to pump the economy?
All the funding wasted on the Iraqi war to begin with, might as well have the conflict benefit the economy in the long-term.
The middle east is an area where the US should have little involvement, focusing only on limited trade, and foreign exchanges. It's too late for that philosophy, the damage has already been done by Bush, and it's America's responsibility to clean it up.
I don't agree with Bush's plan to increase troops, but I don't agree with pulling out either. Middle ground has to be sought, train the Iraqi Army and police so they can be self-sufficient and pull out.
Idealistically, it would be great to pull out. Realistically, it could turn not only Iraq, but the whole middle east into a bigger bloodbath. America has to bathe in the shit they touched.