im 15 and my gf is with baby...

I hate to sound like the heartless one here but i think abortion is the best way, neither of you have the money or time to take care of a baby, but i think you should give her the choice.

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Originally Posted by stinkyattic

Whoa nellie... you make some other good points but that's harsh... I'm not lil josh's biggest fan for other posts, but I understand the terror that he must be going through right now... not really the time to give a lecture on condoms or why exactly a 14 year old girl was drunk... lil josh, my heart goes out to you and your girlfriend, really, I know how frightening it is and I'm sure you've already learned a lesson... any choice you make is going to be painful to follow through with for one reason or another... you are both going to want to talk to a therapist after this whole thing is over. Decide fast because chemical abortion is going to be a lot less emotionally scarring than the traditional sort... I've had 2 close girlfriends who waited too long for it to be an option and they were both pretty traumatized by the experience.

I guess the last thing I want to say is that I hope you are both close enough with your families to talk to them about it... as much as the canncom crowd is here 24 hours a day, so are your parents, and I'll bet they love you more than we do.

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sorry, its just that you cant undo the suffering that my mom took, i know i ruined her life but she wont admit it, i try and everyone who gave my mom shit, ive fucking kicked their ass, im all my mom had and i try to make her proud, i love my mother and only wish i came a little later on in her life

Removed by better Judgement... Sometimes yanno...

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Originally Posted by Samwhore

sorry, its just that you cant undo the suffering that my mom took, i know i ruined her life but she wont admit it, i try and everyone who gave my mom shit, ive fucking kicked their ass, im all my mom had and i try to make her proud, i love my mother and only wish i came a little later on in her life

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Sam, I think I've known you long enough to say this to you, and I hope you'll listen real well. You didn't ruin anyone's life. You are a good girl who has made your mom proud. Seriously, you are a loving daughter and have been a gift to her. Don't tell yourself otherwise. You may have been the result of an unplanned pregnancy, but if anyone in those circumstances is guilty of "ruining," it's not the baby. It's the people who let themselves get unexpectedly pregnant. Babies are the innocent ones in these equations. Please don't beat yourself up for having resulted from an unexpected pregnancy or term yourself as responsible for someone else's suffering. We all go through challenges and endure rough stuff, and all kids, even in the best of circumstances, put their parents through agony at times. You and your mom have beaten the odds, and you're a great kid. Your mom loves you, and so so lot of other folks! :)

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Sam, I think I've known you long enough to say this to you, and I hope you'll listen real well. You didn't ruin anyone's life. You are a good girl who has made your mom proud. Seriously, you are a loving daughter and have been a gift to her. Don't tell yourself otherwise. You may have been the result of an unplanned pregnancy, but if anyone in those circumstances is guilty of "ruining," it's not the baby. It's the people who let themselves get unexpectedly pregnant. Babies are the innocent ones in these equations. Please don't beat yourself up for having resulted from an unexpected pregnancy or term yourself as responsible for someone else's suffering. We all go through challenges and endure rough stuff, and all kids, even in the best of circumstances, put their parents through agony at times. You and your mom have beaten the odds, and you're a great kid. Your mom loves you, and so so lot of other folks! :)

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aww, thanks, but im completely okay with being my moms accident, thats why i can truthfully say i was, ive accepted that fact and love my mother, thats why i dont want anyone else (lil josh's girlfriend) to suffer like she did,

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy chronic,

Take a look,at the pic of a baby,at 20 weeks..and tell us again,that it's just a "tumor" :mad:

Then take a look,at the pic of what you want Lil Josh to do to his son or daughter. :mad:

I hope and pray..that Josh and his girlfriend,won't choose to murder their un-born son or daughter. :)

Have a good one ...

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dude, do you know where i could get a poster of the second pic?
that is cool looking.
perhaps you know the location of a video.....?
tumor: is attached to carrier, takes away nutrients from the carrier, sometimes fatal, it grows
baby: is attached to host, takes away nutrients from its host, sometimes fatal, it grows, eventually becomes a human.
theres not much difference between the two.
idk why peope attach such emotions to things.
we have....what was it? 6 billion people on this planet? we do not need anymore.

The difference, MastaC, is that last part of the second phrase, "eventually becomes a human." Actually, there's no eventuality about it. It is a human. And that's why there's a world of difference between a fetus and a tumor--and why intelligent, caring people attach such emotions to pregnancies, even early ones.

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The difference, MastaC, is that last part of the second phrase, "eventually becomes a human." Actually, there's no eventuality about it. It is a human. And that's why there's a world of difference between a fetus and a tumor--and why intelligent, caring people attach such emotions to pregnancies, even early ones.

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but it is still a part of the woman, and because it is, she has every right to have it removed, human or not.

You won't get any argument from me on that one, MastaC. She does have that right and should retain it. I simply wish that people wouldn't exercise that right with the frequency that they do. Above all, I wish they'd practice safe sex so they wouldn't ever find themselves in such a situation. It's SO much easier to prevent a pregnancy and never have to be faced with either bringing an unplanned baby into the world or terminating a pregnancy.

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I simply wish that people wouldn't exercise that right with the frequency that they do. Above all, I wish they'd practice safe sex so they wouldn't ever find themselves in such a situation. It's SO much easier to prevent a pregnancy and never have to be faced with either bringing an unplanned baby into the world or terminating a pregnancy.

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i agree with you on this