Drug users are Modernists who despise Classicism
Plus, sometimes I just like to argue irregardless of my actual personal beliefs.
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Drug users are Modernists who despise Classicism
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Originally Posted by Dante Alighieri
There were a few patricians from rich families who engaged in such acts, but how can you judge the entirety of roman society (whose morality was very similar to Judeo-Christian), based on that?
So I ask: How can you judge the entire drug user population by just a few bad eggs?
Practice what you preach, my brother.
Drug users are Modernists who despise Classicism
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Originally Posted by Its a Plant
So I ask: How can you judge the entire drug user population by just a few bad eggs?
Practice what you preach, my brother.
Well Said!
Drug users are Modernists who despise Classicism
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Originally Posted by Billionfold
This thread is actually pretty cool. Of course, he stereotype drug users which did piss me off slightly, but my big ol' bowl of chili and glass of milk made me forget! It ancient Rome, it was accepted for older men to marry young boys. Would you accept this in todays culture? No you would not. If you would, then I suggest you go and have tea with Michael Jackson and sip some Jesus juice.
Nobody likes chili?
I like chili...except sometimes it gives me the runs
Drug users are Modernists who despise Classicism
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Originally Posted by Billionfold
This thread is actually pretty cool. Of course, he stereotype drug users which did piss me off slightly, but my big ol' bowl of chili and glass of milk made me forget! It ancient Rome, it was accepted for older men to marry young boys. Would you accept this in todays culture? No you would not. If you would, then I suggest you go and have tea with Michael Jackson and sip some Jesus juice.
Nobody likes chili?
Eh? It was not acceptable for men to marry boys in Rome. I do not deny there was paedophilia, but I challenge you to prove to me that such marriages were promoted, or even occurred.
Drug users are Modernists who despise Classicism
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Originally Posted by Dante Alighieri
An amateur at classical history obviously, sorry but thats a myth - There were a few patricians from rich families who engaged in such acts, but how can you judge the entirety of roman society (whose morality was very similar to Judeo-Christian), based on that?
Cicero was a Conservative so it was likely he didn't. Oh, and Dante was from the Middle-Ages, not Classical Rome.
Well, I knew if I provoked you enough with stone-cold ignorance you would eventually end up talking in circles.
Let's review your first post, shall we?
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Originally Posted by Dante Alighieri
Drug users are well known for their hatred of Classicism, some of the worst excesses of the 1960's can be laid directly at their feet. Drug users have an extremist hatred for anything classical, they want modern art to erase fine art, for modern theater to destroy the beauty of Sophocles or the tragedy of Euripides. Their hatred for anyone who dares to question their motives is unbelievable - The likes of the Tate Modern and other degenerate art forms is what drives them.
They despise the Roman Empire and everything that noble state form stood for, the birth of Stoicism, born in Greece, continued in Rome, stands against everything drug user modernists stand for, the most famous of words, uttered by one of the Seven Sages of Athens - "Nothing in Excess" is contrary to everything amoral modernism is.
Drug users detest fine art, fine culture and it's manifestations be them Greece or Rome, or individuals like Caesar Augustus and Dante Alighieri (a mighty classicist poet who despised modernism), I will fight against amoral drug users to my bitter end.
So, in effect, you are guilty of the same thing you just accused me of.
You grouped ALL drug users into one category; namely, that of despising anything Classical.
I grouped ALL Romans into one category; namely, that of attending rowdy orgies and engaging in acts of coitus and fellatio with young men.
I guess both of our faces should be red.
Drug users are Modernists who despise Classicism
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Originally Posted by Its a Plant
So I ask: How can you judge the entire drug user population by just a few bad eggs?
Practice what you preach, my brother.
Sorry, man. Wasn't trying to steal your idea...
I'll smoke one in your honor...
:smokin:
Peace!
Drug users are Modernists who despise Classicism
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Originally Posted by Binzhoubum
Sorry, man. Wasn't trying to steal your idea...
I'll smoke one in your honor...
:smokin:
Peace!
Lol, it's all good man. Say what you gotta say.
But that smoking thing wasn't a bad idea. I rather like smoking. :dance:
Drug users are Modernists who despise Classicism
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Originally Posted by Dante Alighieri
Eh? It was not acceptable for men to marry boys in Rome. I do not deny there was paedophilia, but I challenge you to prove to me that such marriages were promoted, or even occurred.
Forget about the homosexuality - it doesn't matter. Michaelangleo was one, and a great artist - as were many others.
Be wary of anybody that claims to know the "truth". Stoicism is probably something that, if you study it enough, you will ultimately accept as an influence and aid to discipline, but not as a definitive "way". The truly creative souls are not dependent on systems, or drugs for that matter, to allow their minds to grow and improve. It's just a tool. High art can happen in spite of religion (or lack of), pain, ignorance, sickness, poverty, and other difficulties. When artists are creating something worthwhile, all the bullshit and theory goes out the window.
Drug users are Modernists who despise Classicism
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Originally Posted by Dante Alighieri
Eh? It was not acceptable for men to marry boys in Rome. I do not deny there was paedophilia, but I challenge you to prove to me that such marriages were promoted, or even occurred.
You are right about the marriage issue, at least from everything I have ever read or been taught regarding this subject; however, it WAS common for older men in the higher social classes to have a couple "boytoys" just in case.
