Any Religious potheads out there?

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Originally Posted by james2theson

Im a christian and i do smoke bud..to be completely honest with u no matter how muhc i try to convince myself that smoking bud is a positive thing, and does not affect ur relationship with God, it does..lately ive had to rexamine my life and draw out my faults...Bud is fun and all and i belive its ok once ina while, but it truly can take ahold of you, esspecailly if your a christian. when ur walking with jesus your satans main target. marijuana can be a gate way for sin to discourage you and unmotivate you..i stumbled upon this quote the ohter day about how Satan not wanting you to fulfill God plan for your life because we are part of his ultimate defeat and by unmotivating us to thinking we cant do the things that God has in front of us hes minipulating us to turing away form God.

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your smoking it with the wrong intentions and being disrespectful with god's holy herb, i believe it helps you see right from wrong and it encourages me to be a stronger christian...:rasta:

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Originally Posted by antikoala

I'm not sure I see your point clearly here, perhaps you can make it more specific?How exacly do you think satan's targetting you through MJ?The reasons I'm puzzled are a)because smoking has been considered as the most typical ritualistic practice in most religions (christianity included) due to the upgoing fumes symbolizing the connection between heaven and earth and b) smoking weed especially is an essential part of the rastafarian worshipping of Jesus -they call MJ "Jah gift" and "holy weed" if I'm not mistaken (rastafarians being Orthodox Coptic christians)

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James2theson is expressing very well what most any believer has to deal with. It is not at all an intellectual matter. It has everything to do with the life and walk of the spirit. The spirit leads to all truth also defined as the Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Christ. If James2theson is lacking peace to continue then ~ that alone will cause him to cease. Arguments don't work here. The lack of peace explains all, and supercedes all. "He leads forth in peace". Peace can't be bought, so to speak. It's never worth it.

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Originally Posted by Shelbay

I have been told its becuase when we take drugs or drink it allows evil spirits to manipulate and control us..also that we contribute to the deaths of people that die because of our wants and needs..ie..their blood is on our hands. I used to tell my pastor I didn't buy and I rebuked the evil when I did enjoy...he still told me I was sinning..but after I "helped" his wife..hypocrisy again about the plant.

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This thread is exactly the reason why I don't buy into religion...yet listen with an open, unbias ear.

:smokin:

Either way...Krishnamurti, I think you all should read it. :stoned:

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Originally Posted by daima

According to God cannabis is good.

"I made ALL the seed bearing herbs and saw that this was good"
-God

"NOTHING i made shall be neglected if it is to be recieved with thansgivings"
-God

"It isnt what a man puts in his mouth that makes him unclean, but that which comes out of his mouth makes him unclean"
-Jesus

"Use my seeded herbs to heal man and to help heal nations"

-God

A Christian belief is that God cant make a mistake, therefore those christians who call Gods plants a mistake cant be right.
As a matter of fact, the "prohibitionist" who use God to justify thier behavior, are addressed in Mathew....."In later times....some shall speak in hypocrisy...commanding that thou(you and me) should abstain(not use) from using that which i created". Key word? Hypocrisy.

Ahhhh i see........here's what must of happened...........On the eight day God was resting and looking down at all of his wonderful work when he had realised that he left all of that Cannabis down there, and he said, "Shit!!!! i left all of that Cannabis down there and now people are going to think i want them to use it. I better create republicans and democrats to correct my mistake"

dai*ma:stoned:
An Atheist prayer i would like to share...."Dear God...please protect me from your followers"

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Hey whats up, where does it state that in the bible?

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Originally Posted by Binzhoubum

This thread is exactly the reason why I don't buy into religion...yet listen with an open, unbias ear.

:smokin:

Either way...Krishnamurti, I think you all should read it. :stoned:

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This post is exactly the reason why I don't buy hardbacks or read my paper.

Not religous but very spiritual. If I had a religion

Religion is and will always be subjective, varying in tenets from person to person, even in the same school of religious thought or congregation. The problem with most church-goers is that instead of saying how they personally feel about a religious topic, they say what they assume they're supposed to say, to align themselves with the dogma and to not appear like a dissenter or something. That sucks, though, because religion shouldn't be comfortable. It should be something to encourage you to evolve to an etheral state of sublimity. We don't get there by drifting.

Pot can be looked at in 2 ways with that said. It can make you feel carnal, confined into a sensual and self-serving shell that some ppl refer to as well-being while others call it oblivion. this effect makes one hungry, horny, childish, and other attributes considered pleasing to the carnal mind.
The positive effect of pot on the religious mind is that it dramatically alters your perspective of yourself and the world. Looking at yourself from this detached perspective allows you to see yourself as you really are. It's like you're not looking at the world through your eyes anymore; you're looking at yourself and the world through impartial and uninfluenced eyes, from which one can extract prescriptions to accelerate one's spiritual and earthly life.

So my point is , these two types of stoners that we all know are not that way because of pot, they are that way because they are that respective kind of person, whom pot influences respectively. To give a general promulgation of the effects of pot on the religious person is futile, since pot does not effect two given people in the exact same way. I personally feel I have a better grasp on the universe whilst high, even more so than serving a two-year religious mission, but this is me.

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Originally Posted by JMRinFLA

Not religous but very spiritual. If I had a religion

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Didn't finish my post before I hit the "Submit Reply" button before! Here's what I meant to say:

Not religious but very spiritual. If I had a religion I guess it would be Wicca. I think the Earth has its own life force and that any Gods that do exist are found in nature. Screwy stuff, I know. Wiccans are typically avid tokers too so I'd definitely fit in!

"If you are atheist or a non-beleiver, please dont post your bullshit. thanks."

If you only want Christians to reply why don't you try asking the question on some religious website? Unfortunately I have a feeling they won't tell you what you want to hear either.

Nope, if you're going to be a part of that faction you can't have it both ways--not unless you start your own denomination anyway. Of course you could always start your own "bong hits for Jesus".

Your problem is you're letting your particular sect tell you what God does and doesn't like, does and doesn't think. Well, the fact of the matter is they don't know what's on the mind of God any more than anyone else does, (even though they claim they do...every religion thinks they have an exclusive on God)

So you'll have to decide if you're going to hang out with these guys--you'll just have to come to grips with God being a Republican and behave accordingly.

I think I am going to quit smoking.. "As with any drug, if nothing is wrong with you, then it can only harm. That's what drugs do. Drugs are meant to correct a problem, but, if there's no problem, why fix it?"~Beach guy in thongs This quote fits me dead on dude.Good quote beachguy! Theres nothing wrong with me, so why smoke? I will stick to drinking (which I do moderately). Also I kinda believe if God really put weed on this planet, then it was meant for the people which really need it. The people which have back pains or qualify for having it. WE are all abusing it and its not really meant for us. My 2 cents anyways, thanks for hearing me out guys and girls appriciate it like always.

Mr.N out