Why cannabis SHOULDN'T be legalized

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pride

I have a friend who likes to smoke up but actually he hates the living shit out of weed and thinks its ruining the world (he continues to smoke cause he's addicted).

---

Your friend isnt addicted, he wants an excuse for getting stoned all day and his life not going well.

Moderation is the key, if you smoke all day everyday to forget your problems you are no better than an alcoholic.

the only reason that it is illegal is because big business can't find a way to monopolize it. they are who run the country not the government.
if we cannabis users could convince the major food manufactures that legalizing marijuana would be good for their profits, (we all know how much the average human can devour when we get the muncies) then maybe we would have a chance. its not about it being "harmful" or bad for you, its about who's making money off it.

oh and about this,

Quote:

---

Dudes of the forum, as much as you hate the popo for busting your weed asses, there's gonna be a time where you need them to track down the people that hurt you when you have something as little as just a cell phone number that another person is paying the bills for yet still manage to catch the culprit.

---

yeh probably not going to happen. the police aren't around to protect and serve, they're just there to protect the banks for the fortune 500 companies.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pride

I have a friend who likes to smoke up but actually he hates the living shit out of weed and thinks its ruining the world (he continues to smoke cause he's addicted). I decided to post his opinions but mine as well.

Anyway, we already have tobacco and alcohol problems in this country. Why should we legalize another drug? This country is well known for being stupid with drugs and abusing drugs. Do we really need another drug to legalize?
Freedom of choice? It's gonna cost this country a lot just to do so.

Medical? Is there really medical benefits? Or is it just an excuse for potheads and old people to get high?
If medical weed is legalized, then people can cure their back problems while at work. It's not like their back pains won't return. Then they'll be too stoned to work and it'll all be legal and will cause a slow down in this country.

Expensive pills not working? Side effects?
He thinks that patients are lying and just want weed to get high.
As harsh as it sounds, we cannot just ignore these things.
I've read posts from some of you that are trying to bullshit your doctors to get a medical card (YOU know who YOU are!)

Statistics in other countries?
One pot head said "Look at Amsterdam, they're doing fine!"
Yet a non smoker from a completely different forum said: "Amsterdam is full of whores and potheads! It's disgusting!"
Plus, we're not Amsterdam. In fact, we can't even let alone handle alcohol that we had to push the drinking age to 21. We saved 20,000 lives a year just for doing that.

Many of you think the government just wants money, doesn't want us to know the truth, etc. But perhaps they're keeping weed illegal for a perfectly better reason than what you think. Maybe they simply don't want the country to be full of potheads who stay home all the time. I admit they go out of control sometimes, but so can potheads anyway.

I am not for keeping it illegal, or legalizing it. But rather I'm just a curious George asking questions. Don't be mad and flame me, but rather try to think and reason. All I see are 'LEGALIZE IT' threads, but there's never a topic that questions the bad parts of weed. There's a bad side of everything. We should discuss it. I see way too many threads on people failing and dropping out of school because they skip school and get high. We cannot toss that aside.

It'd be great if weed became legal and I can easily go to a store and get weed and peacefully smoke it at home. That's what we all think. But maybe we're thinking for ourselves and just want to get high.

Maybe we should look at the bigger picture?

Please reply and tell me your thoughts.
Again keep in mind, I'm not for legalizing, nor for keeping it illegal. But I think this is a very important topic to discuss.
Another thing though, this is probably like posting why pirating stuff is ok on a warez forum. But I still want your opinions.
Thanks.

---

Without going into a 5 page discertation let me just make this point. Some of us in society think "people just smoke pot to get high...". Some do and some smoke it for it's medicinal purposes, but what does it matter if someone smokes it to get high. I sports all of my life (up till the colliegate level) because I loved the HIGH (rush) that you get when you suceed. Scoring a touchdown, hitting a triple....these are all ways of exciting our conscious beings. You think Lance armstrong went through all of what he did just to get the trophys?! Hell no....he got a physical rush from accomplishing these feats.

If you look at society, most people do something in order to stimulate themselves (get high in a way). When the stimulus for you to feel good starts to have negative personal and societal implications then it must be looked at carefully and somehow regulated. As far as I have known the only societal problems that arise from MJ is from its imposed illegality which raises all kinds of societal problems, some taking generations to possibly resolve and return to status quo.

Like anything else in this world, MJ should be regulated to an extent. Children should not be given free reign on open cannabis use as they are not mental formed yet. They are learning abstract thought processes and the ability to make rational decisions. In an optimal situation, they would have nothing clouding there development, but thats not real; life and kids will be just like adults.....finding ways to, in essence, get "high" and relieve some of the stresses that this human enviroment throws upon us.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Methyl3

Without going into a 5 page discertation let me just make this point. Some of us in society think "people just smoke pot to get high...". Some do and some smoke it for it's medicinal purposes, but what does it matter if someone smokes it to get high. I sports all of my life (up till the colliegate level) because I loved the HIGH (rush) that you get when you suceed. Scoring a touchdown, hitting a triple....these are all ways of exciting our conscious beings. You think Lance armstrong went through all of what he did just to get the trophys?! Hell no....he got a physical rush from accomplishing these feats.

If you look at society, most people do something in order to stimulate themselves (get high in a way). When the stimulus for you to feel good starts to have negative personal and societal implications then it must be looked at carefully and somehow regulated. As far as I have known the only societal problems that arise from MJ is from its imposed illegality which raises all kinds of societal problems, some taking generations to possibly resolve and return to status quo.

Like anything else in this world, MJ should be regulated to an extent. Children should not be given free reign on open cannabis use as they are not mental formed yet. They are learning abstract thought processes and the ability to make rational decisions. In an optimal situation, they would have nothing clouding there development, but thats not real; life and kids will be just like adults.....finding ways to, in essence, get "high" and relieve some of the stresses that this human enviroment throws upon us.

---

Sorry...had to edit it and it wouldn't let me.



Without going into a 5 page discertation let me just make this point. Some of us in society think "people just smoke pot to get high...". Some do and some smoke it for it's medicinal purposes, but what does it matter if someone smokes it to get high. I played sports all of my life (up till the colliegate level) because I loved the HIGH (rush) that you get when you suceed. Scoring a touchdown, hitting a triple....these are all ways of exciting our conscious beings. You think Lance armstrong went through all of what he did just to get the trophys?! Hell no....he got a physical rush from accomplishing these feats.

If you look at society, most people do something in order to stimulate themselves (get high in a way). Mountain climbers, sky divers, extreme sking etc are all done in order to feel that rush. The problem is when the stimulus for you to feel good starts to have negative personal and societal implications then it must be looked at carefully and somehow regulated. Even athletes who will win at all costs...this is just as destructive as some drugs. As far as I have known the only societal problems that arise from MJ is from its imposed illegality which raises all kinds of societal problems, some taking generations to possibly resolve and return to status quo.

Like anything else in this world, MJ should be regulated to an extent. Children should not be given free reign on open cannabis use as they are not mentally formed yet. They are learning abstract thought processes and the ability to make rational decisions. In an optimal enviroment they would have nothing clouding there development, but thats not real; life and kids will be just like adults.....finding ways to, in essence, get "high" and relieve some of the stresses that this human enviroment throws upon us.

As far as lethargy at work.....that could very well be an issue in an industrial/capitalistic society such as ours. I have to ask though.....where are you going? Do we need to work like mice or monkeys? Whether your religous or not.....did god lay a prerequisite that you had to work like animals in order to suceed? IMHO....we are all destined to be recycled. Enjoy life while your here because before you know it its all gone.

It shouldn't be legal for a lot of reasons. That doesen't mean you shouldn't smoke it though.

because sum people need an excuse to go to jail so they can rape people

Listen Marajawana has no physicaly addictive properties, any addiction is purley psychological and should be addressed with phyciatric help. Everyone please take this into serious account.

Canuctoker owned this thread. Case closed.

To o.d. on weed you have to smoke you body weight and thats exactly why NOONE will ever o.d. on weed. And kids failing school that is fixable by putting a age limit of 21 on it then kids wont have it and stop selling at 9 o'clock and big business have thousands of way to profit from weed
Clothing,high people have MUNCHIES,selling the weed. And crack and herion aren't a problem sorry but FUCK YOU i am the son of a guy who just recently got out of rehab for CRACK so i know that its a huge fucking problem. THere were days at a time we didnt eat,i had the same torn ass clothes for years,I had to spend winters in a house without HEAT and thats in WI. were talking 5degrees inside and you have no money to get new blankets or clean old ones,I had to cook everything i owned in a microwave because of no gas, we had to go to my grandparents to go to the bathroom and shower because the pipes burst and we were to poor to fix them, My grandparents got a restraining order on my father because he borrowed over 80,000 dollars from them in a few years just to buy crack. THat runs rampid in many citys NOW you live through that and say crack aint a problem fuck that all crack dealers caught should not get prison they should be shot!!!

i heard that amsterdam does have prostitutes but they are in like stores and u can choose which one u want and they r checked motnhly for HIV and AIDS and shit like that