i jsut read this and had to tripple post so as to elaborate my point:
it's hard to make a person understand something especcially when their paycheck depends on them NOT understanding.
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i jsut read this and had to tripple post so as to elaborate my point:
it's hard to make a person understand something especcially when their paycheck depends on them NOT understanding.
fuck you. it is people like you who are responsable for the evil of the world.
rather than standing up and doing what's right, you just bow and say "yes matsa".
the world isnt evil because people DO evil, it's because people, LIKE YOU, just LET THEM.
life isnt about how fucking easy you can have it, life isnt about that at all, life is SUPPOSED to be a challenge, it's supposed to make you stronger physically and mentally. life is supposed to be enjoyable all the while! but fuck, you cant have that! you have to make sure everyone suffers. you gotta make sure that everyone is being controlled, gotta see to it that no one can be happy on their own efforts, gotta make them pay.
maybe not YOU directly, but god damn man, why do you just let it be? why dont you stand up and fight? just because it's easier? that shows how initially weak you are.
i shouldnt have come back to the boards, should i?
Stoner, even with your system, there will be wealthy, and unwealthy alike...
Take for intance a person who has a trade that everyone needs; his services will be needed more than say someone who shoe's horses. Not everyone will be fortunate enough to do something everyone needs. Therefore, not everyone will be equal...just like it is now!
Money is not evil, but it does place people in classes, which your sytem would do as well.
Btw, not too many people will provide their services w/o something in return. A farmer won't simply give his food away, he'll need something given back to him, and if you can't provide something he needs, then your sh!t out of luck! ;)
I think your system would fail, whereas the system we have now actually WORKS! Why fix what's not broken?
Seriously, what would be the difference between your sytem, and what we have now, man? (Other than certain starvation for those who have no beneficial trade)
You may not agree with our monotary system, but it DOES work!
I'm interested to know 'why' you think your system is better than what we have now, because I don't see it!
How would it work, and what exactly do you suggest I be fighting for?
Being realistic,
You own a computer. You're a bitch to the system too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf
You wanna show me you can live without money, go grab your ass a farm and start tilling your own land. Once you got a good life going without money, I'll pick up a shovel and join you.
Damn, you're the defenition of a hippycrit (a hippie and a hypocrit, just in case you didn't know) The world is evil and money is the root of all evil, but please give me money so I can get out of this fascist country.
Money isn't the root of all evil, rather the love of money.
We have to be the world's bitch, that's the way it works. Sorry, really I am, but that's the truth.
*smacks graph on the ass* :thumbsup:
you dont even KNOW how my system works, Junkyard, as i have not yet outlined anything, only given brief glimpses of fragments of the whole.
not right now, as i am DEAD tired and cant sleep (i'll be posting elsewhere soon) but the general idea is to make everything usable to everyone.
for example, you want a new couch. you can either try to barter for it, and bartering does not disclude physical labor, just FYI-given your farm example, or you can learn how to make it yourself. it's not that hard, but other things, like a TV would be a most difficult process, as one would have to learn a lot about cybernetics and plastics, among other things, but it's not impossible. you would then go to a factory and build your TV yourself.
yes, there is the maintainance factor, and people would have to routinely check and fix things, but i can see them as either being hired, and given special little badges that say "i eat for free" or something OR you would be required to perform these duties prior to using the machines.
overall, it revolves around teaching everyone everything about everything everyone can be taught about.
so that anyone can do any job.
people dont have specific jobs, they come and go as they please.
go to a restraunt and do some cleanup, make some food, and eat.
sure, i can see money still having a use, but it will not DOMINATE the world, and in fact will be worth less than physical labor, and not a real form of currency, but something along the lines of trade, most likely import-export related.
graph...
i would if i could but i cant so i wont.
i aspire to, believe me, and if i can get a chance to work on a farm, i am there, but i have not had such opprutunities knocking at my door in a while... make that ever.
although my uncle's friends have a sort of farm, i am half tempted to talk to them about letting me help out, and half shying away cuz i dont want to impose on my uncle's friends, THOUGH im sure they would love to have me around to help out.
next time i am down there, i intend to talk to them.
oh, and for the record, i dont own any computers, nor do i actually pay any money for anything.
i dont earn a paycheck, so i am not contributing in any way other than the fact that i do spend what money my dad gives me for food (hey, i gotta eat, cut me some slack eh?).
ahAahAahahQuote:
Originally Posted by God v2.0
Wow. I guess that whole "surgery" thing will be a thing of the past.
Unless, of course, you find someone who will teach you how, if you give him a potato.
I understand what you are saying and completly 100% agree with it!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf
The world would be abetter place if we didn't have money at all!
People are talking about living in "reletive poverty", if everyone in the world started again from 0 alot of people would die....mostly the materialistic people who think that they need money to survive....but alot of people would survive
I honestly think the world would be a better place if there was no money/electricity etc etc and if we had to hunt for our food...
I would love to have lived like that!
(I haven't read the rest of the thread btw.....so im probably a bit behind!!)lol