Do you believe in God and Satan?

i'm agnostic. the closest belief in a supreme being I have is believing a supreme being created existance. i keep thinking where everything came from. like the big bang, where'd that come from? i totally believe in evolution and if a God does exist, I highly doubt that he cares much about 1 little planet where people kill each other in the name of him. i see the universe as one giant ant farm.

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Originally Posted by fikusroot

I was on a plaque and denis hopper commented on it. No I did not know it was by Volitare. Yes I know who Volitare is. No, speaking Frech does not make you sound intelligent.

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Je suis en accord. Le français me rend très intelligent, mais quand je parle la langue "Frech" tout le monde pense que je suis stupide car cette langue n'existe pas!

For you to say that you exist and he doesn't, you're only pointing out that you don't believe he put you here. Even though you don't have a clue to how you got here, I should believe your words over his right?

Where is the logic in choosing unbelieving over believing?

If what I preach is right, then you are screwed. If what you say is right, then I'm with you. Why should I take your side? At worst, I'm with you. What is the logic in choosing something with no upside?

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Originally Posted by Inferius

I want there to be more. I want to die physically and find out that our views aren't just a drop of intelligence in an ocean of what we have no clue about, nor ever could. I really, really, REALLY want to beleive that there is more than just a chemical reaction promoting every feeling and expirience I'll ever have. I think we all want this.

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For a long time I suffered from a similar objective, mechanical outlook on life and the universe -- the crushing, overwhelming weight that comes with realizing that you're an insignificant speck of life at the unsympathetic whim of an inconceivably vast and complex universe, and the simultanious emptyness at feeling that your life is a meaningless mechanical/chemical process. It's a truly helpless and hopeless feeling, and at least speaking from personal experience that view has contributed to a lot of negative feelings and depression in my past.

My current outlook is more... I guess, more animistic, though perhaps not in the strictest definition of the word. I consider humans to be "expressions of the universe", as Alan Watts would say. That 'meaning' and 'significance' as one would use the terms in a spiritual sense have nothing to do with how big or small they are in the universe. That the chemical and electrical impulses which are necessary for having thoughts and emotions makes said thoughts and emotions no less significant, because they themselves are a part of a beautiful, sacred process. Just because these happenings -- the vastly intricate inner-workings of our bodies, to the outer complexities of the universe -- can't be fully translated into thought (that is, into symbols, words and numbers), makes them no more or less important than any other part of the natural universe, including ourselves, our thoughts or the complicated workings of our cells and nervous system. On it's most basic level, it's all one reciprocal happening.

All the energies of the cosmos, the forces that create and move the gallaxies and solar systems and stars and planets -- those same energies move us, too.