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I know. Maybe some things should just be free?
Surely food, shelter, and a basic landline telephone should be free. At NO ONE'S expense. That's the trouble. Those 3 things are pretty basic needs, and should be free. But, with our current system, we can't do that at other people's expense. I don't know what to do...
thank u penguin.. our gov't is so stupid, they give america a false name. bush is stupid and is like hitler and they legalize alcohol and tobaco when there is not one death from marijuana...use ur head dumb fuckin government.
goerge washington grew marijuana and Abe Lincoln smoked it..we used to be a cool country
Gas should be free im 16yrs old and making minuim wage i cant pay $40 to fill up my tank.
i guarantee u i could have a much better life living in a nice area of jamaica with an ok job. or amsterdam or Canada.
Canada knows what there doing, they dont get INVOLVED. there smart and kno how to run a country.
so whats the deal with penguin? is it just me or is he like....15 or somehitng.
just cut the bullshit man, you just DON'T have the wisdom and experiences to back up your ego of thinking youve figuered everyrhitng out. ooooooo wow, lets all behold the wisdom of a fucking high school sophomore, real impressive.
like honestly, its fine that youre thinking about stuff like this, but if i were to go through and nit-pick that pile of worthlessness you just wrote about gov't it would take me all day. youre so fundamentally wrong it's embarassing.
"oo fuck the government, they lie, they steal, theyre bad people, they control us" YOURE 15, dont act liek you know the in's and out's of how a government works, and why they do what they do.
im in no way defending the american government or refuting it, if i wanted to do that i wouldn't post it on a board that's meant for the "methods of using cannabis."
all in all, i want to give a big 'pull your head out of your ass' to penguin, because face it man, youre not nearly as knowledgable and insightful as you build yourself up to be
Where the fuck do you get your infromation dude?
First, government did not start as bandit party that killed and stole foods. That is a fucking third grade explanation to explain the evils of government. Government started as nomadic response to protect centralized land areas they would eventually settle. Besides government is not run off money, it is run off power. They have the power to make you pay for these things, they have the power to do things, they have the power to inact laws on you. Why do they have this power? Because we let them. Sorry dude, but unless you can start a revolution you should do something to change the system from within (its called working to elect an ideal government).
On money, you do realize a government can't give out things for free. Like it or not, resources do not grow on trees. The government must control the means of production, and they can not do it if there is no monetary system to keep the system vibrant. Sorry man, but that problem will follow you everywhere.
On religion. There are lots of religions out there and you can not generalize all of them. Besides, people naturally seek some sort of spirtual exsistance, because we want to believe we are not alone. Sure, certain dogmatic traditions have destoryed the names of lots of religions, but you can only blame those responsible. Saying fuck religion is like saying fuck humanity.
On power. Power is everywhere, always has been, always will be. I agree, the system sucks. However, you make it seem like free will is doomed by power. This is not the case, because you are free to choose to be under different power strctures. Also, you are free to live outside the power structure, and people have done it many times before.
On you. You need to stop bitching, dude. Fuck that shit. Personally, I'm about as liberal as they come, but I don't spend my time bitching about how much I hate big brother government. I spend my time working on campagins, I've ran for mayor, I've helped orginizae a national campaign, I'm studying history and poliy sci just so I can do my part to rid ignorance. You seem to be talking about revolution, but your not doing anything to prevent it. Do you want to fucking die fighting a corrupt system, or do you want to work hard so you kids don't have to worry about it? Look, I like reading your posts, but this attitude (and the attitude of SweetDreams420) shows no maturity, just a middle finger to every thing because you refuse to take the long road to peace.
Note: I am really high and trying to type.
The reason that you can't think of any other viable alternatives to the monetary system (a natural extension of the barter system), is because they do not exist. Capitalism is by far the most beneficial economic system we have, and helps many, many more than it can ever hurt. Although for those that cannot work, such as the disabled, are and should be provided for those basic needs (except for a telephone, that seems somewhat out of place), for those able to work, but refuse to for a variety of reasons, the government should not have to bear the burden of their mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by P.E.N.G.U.I.N.
Also, you rally against government in one paragraph, and in the next you promote much greater government control, this time over private industry and interest. Seems a bit contradictive.
You're also way off on religion. Religion, in modern America, is a very positive force in the lives of many. Most people willingly submit to religious control, for their own reasons, and reap many rewards. Now, I'm not a religious person myself, but for those who believe that's a viable avenue towards spiritual enlightment, then more power to them. Religious organizations also help to encourage charity and tolerance towards others, something that I'm sure you'd be for.
What, you mean challenge him to take up a sense of responsibility as opposed to passing the buck and talking about the horrible things others have done while remaining passive about the whole state of affairs?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAtomicPunk
We've all got to grow up sometime. If you can't accept that then you're walking a fine line between sheltering and suffocating.
FACT: fighting on the internet is like racing in the special olympics: you may win, but you're still retarted. peace :dance:
oh, and also, you guys who say shit about obeying the law like a "good citizen" or w/e: you're a fucking POTHEAD, and you're breaking laws every time you hit that shit, so stfu about obeying the law until you stop toking, k? :thumbsup:
i'm gonna be honest. I used to not be down with you. now i am. fuck people who flame.