Tempting Fate ................

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Originally Posted by JunkYard

Is it difficult to start seedlings with an HID? I have no lights at the moment, and I'll be growing very soon. I'm a little indesicive about what to purchase. Is it flouresents for seedlings and veg, or do I go with an hps switchable, and a metal hilide conversion bulb? That would cost me less in the long run, and I could get it soon, but I'm worried about being a first time grower, and using HID's off the bat./shrug (I don't want to kill my babies!)

How do you pull it off? I mean with the HID's for seedlings?

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Usually, if you have a good distance from the bulb, they'll be fine. Just check the moisture levels of the medium the seedling is in -- if it's too dry, chances are the bulb is too close or the area too warm, or a combination. If you want to play it safe, buy just a simple medium socket compact fluorescent [ CFL ]. They screw into standard household incandescent sockets, use a whole lot less energy, and give off ultraviolet radiation that stimulates plant growth. You can buy 25w daylight spectrum CFLs at Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. for cheap. The reason to get daylight spectrum is for their higher kelvin output -- meaning that for vegetative growth [ that's from the time it pops the soil's surface until you decide to induce flowering ] you want 5000k light or higher. The daylight spectrum comes with 6500k, which is actually around ~1,500k brighter than the sun's [ Sol's, rather ] visible surface -- or it's photosphere. The slightly higher kelvin output will demote internodal stretching, and promote side branching. Meaning you'll get a bush instead of a long twig with fan leaves. Although, an MH at a distance on a plant from seedling wouldn't hurt, just monitor the temperatures.


And Mobay; get back into growing simply because I want to see another HST'd plant thread. That fucking plant was huge. When I first saw the pictures, this popped in my head http://www.jahozafat.com/0058493028/.../hugebitch.wav

Howdy mand, t'is great to find another uk grower on here, especially one so passionate for growing the herb :thumbsup:
Going to enjoy watching your babes grow, WW is a very nice smoke with good medi qualities. :smokin:

Hello Kush :) , I should be pinching/topping them at least once, I wouldn't mind trying twice but I'll wait and see how they go first.
I've always fancied trying multiple pinching like you're plant, I think it transforms a single plant from being "just a plant" into being basiclly a "bush";)

By the way Kush I always have a tendancy to call it "pinching" more so than "topping" because that's what it really is, I always use my fingernails to just "pinch" off the new growth :o



Hello JunkYard :) , well most will say that a MH/HPS conversion is the best combination and I do agree with that ;) .
I've always started seedlings off under the MH bulb as soon as they poke their sprouts out of the compost.
The thing is just don't get the lamp in to close or else you may risk "frazzling" them with the heat from the bulb. The use of fan is a very good idea, it allows the lamp to be bought in quite close and therefore helps to prevent "overstreching", also it helps to promote strong stem growth.
Altough I'm a bit awkward when it comes to using a fan, I really do try to keep everything down to the bare minimum on a grow..................... it's just "my way" :o
I will use a fan if it gets too hot in the growroom or if there is a problem with humidity, other than that I don't bother because if the weather is ok then I will leave the growroom door open.

Anyway JunkYard, you can see from the pics that at first I will leave the lamp fairly high up over the seedlings and there is a little streching for the first few days, I honestly don't worry about this at all because after the first intial few days the streching stops and the plants begin to fill out.
Oh and as for watering them, I just use one of the little plastic spray gun thingys, I don't use the watering can untill they are transplated into their bigger pots ............................... I find this the best way of getting the amount of water just right ;)


Hello Mobay :) , Ah you won't be able to keep away from it for long love,..................... you've been bitten by the growing bug, so I'm affraid theres no stopping now for you ;) :)


Hello gin4dub:) Ah I just wish that I could give up the "fags" though love :o
I started when I was at at school, must have been about 13 at the time. The thing is smoking wasn't classed so "anti social" back then and it really was the "done thing" to sneak behind the toilets or the bike shed at dinner and break times for a quick smoke:o

Honestly Gin, I have given up so many times but after about 3/4 months I kinda just have one and then drift back into the dammed things again:(



Hello alchemiser :) Oh there's quite a few from the UK on here love ;)

Well it's my first time ever growing Widows, but I have to admit I kinda feel a bit like I'm just following everyone else with them ................. it seems that everyone is growing them :o
Also I must admit I have a few niggling concerns about only growing nine plants, I usaully grow Sensi seeds and they come in packs of sixteen, so I always grow a full pack.

Anyway it's nice to hear from you alchemiser :)




love mand xxx:)

;) your getting me excited Mand.

LOL... Hows it growing Mand? Any problems with that old fart and his dog lately?

Thanks mand :smokin:
Being part of the crowd isn't a bad thing when it comes to WW, it's reputation is well deserved imvho, currently have 3 of them tucked away in the veg box.
Hope i'm not been to presumptuous with this but being nearly 50% down on seeds started would have me shaking all over if that was my way of growing, get some more underway asap! it's the best advice i can offer for dealing with them niggling concerns of your's mand.
The best way to never run out is grow too much ;)
Stay stoned, alch.

God mand its great to see another lady grower,hello:thumbsup:

Hello Mobay :) What I actually made a guy excited :eek: .................. oh you mean about the growing :rolleyes:
Only kidding Mobay, just me trying a bit of "humor", doesn't quite work on the internet does it :o

Ah well Mobay it was our Mr Latewood who said ages ago that "Cannabis doesn't become addictive untill you start growing it", I reckon those words are so true. I often try to kid myself that I only grow because it is cheaper than buying the stuff, but you know I honestly believe that if all of a sudden money became no object to me (I wish ), I reckon that I would still grow my own .......................... there aren't many things more satisfying than getting wasted on a bit of genuine homegrown :)



Hello Buk :) "Hows it growing" ? .................. is that some grower type term for "Hows it hanging" ;)
Sorry Buk love :o , I'm in one of my "funny":rolleyes: moods to night, had a few Vodies and a little spliffy and still manage to type.

Ah the "old fart", to be honest I've not seen anything off him just lately. You know Buk I can't help but feel a little sad for him. I know he has "snapped" at people before without any provocation. What I understand is he has lived alone for many years now, since his wife left him and I do wonder is it simply lonliness that has made him a bit bitter and twisted.
I hope I never get like that :o.
Tell you what I'll do to prevent it, when my lads leave (if they ever do:rolleyes: ). I'll find myself a "toyboy" to keep me busy :o



Hello alchemiser :) Oh grow too much ................. I honestly wish I could. You know no matter how many grows I do, I never ever seem to be able to say "that's plenty".
Hmmm I thought about germinating a few Skunk seeds to put in there as well but I am trying to keep the numbers down for once and let more light to them;)

Oh by the way I have had a look at "Jack the Ripper", isn't she just a beautifully formed plant, I can just picture her at harvest time :)



Hello calibabe, lovely to hear from you :)
No guessing where you're from with that name ;) . You know I can just picture being on a beach in California (I hope I spelt that right), with the waves crashing and watching Patrick Swayze and Keenau Reeves doing their "Point Break" bit :).
Ah well never mind I suppose I just have to settle for being in freezing middle England, having to wear woolly tight's under my PJ's just to keep warm.

Hmmm yes you do meet a few girls growing on here as well:)





Thankyou ............................................ love mand :) xxx

Hmmm that's the last time I do a late night post :o


Not really an update, more of an introduction ;) . Well there always seems to be one "little runty" in any grow.
I always refer to the runts as she or her because nine times out of ten they do tend to be females.

The first pic is of her with two of her siblings and the second pick is with the rest of the gang. Oh and she also has brown patches coming on her leaves, she really is not the most healthiest of plants :(
Anyway, never mind I always have an habit of siding with the "underdog" so to speak, I'll see how she goes on ;)



love mand xxx:)

Hey Mand,

"How's it Growing"? I like that. Good one Buk. :)

Plants are looking healthy. Keep the updates and pictures coming.