someone's been living in a judeo-christian world ;) clear your mind baby :rastasmoke: and let go of the "right" and "wrong"Quote:
Originally Posted by andymac
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someone's been living in a judeo-christian world ;) clear your mind baby :rastasmoke: and let go of the "right" and "wrong"Quote:
Originally Posted by andymac
I shoot you in the head with a shotgun. Do you still believe you are alive?Quote:
According to Buddism, and Buddha, death is just a concept created by humans
I understand what your saying, its just your theory cannot be applied to humans as it is based around no proof.
If I shot you the matter or energy you are made of is obviously still going to be what we would call "alive".
Matter cannot die from a gun wound and yes matter cannot be destroyed full stop but if I took your conscious from you then what is left?
Without your awareness and thought and the ability to think you are dead.
I think therefore I am.
And also obviously, escape from nirvana?Quote:
Nirvana is escape from everything. Including the concept of escape and the concept of everything.
And the concept of concepts
So the objective is to basically 'not exist?'
The point of existence is to not exist.
How do you prove that you have taken away my conciousness?Quote:
Originally Posted by DSX 1
When a body stops working, how do we know that the conciousness/spirit/whatever is gone as well?
Its being beyond such frail human things as words.Quote:
Originally Posted by DSX 1
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It is a state that is free from any mind-contaminants (kilesa) such as lust, anger or craving; a state of perfect peace unobstructed by psychological conditioning (sankhara). All forms of craving are extinguished such that one is no longer subject to human suffering (dukkha) or further states of rebirths in the samsara.
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"There is that dimension where there is neither earth, nor water, nor fire, nor wind; neither dimension of the infinitude of space, nor dimension of the infinitude of consciousness, nor dimension of nothingness, nor dimension of neither perception nor non-perception; neither this world, nor the next world, nor sun, nor moon. And there, I say, there is neither coming, nor going, nor stasis; neither passing away nor arising: without stance, without foundation, without support [mental object]. This, just this, is the end of stress."
There are a few excerpts from wiki. I think that may explain it a bit better for you.Quote:
When a person who has realized Nirvāṇa dies, his death is referred as his parinirvāṇa, his fully passing away, as his life was his last link to the cycle of death and rebirth (samsara), and he will not be reborn again. Buddhism holds that the ultimate goal and end of samsaric existence (of ever "becoming" and "dying" and never truly being) is realization of Nirvāṇa; what happens to a person after his parinirvāṇa cannot be explained adequately, as it is outside of all conceivable experience of this world
Also, I think its worth noting that I am not Buddhist, I am just trying to explain it as best as I can from an outside perspective.
Lucky for some that all I did was clean this b.s. up.........this thread is CLOSED!
Have a good one!:jointsmile: