I LIED

"look he is banned end of story"

Point well taken. I guess that makes this the end of that.

Toker

you have done freedom of speech whats next? right to free acsess (i know its wrong i tryed three times) to health care or the effects of violence on tv.

reefer - I believe in absolute freedom of political and religious opinion and promotion if that was aimed at me. I also believe in the freedom to switch over, throw away junk mail, and ban drivelling lunatics from forums.

peace :)

Is this how you try to discredit? Look man, all I am saying is Freedom of speech is very importent. If you don't agree, well that's up to you.


When the feds slipped in legislation to punish transit companies for accepting adverts from pro-cannabis activists I let my voice be heard.
When the appellate court upheld the 1st amendment and found the feds law un-constitutional I lit a big bowl in celebration for free speech had won another battle.

And yet...I can understand why one cannot yell "FIRE!" in a theatre unless there really is one.I can understand a website dedicated to cannabis not wanting or enduring offensive talk of incest or whatnot.It's just not the same thing.

"Do excuse me... NWM, please don't ban lunatics anymore, could you shoot them on the spot please, thanks."

Your comparing apples and oranges and saying they are the same because they are both fruit. If someone was hacking my kids with an axe, you can bet your ass I would do my best to end their life. If they were just talking about screwing kids in a shower, I would not be so eager to kill them, as they may just be talking out of their ass. Do you get the difference between action, and speech yet? If I say the government sucks and we should have a revolution, but take no action in that direction, would you think it was the same as if I had taken action towards a revolution against the government?

"Ah, the old 'what's normal' argument."

Well, no on has given a good answer yet. If I ever get one, I'll let ya in on it.

"they speak for the reflected majority of members comments."

I believe they were appointed, and I never saw a vote. Only a few people that didn't like the guy and seemed to hold a grudge had any kind of say.

"I believe that's called Democracy."

The way it's been lately I might agree, but appointed, unelected officers and no vote is a dictatorship, not democracy. I believe you may be confused on that.

"Strange argument for a "Libertarian", and strangely familiar. Sounds more like the argument a conservative christian might use."

Why is that so strange to you?

"To my knowledge this site has not been promoted as giving psychiatric guidance in any medical publications."

But someone said we gather here to help and support? I guess they wern't speaking for everyone after all.

"Moderators draw the line here. Usually with the full support of the majority of users. Sorry, it's that Democracy thing again."

Sorry to have to correct you again, but it is not a democracy here. It's called a dictatorship.

"But if you insist on calling a spade a tulip and threaten people who don't agree with you"

I don't recall ever threatening anyone, did that dude threaten someone?

"He was not putting forward an argument of any kind, thereby not defending a chosen stance other than being an arse."

I can relate a little, I'm kind of an ass myself.

"And if I may say, I believe in defending these actions you are displaying the same qualities."

Let me get this straight. By defending Freedom of speech I am the same quality of person as a child molester in your mind? Interesting concept. Would you have me banned for it?

"They will make them go away from here."

Do you feel safe in that box?

"Yes, but we can talk freely about the issues we came here to discuss without it being in our box."

Out of site out of mind kind of thing, right? That's my point anyway.

"bloogle didn't understand his own statements and admitted such on many occasions. There was nothing to be learnt."

There is always something to learn. You found out that there was nothing to learn. That's learning something. If you can't learn from your expirences, well, that's your problem.

"Yes, you do don't you. You'd rather troll."

Another attempt at a label. I like em, they mean more then words to me. Labels like troll are a sign of insecurity in ones own words. You know, kind of like they think they need a little help with their message, so they try a label or two to spice things up a little and build confidence in their words.

Toker

"And yet...I can understand why one cannot yell "FIRE!" "

Yelling fire can cause harm, saying you showered with a young girl doesn't. As sick as it is, I doubt anyone was running madly for the door in a panic when he said it.

Maybe your right, and I am exagerating the cost to Freedom. Maybe I'm not..........

Toker

"Your comparing apples and oranges and saying they are the same because they are both fruit."

No, I'm taking your argument to it's natural extreme. A method of debate I'm certain you're familiar with.

"I believe they [moderators] were appointed, and I never saw a vote."

So if you were, for example, opening a store you would have a vote on who worked for you? I rather think you'd employ people you judged to be suitable.

"Only a few people that didn't like the guy and seemed to hold a grudge had any kind of say."

Only a few members were in the chat channel, ergo.

" Well, no on has given a good answer yet. If I ever get one, I'll let ya in on it."

No one ever will give an answer you're happy with. You'd have nothing left to argue about.

"The way it's been lately I might agree, but appointed, unelected officers and no vote is a dictatorship, not democracy. I believe you may be confused on that."

Either that or you may need to check a dictionary. Authority.. 'representative of the wishes of the majority' is democracy last time I checked.

" But someone said we gather here to help and support? I guess they wern't speaking for everyone after all."

I'd guess on a cannabis forum they may have meant help with issues concerning cannabis. Just a wild guess.

" Sorry to have to correct you again, but it is not a democracy here. It's called a dictatorship."

Anyone seen Ron recently? Oh where can that dictator be? He needs to be controlling every thread to be doing his dictatorial job properly. Maybe he just leaves it to the members to say what they want, and the moderators to respond. Is it sinking in yet?

"Let me get this straight. By defending Freedom of speech I am the same quality of person as a child molester in your mind? Interesting concept. Would you have me banned for it?"

No my friend. I meant you were being an arse.

"There is always something to learn. You found out that there was nothing to learn. That's learning something. If you can't learn from your expirences, well, that's your problem."

What? I think you lost your own point on that one. Proving you have no evidence does not prove you have a case, it merely proves you have no evidence!

"Labels like troll are a sign of insecurity in ones own words. You know, kind of like they think they need a little help with their message, so they try a label or two to spice things up a little and build confidence in their words."

Well, rehearsed answer, bravo. I tend to find people are given the label trolls by those who recognize trolls. But please keep it up. Just think of me as Billy goat Gruff.

peace :)

Well, at least you agree that freedom of speech is not absolute.I personally believe that people here at Cannabis.com are all for free speech.It also appears that they exercise their rights to be deaf in their own house.

If this site had tolerated the crap that guy was spouting it would have driven away many who visit this board that might actually have something to share.
I think there is a lot of harm in giving a platform to a pedophile.

lmao maryjane i fuckin love ya hahaha when ya comin to pick me up :P

"If this site had tolerated the crap that guy was spouting it would have driven away many who visit this board that might actually have something to share. "

Amen