Is this n deficiency or just need feeding ?? NEED YOUR HELP PLZ!!!

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Originally Posted by bigsby

Expect them to grow like that for 3 - 5 weeks strain dependent, although it will slow over that period. I've never grown jack but it's definitely on my list!

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FFS Your joking inya ?? the tips of the plants are 2ft away from the light and the light can only go up another foot ! , ho will i get round that one if they dont stop growing the way they are ??
Will i have to crop the tops?

No joke. Refer to this thread for control methods. LST may be the way to go but get started today...

An Overview of Cannabis Training (ScrOG, SoG, FIM, Supercrop, LST, etc.)

Bigsby has ya on the right track. 2-4 weeks (or so) of PMS, then they'll start filling-in. (PMS - Pre Motherhood Stretch) Small growth spurts from there, but most of the action is early.
If you're running out of room, likely a good idea to start the training process now. Bad idea to wait till you run out of space.

Use a little care when bending. The branches are usually quite pliable, but use care and don't snap the branch(es). Also, don't tie the twist-tie too tightly around the branches. If too tight, it might cut into the stem as the plant continues to grow. Don't tie any branches from one plant to another plant. Don't untie it, or the plant will spring-back into vertical growth and the bend(s) will be minimal, but check the ties every week to make sure they aren't cutting into the branches.

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

Bigsby has ya on the right track. 2-4 weeks (or so) of PMS, then they'll start filling-in. (PMS - Pre Motherhood Stretch) Small growth spurts from there, but most of the action is early.
If you're running out of room, likely a good idea to start the training process now. Bad idea to wait till you run out of space.

Use a little care when bending. The branches are usually quite pliable, but use care and don't snap the branch(es). Also, don't tie the twist-tie too tightly around the branches. If too tight, it might cut into the stem as the plant continues to grow. Don't tie any branches from one plant to another plant. Don't untie it, or the plant will spring-back into vertical growth and the bend(s) will be minimal, but check the ties every week to make sure they aren't cutting into the branches.

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Cheers guys ,. :)

i have 6 hours b4 the lights go on , So i will take a picture of the whole thing then you should be able to see better ,

You analogy implies that a grower would use 1/3 fert strength for 3 weeks. This was absurd as no intelligent grower would do that. You use the word "heaping" implying an over-use of fert and no intelligent grower would do that either. But it's really a trifling matter.

"But I do now have a beef with you and your info. For starters, all I've seen is you come in here and offer bogus advise about the temps,"

It's not bogus advice. This plant's leaf tips will curl upward to increase transpiration when grow room temps are a little too warm, especially when there isn't enough airflow. I can't vouche for what happens with your grow as I have no idea.

"you bring-up other posts and accuse me of misdiagnosing or misleading or whatever,"

I'm sorry but that's exactly what you do. Your diagnosis for every bent leaf, every brown spot, is either pH or rootbound/rootrot.

"you slam stinkyattic (a moderator) who hasn't been here in a year"

Something interesting about stinkyattic is the fact that she used to ban you once in a while. When she was moderating this forum you would argue with her as you are with me. You were wrong but were stubborn about it and the only way she could get you to shut up was to ban you for a week. I remember that very well. Like I said earlier, I've been reading these forums for about 8 years now, not posting then but reading and I remember the fights you two got into. Yes, that's right everyone... your beloved Rusty Trichome used to get himself banned by a moderater because he wouldn't listen to her.


"and you slam my advise as unreliable and offer no facts to back your accusations."

Let's take rootrot for example. You say that you can smell rootrot when you first open your grow room door. There's a couple problems with this. First is that you say this is noticeable when it's summer, hot and humid. What you're referring to is the fact that Arizona and similar areas have only about ten percent humidity, but then in summer the days heat up to well over 100F and you'll get a monsoon rain. When the rain is done you get high humidity. This combination of high heat and moisture cause bacteria to grow like crazy. Odor-producing bacteria. This is the odor you smell combined with high heat and high humidity, this is bound to create odors. For you to be able to smell rotting roots that are buried in potting soil, you must have the nose of a drug-sniffing dog. I doubt that's the case which means it's not rootrot you're able to smell. How you come to the conclusion that you have rootrot when apparently your plants are fine, as you keep asserting (growing in desert heat and all), then I really doubt if you have root rot. Pretty simple.

You got upset saying that I was basically accusing you of poor math skills. It's your concept, you analogy, that's was the problem. I didn't say a word about your math. But you're confused. And your grammar is poor. But that's another trifling issue. Go ahead and complain to the mods. I'm finished with this forum for a while. Or maybe I'll just block your name. That's good too.

We all know RT for who he is. I've battled him, too and yes, he is not above the occasional personal attack, but nor am I and neither are you. Frankly, I appreciate his straight up approach to discussion.

At the end of the day you are cluttering up someone else's grow log. Give it a rest now.

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Originally Posted by bigsby

We all know RT for who he is. I've battled him, too and yes, he is not above the occasional personal attack, but nor am I and neither are you. Frankly, I appreciate his straight up approach to discussion.

At the end of the day you are cluttering up someone else's grow log. Give it a rest now.

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really? how much time does one devote to personal attacks and what purpose would it serve to become so intelligent that ignorance becomes a prize. im no master grower and im no crybaby either, correct me if you will, ill just get smarter either way:thumbsup: although rt has a way of keeping people on their toes, its just not my way of thinking. whateva:cool: all this aside i just dont have much time for all this endless pissing and moaning. shit there went another wasted minute of life...countdown to death.:(

budbudding...like I mentioned in your rep, sorry.

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Again...your info is wrong.
Granted, I've been banned a few times...all but one for fighting in the politics forum. One for growing forums, I believe. Never for ANY bad info.

Speaking of bad info, I've noticed that you pimp all sorts of info that you evidently don't research. For starters...wasn't it in this thread you were trying to get a member to not add calcium when adding phosphorous...because the phosphorous binds with the calcium and each are degraded...or something along those lines? Gee how do the hydro guy's add calcium in with their flowering nutes? And why are the major nutrient companies not aware of this incredible fact...? :wtf:
For your future reference, calcium binds over time with salts, period. Was going to let your shit slide, as it isn't all that damaging. (if you don't count the misleading of the membership unnecessarily) But if you'd like to push the issue, start a thread, I'll be there shortly. I'm pretty sure I remember that there were a few quotes of yours we can discuss. I'll dig some up if you'd like.

Your impression of me telling everyone they've got a ph issue or root rot is laughable, and again inaccurate. There may be spells of plant problems leaning that way, but never would I offer bogus advise, especially for those I'm here to help. (unike the occational member that blows through to start shit, parrot bad info, and leave) And usually it's me asking for the OP to fill-out the troubleshooting form rather than do any guessing, unlike others that like to play guessing games with other's meds.
Do I get a satisfaction when I help others...? You bet. But I hardly think it makes me a "somebody". So in my book, your 'stroking my ego' statement is again, garbage. Would I prefer not to have guy's like you blowing smoke up everyone's ass rather than someone that knows their limitations and doesn't try to bullshit their way to an imagined 'higher' standing on CanCom? Hardly.

And gee...thanks for diagnosing the moldy smell issues for me, but I was refering to the used pots of soil in my growroom, not my flowering rootballs. You see, I flower in an outdoor shed that doubles as my garden storage area. Once the pot's aren't sitting under the lights and the fan's aren't hitting 'em, the soil can stay damp for a week or two. Again, your insight is lacking, yet shows a preponderance twords making shit up as you go along.

If you can't do math, I guess we have nothing to discuss on that level.
But to re-state what I said...If the instructions are 1 tsp per gallon of water per week, in order to feed with every watering (likely a maximum of 3 times weekly during the winter) you would have to split the 1 tsp per week into 3 equal parts, per gallon. (1/3 tsp per gallon per feeding) Twas an example of the differences between weekly feeding and feeding with every watering. Nothing more, nothing less. Did I say feeding with every watering is no good? I don't think so. But I did add the reason(s) I don't do it myself. Same with most of the responses I offer in here.

Start another thread if you'd like to continue this. :jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by MEDEDCANNABIS

really? how much time does one devote to personal attacks and what purpose would it serve to become so intelligent that ignorance becomes a prize. im no master grower and im no crybaby either, correct me if you will, ill just get smarter either way:thumbsup: although rt has a way of keeping people on their toes, its just not my way of thinking. whateva:cool: all this aside i just dont have much time for all this endless pissing and moaning. shit there went another wasted minute of life...countdown to death.:(

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Amazing and hilarious. You just question the rational and intelligence of engaging in personal attacks but in the next breath you did just what you were railing against. Well done. I'm very impressed.

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Originally Posted by bigsby

Amazing and hilarious. You just question the rational and intelligence of engaging in personal attacks but in the next breath you did just what you were railing against. Well done. I'm very impressed.

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i wasnt railing to anyone as there many personalties here. i just dont see the need for relentless insults without guidance. and surely the need for standards is not without merit......:D i just did again didnt i:thumbsup: