Tancredo moves within 4 points of Hickenlooper
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Originally Posted by HighPopalorum
You're making the rest of us look bad...
I'm as strong a 2A defender as anyone, but not when it comes to explosive munitions, artillery and even some very large-caliber automatic weapons. I believe we can certainly maintain a well-armed militia without private ownership of these things or of other advanced weapon systems like missiles, drones and aircraft-based weapons platforms. The answer is not to arm ourselves with "at least" as much firepower as the federal government, but to systematically disarm our government (literally as well as through legislation circumscribing activities) so that it no longer poses a threat to our people. A good start would be downsizing the military, ending the practice of state executions, enshrining electronic privacy in the Const, prohibiting torture of U.S. citizens (if not everyone), and continued judicial action to strike down onerous state and city gun control initiatives. Your suggestion that Americans arm themselves as we arm our government is foolish.
How has that systematic disarmament of the government been working for you? Seen any FBI or DEA agents forswear the use of full-autos lately? Think that's likely? Ask Randy Weaver. You are at least as naive as I am foolish.
Tancredo moves within 4 points of Hickenlooper
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Originally Posted by wkhey4
Ask GWB how much he loves Ralph Nader.
Because of those wasted votes we got GWB and the beginning of the end as we knew it in this country. ;)
I assure you that if I were to stop voting libertarian (which ain't gonna happen at this late date), there is absolutely no possibility that my vote would EVER be cast in favor of anyone that you would ever vote for, so it is in your best interests for me and most like me to continue "wasting" our votes in such a principled fashion.
Tancredo moves within 4 points of Hickenlooper
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Originally Posted by wkhey4
Make a statement and waste a vote. Sad.
He's voting libertarian. Otherwise he would (I assume) be voting for Tancredo and Buck. It isn't a vote wasted, but a vote gained by Bennet and Hick. He's absolutely correct when he says it's in our best interest.
Tancredo moves within 4 points of Hickenlooper
Tancredo moves within 4 points of Hickenlooper
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Originally Posted by HighPopalorum
He's voting libertarian. Otherwise he would (I assume) be voting for Tancredo and Buck. It isn't a vote wasted, but a vote gained by Bennet and Hick. He's absolutely correct when he says it's in our best interest.
Your assumption is correct, I think, although I don't know if I could hold my nose tight enough to vote for either, but especially Buck. Aside from the obvious authoritarian streak present in most current Republicans, I cannot see myself voting for ex-D.A./ Law enforcement. I don't believe, however, that it is at all obvious that a libertarian would vote Republican if forced to choose between the "major parties." If Republicans were actually in favor of smaller govt., maybe, but they aren't. I think the last one was Goldwater, at least on a national level. And if the Democrats were actually concerned about civil liberties, maybe, but they aren't. I firmly believe that the greatest threat to our liberty is the government itself. It has all the power no matter what party is in control (and the firepower, whether you believe it or not. I'd trust most of my neighbors with any weapon more than most govt. employees I've dealt with.) The bottom line on politics in the U.S., at least for me, is that there is, on any issue of importance to me, so little difference between the Dem and the Rep candidate as to be meaningless. I was so fed up this year that I refused to vote unless there was a libertarian candidate for a particular office, voted against the retention of every judge on the ballot, and only voted for the ballot issues you voted against (the economic/taxation/size of govt. ones, not the thinly veiled abortion one). Again, in your best interests.
Tancredo moves within 4 points of Hickenlooper
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Originally Posted by bikeTripper
Don't feel bad, you are not the only one for whom the distinction between libertarianism and anarchy is just a bit too difficult to grasp, the makers of the video are in the same boat. Funny though.
Tancredo moves within 4 points of Hickenlooper
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Originally Posted by wkhey4
Make a statement and waste a vote. Sad.
not always so. Libertarians win some local races in Colorado, so if that's his inclination...
someday I hope we see more 3rd party candidates who actually could get elected. I'm no Tancredo fan, but that race has been crazy!
Tancredo had a valid beef with the direction of his party and the candidate they were putting forward. He will take more Republican voters than the Republican! In fact, if the Democrat wasn't as strong as Hickenlooper is, I think Tancredo would have a good chance of winning.
Tancredo moves within 4 points of Hickenlooper
Tancredo moves within 4 points of Hickenlooper
Tancredo moves within 4 points of Hickenlooper
I'm going to have to register to vote so I can vote against Tancredo. I guess that's one way to get jaded voters out to the polls....