Drowning in conflicting plant graphs - help! (LED)

these are the early ones without the canopy level light penetration although in all fairness they seem to be doing well.

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those are hps, those lights are crazy looking.
that grow is so nice.

and that is old tehnology really, those types of induction lights started with tesla two centuries ago!

The light penetration is the issue if you dont want to grow SCROG or similar hence why my guys new units look 10x brighter than that and easily pentetrate the canopy. Have jsut seen a picture my guy sent me of some untis he build for vegging in holland, he custom built this for them. The LED bars are 4ft long and have 1watt diodies with 20leds built into them, in my 8ft room i will have two bars on each side, maybe four, from canopy level up towards bud level. All with 660 diodies. and then two induction lights above. i think the light spectrum and quality of light i will create will create buds that are the next level.

A good question is how much light per square foot is beneficial before you should expand your area. There would be an answer for all different kinds of lights.
For nice growth. No popcorn buds.

Again traditional lighting measurements. Its hard to measure light per square foot if I am planning on utilising horizontal supplemental lighting. Saturated is the word I am happy with. A continuous spectrum above with horizontal LED lighting dialled in at high reds 660, 630. 20-40 leds at 1w running on a 4ft long strip. one at canopy level, one at mid level i think and until its setup and I get a light meter to it who knows? I think a setup like that as proven in the LED GROW SHOW would be incredible and put to shame traditional growing methods. Give me six weeks and I will have that room set up. Need to crop and move first!

yeah. To answer my question it depends on strain and growing style.

Moving sucks @ss. I feel your pain. In the end it is some how therapeutic but so much stress... Hiring movers is the only way to go.

Can you share specs / cost of your induction light? Khyber, any input here appreciated too.

You should start building it. I would love to see something built even a simple one. Post here what you are doing and I will build one after you.

Drowning in conflicting plant graphs
Is UV at all helpfull I have heard things about it. Would a reptile light be beneficial?
Does it fall in anywhere on another graph.

"Surely more light equals ore bud and more healthy plants."

Up until you saturate the leaf surface and start causing light bleaching. I'm already doing that with my LED lights, so much pure power in such a small area it's burning plants unless I keep them almost a foot away from the panel.

Turns out mrnobody knows the same guy I do, Muddy out in the UK. :) Yes, I'm known all across the globe.

Enjoy those induction (not the sulphur plasma I thought you were talking about) lights from him, I think those are the news ones using my new phosphor blend made for large pitches and golf courses. They'll pump mad output, and eventually we'll be using QD phosphor tech which will just make it so much better. And eventually, as I said, combining HID technology with induction technology will make HIDs that you won't have to change for years. But that's still in development, and still waiting on the right materials to be discovered.

i noticed that when i first got one of the UFO 90watt last year. Had eight blueberry growing underneath it but they turned into bushes and had to donate to a new home. they grew out to over 9ft tall and yeiled over 9oz per plant.

I have a question. If you could tie up lets say 50hps in one small room, a room where you would normally use lets say 2 x 600watt. if there was no heat coming off the lights would the plants like it? Would they like it better than, 2 or 4 or 6 etc or would they jsut crash? Has anyone experience of overfilling a room with light, real proper overkill and what are the results in comparison?