Two Horses

Many people that are sick and in the last days of their lives turn to religion and spitiuality. Especially those who rely on the plant allies. Spiritualty is not a critch, but an integral part of the human psyche.

Anyone who has had the DMY experience knows this, and most who have had exxperiences with the are in agreement. I am nt suppoorting the political side of religion at all, but the value of spirituality and its corelation with the human condition cannot be understated,. As we are predisposed to the spirit of the plant allies, so are we predisposed to ponder our origins and power that is beyond out three dimensions.

Every culture on this planet is rich with myth and legend. It is who we are. Most people have some sort of philosophy and it is plain that the human beast benefits from this. Whether it is prayer, stalking, dancing, meditation, fasting, chanting, or walking on hot coals the human spirit is fortified by spiritualism.

I honor all types of philosophy, because I see that we have receptors for faith and spiritualism that can be switched "on" by certain acts of faith, as well as certain natural alkaloids. It really matters not the reoute by which a person comes by a philosophy, but the value to human heath, well being, satisfaction amd competeness is irrefutable.

It may not be for everyone, just like cannabis can not help everyone. But the vast majority of people benefit from spiritual exploration.

There are plant allies that are physical healers and those that are spiitual healers, and those that are both. Marijuana is more physical than spiritual. Peyoteand Juachuma are more spiritual than physical. The magic mushroom is entirely spiritual.

Juachuma (San Pedro) is legal and is proof positive of the power of spirituality....the triad of power that is plain to the spiritually enlightened. The architectural design of the DNA molecule, and its correlation between the triad. The spirit supports the mind, the mind supports then physical body, and then body in turn supports the spirit and the mind. Once the trial is acknowledged, a person can dwell and draw power from the physical as well as the spiritual and mental.

So it is very real...At least it is real to those who have learned to harness it. It promootes health, happiness, and physical strenth. It has been used for centuries to gain power for both good and evil. It is stil being used to this day for physical and mental health and its effectiveness can not be refuted. Many more people use it than cannabis, and a vast majority of cannabis users employ spirituality in their arsemnal to combat physical disease as well as mental unrest.

I invite any of you to experience the plant ally of Juachuma in an effort to enlighten you. If it does not reveal the spiritual world in all its glory then you may be one of the few that are unable to experience that level of spirituality. I would expect that at the very least it wil be a beutiful and enlightening experience that will give you many tools that will benefit you in your life. WHether you percieve these gifts as coming from the spiritual world or not is irrelevant, as long as you can reap the benefits.

Cut a 6" piece off, remove the stickers(easy),skin it and eat everything but the core. Tastes horrible but it IS awesome. You can buy it legally too. You might get something like "don't let your dog eat it" but you can buy it.It is the Peyote of South America. Cannabis reacts well with it too. Like fungi puts you in touch w/ the mother,Pedro will put you in touch with yourself. Oh yeah and you can drink ANYBODY under the table if you chose to do so. Thought you might like that since you aren't religious but the plant is sacred. Treat it as so. If you're interested email me,I can tell you exactly where to get it besides e-bay.

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Originally Posted by chance942

Cut a 6" piece off, remove the stickers(easy),skin it and eat everything but the core. Tastes horrible but it IS awesome. You can buy it legally too. You might get something like "don't let your dog eat it" but you can buy it.It is the Peyote of South America. Cannabis reacts well with it too. Like fungi puts you in touch w/ the mother,Pedro will put you in touch with yourself. Oh yeah and you can drink ANYBODY under the table if you chose to do so. Thought you might like that since you aren't religious but the plant is sacred. Treat it as so. If you're interested email me,I can tell you exactly where to get it besides e-bay.

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And I can get it for you too. I grow 'em. I make a drink out of them.
You can fiind them at the Osuna Nursery, the cactus farm in Las Lunas, and many paces in Artizona. It is the big momma healer and will set you straight both physically and mentally.

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Originally Posted by coolslayer

Time to move.

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no doubt. :stoned: I'm considering checking out NM or CO in a few years. This part of the state is beautiful but it sux not being able to grow here.

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Originally Posted by bedrockbob

And I can get it for you too. I grow 'em. I make a drink out of them.
You can fiind them at the Osuna Nursery, the cactus farm in Las Lunas, and many paces in Artizona. It is the big momma healer and will set you straight both physically and mentally.

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Wild Bill's,Bob? I believe that is what the place in TorC is called. Does the drink taste any better than eating the flesh? I guess you could add something or another. Ah Bob don't tell me that yer not gonna talk to me anymore because I rounded up them pricklies and threw em away.:) I like talkin to you so hopefully you're just busy. Do you think our Indian population uses S.P.? I've heard rumors of the dwindling Peyote supply so I was just wondering what your take on that may be. Over the summer I did a lot of landscaping for a lady who's husband works through NMSU w/ the Mescalero Apaches and she had some Peyote on her window seal AND a huge Pete outside on the porch. She had no idea what it was and was very intrigued when I told her. I don't know much more about the rest but I've heard that all cacti are psychoactive in some form. Hope that green is doin you well my friend. Later on.

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Originally Posted by chance942

Wild Bill's,Bob? I believe that is what the place in TorC is called. Does the drink taste any better than eating the flesh? I guess you could add something or another. Ah Bob don't tell me that yer not gonna talk to me anymore because I rounded up them pricklies and threw em away.:) I like talkin to you so hopefully you're just busy. Do you think our Indian population uses S.P.? I've heard rumors of the dwindling Peyote supply so I was just wondering what your take on that may be. Over the summer I did a lot of landscaping for a lady who's husband works through NMSU w/ the Mescalero Apaches and she had some Peyote on her window seal AND a huge Pete outside on the porch. She had no idea what it was and was very intrigued when I told her. I don't know much more about the rest but I've heard that all cacti are psychoactive in some form. Hope that green is doin you well my friend. Later on.

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Why the heck would I care about prickly pears? Cactus clone easily and there are plenty, I have burned the thorns off the things with a propane burner to get the cattle to eat them.

The drink is pretty bad but you just get it down and its over. You use lemons to lower the Ph (alkaloids are soluable at about 5.5) and it makes it taste better too.

Peyote is amost extinct in the wild. More in Taos than around Falcon Lake. You can certainly get a full on psychedelic experience with peyote and that is tough with SP unless it is refined or something. No other plant ally has been as healing for me. I do one ceremony a year and I feel that it is helping me withstand and be strong. I am a better, happier person for it.

I have a bunch of cactus and I am going to be selling them soon. I have spent the last three years growing out enough to market and it is time. I have them from 5' tall and many branched, to 6" tall and rooted. They clone very easlily and are a cinch to grow. A single 5 gallon pot with 4-6 heads on it will provide a ceremony twice a year as well as new clones.

They are completely legal and they are powerful. Effects last a full 12 hours or more and are much different than Peyote, which is almost entirely mescaline. Possessing and selling the cactus are completely legal, but you cant sell juice. I believe that dried cactus, fresh cut cactus, and cactus pills with dried powder inside are legal too.

There are a bunch of cactus that have active alkaloids. There are a bunch that have some poison alkaloids too. Dona Ana (Corypantha macromeris) is a big time narcotic and will knock you out for a couple of days like ruphenol. It grows all over New Mexico.

Then there is DMT! A whole different ballgame! Binary spirits, Ayahuasca, Ayahuasca Borealis, Pharmahuasca, smoking phalaris extract, etc. etc. And New Mexico set another precedent here in Santa Fe with the 1999 ruling on the Church UDV and their right to use ceremonial ayahuasca. So there is another very good healer of both mind and spirit that is available to us to experience!

I highly reccommend any of these to anyone. Google them. Do your research. You will find that they are powerful healers of body and spirit and have been used for that for centuries. They are legal, and they are completely safe in every way (from what I have been able to find out and from my personal experience).

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Originally Posted by ForgetClassC

Yeah the God part made it seem cheesy, like something you hear on the Christian Channel or something with the old nuns.

-C

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Nice dog.

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Originally Posted by bedrockbob

Why the heck would I care about prickly pears? Cactus clone easily and there are plenty, I have burned the thorns off the things with a propane burner to get the cattle to eat them.

The drink is pretty bad but you just get it down and its over. You use lemons to lower the Ph (alkaloids are soluable at about 5.5) and it makes it taste better too.

Peyote is amost extinct in the wild. More in Taos than around Falcon Lake. You can certainly get a full on psychedelic experience with peyote and that is tough with SP unless it is refined or something. No other plant ally has been as healing for me. I do one ceremony a year and I feel that it is helping me withstand and be strong. I am a better, happier person for it.

I have a bunch of cactus and I am going to be selling them soon. I have spent the last three years growing out enough to market and it is time. I have them from 5' tall and many branched, to 6" tall and rooted. They clone very easlily and are a cinch to grow. A single 5 gallon pot with 4-6 heads on it will provide a ceremony twice a year as well as new clones.

They are completely legal and they are powerful. Effects last a full 12 hours or more and are much different than Peyote, which is almost entirely mescaline. Possessing and selling the cactus are completely legal, but you cant sell juice. I believe that dried cactus, fresh cut cactus, and cactus pills with dried powder inside are legal too.

There are a bunch of cactus that have active alkaloids. There are a bunch that have some poison alkaloids too. Dona Ana (Corypantha macromeris) is a big time narcotic and will knock you out for a couple of days like ruphenol. It grows all over New Mexico.

Then there is DMT! A whole different ballgame! Binary spirits, Ayahuasca, Ayahuasca Borealis, Pharmahuasca, smoking phalaris extract, etc. etc. And New Mexico set another precedent here in Santa Fe with the 1999 ruling on the Church UDV and their right to use ceremonial ayahuasca. So there is another very good healer of both mind and spirit that is available to us to experience!

I highly reccommend any of these to anyone. Google them. Do your research. You will find that they are powerful healers of body and spirit and have been used for that for centuries. They are legal, and they are completely safe in every way (from what I have been able to find out and from my personal experience).

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I wrote you some pretty personal stuff to no response,must be that missing bubble or the schizo! Haha no but I have used Pete many times and I totally agree. I have never tried Peyote or the others you mentioned. Yeah it is powerful! One time that I ate it I couldn't stop laughing,like a person's first real MJ high,I was giggling and just friggin couldn't stop! This punk ass I knew saw me and was like you really can't hold your liquor OR brick stick. I said yeah you're damn right buddy that is ALL I'm under the influence right now. That was early during my first time. The rest of the night I stuck w/ my trip buddy and we both soon realized how much respect the plant deserved. I had bought it in TorC,3 stalks in a pot bout 18" each. The rest was consumed in a much different way. As was the fungi. For quite awhile it was my DOC since I pulled them from a pusher for a ridiculously low price. Crack me,I bleed blue Mexicans. There was a time of oh 2 months or so that I almost always had a "dip" cap in my lip. Everybody I knew was ever wiser as I dipped cope snuff constantly. Damn that shit is expensive now. Grizzly snuff isn't bad and I honestly prefer it over cope.Today I bought 10 cans for $23,sweeeeeeeeeeeet. Not at Sam's or Costco either. Speaking of which I got a hankering. Later on Bob

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Originally Posted by coolslayer

"Religion is the opiate of the masses"

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Too funny, the guy who whines about the OPs religion-tainted post, has no problem when it comes to "preaching" his own particular beliefs. The hypocrisy is hilarious. :D

Me? I believe in "live and let live". It ain't religion, just common courtesy. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by chance942

There was a time of oh 2 months or so that I almost always had a "dip" cap in my lip. Everybody I knew was ever wiser as I dipped cope snuff constantly. Damn that shit is expensive now. Grizzly snuff isn't bad and I honestly prefer it over cope.Today I bought 10 cans for $23,sweeeeeeeeeeeet. Not at Sam's or Costco either. Speaking of which I got a hankering. Later on Bob

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Chance, I chewed Cope for about 25 years or so. Man I couldnt be without a mouthful. That stuff is deadly.

I quit tobacco when I was about 35 years old. I was tobacco free for 7 years. I was in Mexico scuba diving one year. When I came up out of the water I smelled the boat captain's Cuban cigar. I thought I could enjoy a few puffs of that beutiful thick smoke and not relapse. Within a year I was smoking 8 Macanudo Ascots a day. I couldnt hunt elk smelling like cigars so I started chewing Cope again. By the time it was all over I had it in my mouth all the time and I had lost 25 lbs.

I finally am tobacco free again for the last six months. It really made the PTSD worse beacause t is such a powerful poison and stimulant. I would find myself in a little situation, suck up a big swallow of Kentucky's finest tobacco juice, and three minutes later the fight was on! It is like being on a constant nicotine drip. Need reinforcement? Just swallow!

Sleep and appetite are my two main problems. Cannabis helps both and tobacco makes them worse. What a drug though! I wish I had a big wad of Copenhagen right now. I reach for my can 20 times a day still!