Mind expansion society

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Originally Posted by Gandalf_The_Grey

What we're talking about here is not being "on drugs". They are drugs in the literal sense of course, but there's a difference between drug abuse to get high, and sacred plants that have been used for thousands of years for spiritual insight.
These things (WHICH WE WON'T SPECIFY FOR THE SAKE OF KEEPING THIS THREAD OPEN!) allow one to consider perceptions, thoughts, ideas that you would never have considered before. They are teachers in and of themselves.

After I had one particularily possitive journey, I came to a very significant realization that sticks with me to this day. Before that journey I was very self-limiting, I didn't believe in myself, in my ability to accomplish more than mediocracy. But when I went on that journey, I realized that I cannot fail unless I quit, and that I have amazing potential within me that can accomplish more than I ever dreamed if I only learn how to tap into it. Since that day, I have worked tirelessly to figure out how to tap into that potential, and in large part I have. I know I can accomplish so much more, and I have great plans in place. My knowledge has expanded, my drive has furthered, my devotion to meditations has strengthened. The whole point here is; I realized my true potential.

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DMT???

As a frequent user of various psychedelic substances, I would not join or support the society. I think the only benefit of psychedelics comes from comparing and analyzing your experiences with those of reality, which leads to break through in many disciplines of academia and personal wellbeing. If everyone undergoes such experiences in a society, then no reality can be defined because there will not be comparison to a natural state for the experiences to be compared to. If someone can explain how a greater good for the society (not the tripping society) can be achieved, then I will support this idea. If no greater good is achieved, then I think it can be assumed that the support from everyone on here is because they liking tripping, and think it would be self satisfying to live in a world dedicated to tripping (I know it would for me).

Again, I'm an experienced user of the most glorious and beautiful substances known to man, so please don't pass off my post as an anti-hallucinogen post.

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Originally Posted by jagarr

yeah i figured that. i always RTFFAQ but then i thought well if its a problem then the whole thread would've been deleted since its about other substances... just because ya don't name 'em doesn't mean the mods don't know whats up, and doublespeak semantics like that seem way out of place on a marijuana message board =p

fake edit: and the link i linked emphasizes first and foremost responsible use, harm reduction and substance education just like yall do here :D

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I know the mods may be familiar with what I am talking about, however, I wasn't talking about substances in particular, rather, I was talking about the psychedelic experience as a whole- that includes pot.

And Coledog855- I recognize what you're saying about the balance between 'normal' conscious states and psychedelic mindsets, and I agree with you on that part. No one should go through life constantly having major psychedelic experiences; rather, it's best to experiement a few times with a substance and just leave it. Whatever insight you gain from the experience is usually personal, anyway, with the exception of a few experiences (at least that's the way it has always been with me).

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Originally Posted by Purple Banana

Wouldn't it be neat to have a society, like an organization (not too big, though) with people who are genuinely interested in just seeing the psychological and physical effects of different herbs and drugs just for sensory experience? People who honestly respect substances, know their limits, and who were generally very curious? I've always been like that, and I know only a few people who embrace that same attitude as well.

Would you join this organization if it existed?

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By simply asking this question, I'm able to observe that you're ready.....Now, step into my house...Be not afraid of what you may experience....

:giggity: :wtf4: :yippee: :chainsaw: :tin foil hat: and don't mind them. They jus' trippin'.

Its a great idea! I would definitely join.
And about Tim Leary, do you guys maybe have any rapidshare links to his works, by that I mean are there any E-books out there?

And I know for a fact, that alot of people`s perception and logic changes after they experienced certain trips, my friend who was very close minded and stubborn...really changed after he tried pot. He said it was unbelievable...before he thought it was just an abusive activity, smoking and all that...but he saw that me and the guys would just explore and have fun, we just smoke btw...

I learned something weird about my mind from weed. This is kind of hard to explain but I'll try. As I was thinking, I wondered about where your thoughts came from. They had to originate somewhere, and my conscious mind certainly wasn't making them. As I traced my thoughts through my mind, I came to a barrier of sorts. It is almost like my thoughts are like water coming through a sieve. Like that sieve is the barrier between my unconscious and conscious mind. I talked to my Aunt about it who is into meditation and stuff, and she said that that is exactly what she had discovered through meditation. You can't help what comes through that barrier, but you can squash it before it gets to far. That is how I learned to deal with depression.

Did that make sense? Psychedelics certainly help you learn more about yourself. Anyone that says otherwise just hasn't tried it, or hasn't gone into it with the right mindset. Weed won't teach you things, but it certainly helps you discover things when you search for them.

Mohksha, I`m definitely on your side.
It`s like you discover your unconscious part of your self.
We are born in a world where we learn from the environment and everything that was proven and developed by past generations, but there are still limits to understanding many things. The Brain, Death, Unlimited Strength, Cognition, Multiple Dimensions, are just few subjects which are very blurry in our understanding, a little discovery in any field can change the whole perspective on life and our view on life.
The best thing to do in this world is to keep your mind open and understand that somethings are beyond our capability to comprehend to due our limited knowledge, but of course, we must keep our daily life also based on what we know and live it how you want to live it.
I think weed lets you open the mind a bit.
Many people see life linearly, by that I mean that they just follow certain guidelines, believe that thats how they should live it and anything beyond their standards is weird, or crazy or stupid.

I'm really loving where this thread is going; you guys have got a great bunch of theories and philosophies :)

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Originally Posted by Purple Banana

Think of it as wavelengths of energy in the form of light. Humans can see the standard ROYGBIV spectrum, and mind expansion is allowing us to see other wavelengths that normal visual processes don't allow.

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Are these drugs allowing us to see other wavelengths or just altering our standard ROYGBIV spectrum?

It was really more of an analogy; I don't think substances can actually allow us to sense different wavelengths of light- it was more of an analogy to the subconscious, I guess?