wtf happened before the big bang?

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Originally Posted by Oneironaut

What do you mean, before the Big Bang? The Big Bang was the moment that time was created. There is no "before" the beginning of time. Words like "before" and "after" only make sense within the timeline of the universe, and cease to be meaningful at the beginning point of time and (if there is one) the end point of time. It's like asking what's further south than the South Pole. Nothing. That's as far south as it goes.


Current theory...for a small minority of scientists. It's a possibility, but it's now thought more likely that the universe will just continue to expand without end.

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Well if their was a big bang and thats when creation happened then isnt their something before that to make the big bang? :stoned:

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But how did the creator get here?

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Check this out:

If God created the universe, then who created God?


I think this is an incredible statement :


".....Also, if there is no cause, there is no explanation why this particular universe appeared at a particular time, nor why it was a universe and not, say, a banana or cat which appeared. This universe canâ??t have any properties to explain its preferential coming into existence, because it wouldnâ??t have any properties until it actually came into existence."

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Originally Posted by natureisawesome

But If we look at the evidence according to God's word, things tend to be exactly where they should be a lot more.


The sun is just the right distance from the earth.
The earth has just the right temperature for life (with modest variations).
The planet has just the right gravity.
The earth holds a incredibly sufficient system to support plants and life and recycle energy.
The earth spins around the sun at just the right distance, a little bit farther and we'd freeze, a little bit closer and we'd burn. It also spins at just the right speed.
The geological record fits remarkebly well with the theory of a worldwide flood, so do fossils.
The earth has the right balance of gases in the atmosphere, something incredibly important for animals to survive and flourish.
The earth is full of beutiful incredible plants and animals.
The earth is full of delicious plants and vegetables, abeit that we must work hard to grow because of God's judgement on mankind.

And if that's not enough for you (I'm sure I could go on), how does it feel to know you really are in the center of the universe?

Our galaxy--at the center of the universe after all!


Stop listening to the secular clergy in the classroom, and open your eyes to the truth.

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Doesn't it also make sense that the proper environmental conditions happened to arise, and life leapfrogged itself to accommodate to these conditions, adapting when said conditions changed, leaving us (all life on this planet) where we are today?

Just because something is easier to believe doesn't mean that it's right. For every piece of information pointing to this or that theory, there is something indicating against it. There are no absolutes when it comes to the knowledge of the creation of the universe (despite what you or anyone else might believe), just speculations.

lol you are right earth is PERFECT for life... that's why there isn't life anywhere else we can see, because it is rare... but ya know what... rare isn't too rare in infinity ;)

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Originally Posted by natureisawesome

Check this out:

If God created the universe, then who created God?


I think this is an incredible statement :


".....Also, if there is no cause, there is no explanation why this particular universe appeared at a particular time, nor why it was a universe and not, say, a banana or cat which appeared. This universe canâ??t have any properties to explain its preferential coming into existence, because it wouldnâ??t have any properties until it actually came into existence."

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That articles answers a question with facts that can't be proven. They state that god created the universe, without any facts to back up that statement. But they do not explain who created God, they just say that god always was, without having a beginning. But everything has to have a beginning. Even if it didn't though, you could just use that same argument to say that the matter which separated after the big bang just always was.

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Originally Posted by HighTillIDie

lol you are right earth is PERFECT for life... that's why there isn't life anywhere else we can see, because it is rare... but ya know what... rare isn't too rare in infinity ;)

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OR we adapted to fit the environment that earth provided for us, and we can't live on other planets because we didn't adapt to their conditions, simply because that's not where we ended up.

God was really bad at physics...

if he really did mean to create us all in his image, and make sure that His word was spread far and beyond, why would he create a place where only 1 planet out of an infinite number could sustain the life that would spread "the gospel"?

We are merely the product of convenience, and it's high time (haha i said High time) a lot of people realized that we aren't a big fucking deal.

It's so "ironic" that "God" put us on the only planet that could sustain life, instead of life growing on the only planet that it could inhabit.

Sheesh.

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Originally Posted by vej33

We are merely the product of convenience, and it's high time (haha i said High time) a lot of people realized that we aren't a big fucking deal.

It's so "ironic" that "God" put us on the only planet that could sustain life, instead of life growing on the only planet that it could inhabit.

Sheesh.

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WHY DON"T PEOPLE GET THIS...

NO MAGIC PEOPLE
none
zero
zilch

you are a damn animal, and your closest related species, which we share chemical, biological and behavioral traits... throws poop at one another

word fucking UP HightillIDie!!

lol i get so worked up over this stuff. i hated educational science classes, but i can't get enough of this universe information!!!!!!! XD I LOVE A GOOD DEBATE!

Besides the God stuff, people can't explain how something (everything) was created from nothing, and they can't really explain how something is truly infinite. Also, infinity (the Universe) can apparently exist with nothing in it, but if it's nothing, how can it exist? People also have no idea of what creates awareness. And of course time is something without substance, so doesn't really exist.