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So prayer is pointless then?
Pray against gods will = Satanism & Magic (assuming you successfully wish against Gods will)
Pray and it works = It was Gods will all along
Pray and it doesn't work = It was Gods will all along (zzz...)
So prayer is pointless unless you get what you pray for (against gods will!) and then you go to hell anyway.
Phew, good job I don't do a lot of Praying ;)
Wise prayer means asking to be able to see God's plan for you, asking His will to be done not yours, and for the strength/courage/knowledge to live your life well.
These requests do not ask Him to 'change' anything but us, and our ability to make good choices which will lead us on the right path.
that is a terrible terrible godawful point. it is funny how most men dont want to put a dick in their mouth until they are in prison and they realize they either do it or take a savage beating and get forced to do it. and i do believe something more powerful than we can understand exists. however i dont think it is a man in the clouds, like you seem to. the reason people turn to "him" when they otherwise wouldnt in extreme cases is because there is nothing rational they can turn to and it gives them a sense of comfort and joy. have you heard about the study that was released in the past few years testing the power of prayer. the results showed that prayer did nothing at best. in fact the subjects who were prayed for generally did worse than the ones who were not. you have your opinion let other people have theirs as well. believe what you want, but dont say stuff in a condescending knowitall tone (ie It's funny how people feel so strongly GOD doesn't exist until they need to call on him. At your toughest point in life you will call on GOD.Some of us have already did. So please put all of the GOD doesn't exist stuff to rest.) when you cant prove anything you are saying. keep an open mind, and dont assume people are wrong because they dont agree with you.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by fsunoles
if i'll go to anyone, it would be satan, if you've read the Bible, then read the Satanic Bible then look at them from an unbiased position... you'll see that Satan is misunderstood and makes way more sense than god
yea i highly doubt u called on a fuckin spagetti monster.and what about b4 south park came up with that did u call on it b4 u ever heard of it? im sure it went something like god this or that with god in there somewhere, and cursing him for u droping something on ur foot. and u can't tell me you've never cursed god b4 u know the being u think is fake made up, and if u say u never have then i'll go ahead and call u a lair now so i won't have to later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polymirize
yeah... i did that whole god thing... up until i was about 12, then, unlike most, i grew out of it, i'm a very stubborn person, all the preachers say "don't question the lord blah blah blah" what the fuck kind of a creator is that? that's like getting 6 billion puppies and abondoning them and saying "ok, run along and defend yourselves now"Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
Hey, I found out that south park didn't come up with the FSM, but they did make fun of it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
I may convert to Pastafarianism soon :p
John Lennon didnt belive in god, and he was a pretty cool dude...:jointsmile:
i've been thinking about becoming a shaker. i figure that, with only four remaining members, they are in desperate need of converts.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardcore Newbie
lmao now thats funny lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Juggalo k00kie