Menstrual Blood as fertilizer?
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Originally Posted by Raelum
Plants already have an estrogen-like hormone in them,
I'm gonna assume yer referring to phytoestrogens, which are substances that have estrogenic effects in mammals- not in plants. The meaning of estrogenic, in this context, is that these substances have effects similar to that of the estrogens in the regulation of cholesteral level and post-menopausal bone density. There is no phytoestrogenic effect upon mammal reproduction.
These are almost universally flavinoids, not steroid hormones like, say, any of the estrogens. They are not interchangeable. What you are saying is that because a steak knife can be used as a phillips screwdriver, a phillips screwdriver can be used as a steak knife.
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Originally Posted by Raelum
it is a hormone that encourages growth and the reproductive cycle.
No, flavinoids are primarily found as pigments and as components of a plant's immune system. They are not hormones. They have no signifigant effect on growth rate or pheno. Flavinoid levels are regulated by plant metabolism, not vice versa.
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Originally Posted by Raelum
By increases the hormone levels it can increase growth...
Once again, not hormones. No increase in growth rate. See above.
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Originally Posted by Raelum
Do a search on the forums, people use birth control pills in their hydroponics for the same reason.
Not if they know what they're doing. I thought that this myth dissappeared back around 1974
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Originally Posted by Raelum
I am not sure what kind of scientific evidence there is out there, but plenty of people says they noticed a difference.
There's none. Lots of scientific evidence to the contrary,though.
Plenty of people voted for W. Did'nt make it a good idea. They did it for the same reason,too...
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Originally Posted by Raelum
My suggestion would be to try it yourself and find out...
~Raelum
Kinda implies that you have'nt. Please don't state fairy tales as fact.
I don't mean to pick on ya, I just don't want this place to turn into an echo-chamber of misinformation
Menstrual Blood as fertilizer?
If your growing outside you're going to have every horny male deer,bear,dog and cat hitting that shit.
Menstrual Blood as fertilizer?
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Originally Posted by rhizome
I'm gonna assume yer referring to phytoestrogens, which are substances that have estrogenic effects in mammals- not in plants. The meaning of estrogenic, in this context, is that these substances have effects similar to that of the estrogens in the regulation of cholesteral level and post-menopausal bone density. There is no phytoestrogenic effect upon mammal reproduction.
These are almost universally flavinoids, not steroid hormones like, say, any of the estrogens. They are not interchangeable. What you are saying is that because a steak knife can be used as a phillips screwdriver, a phillips screwdriver can be used as a steak knife.
No, flavinoids are primarily found as pigments and as components of a plant's immune system. They are not hormones. They have no signifigant effect on growth rate or pheno. Flavinoid levels are regulated by plant metabolism, not vice versa.
Once again, not hormones. No increase in growth rate. See above.
Not if they know what they're doing. I thought that this myth dissappeared back around 1974
There's none. Lots of scientific evidence to the contrary,though.
Plenty of people voted for W. Did'nt make it a good idea. They did it for the same reason,too...
Kinda implies that you have'nt. Please don't state fairy tales as fact.
I don't mean to pick on ya, I just don't want this place to turn into an echo-chamber of misinformation
Well if i made anything sound like a fact, sorry to mislead anyone. However, i have read tons of sites and forums post (including ones on this forum) about how birth control pills increase growth and no one has said that it doesnt work (well, very few in number). Since both birth control pills and menstrual blood contain the same two hormones, i made the assumption that they are interchangeable. I also found several references supporting that they are... (the most notable being a test using a tomato plant and birth control pills, the results were more growth)
You appear to be well informed on this topic, but i can honestly say majority of the post, sites, and articles i have read support that this does in fact work.
and since i havent tried it myself, I was just posting the general consensus.
maybe there is alot of mis-information out there, and out of my own ignorance i am now spreading it further :( but until i can test it myself i cant be sure...
~Raelum
Menstrual Blood as fertilizer?
guess it would make sense that this is just a myth, and people choose to believe it without evidence to support it... wouldnt be the first time. thanks for bringing this to my attention... i have been enlightened :) perhaps this should be added to a sticky to prevent new growers from falling into the same mythological hole.
Menstrual Blood as fertilizer?
Trust me, folks- if estrogens increased growth rate, every corn, potato, soy, etc. field in the world would be treated. You'd see big ol' tankers of estrogens cruising through Kansas. Agway would carry it. Farm workers would not have facial hair.
Cannabis is just a plant in every aspect but the legal. There's no black magic involved.
Menstrual Blood as fertilizer?
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Originally Posted by Earthy Dank
Blood is a good fertilizer. Thats what blood meal is... dried cow blood. Why the fuck would you use Menstrual Blood do you have a good supply or something...:wtf:
amen... you can get a 5lb bag of MG brand blood meal at lowe's/home depot or anywhere like that.. why fuck around wringing out tampons and shit? ickyyyyy :P
Menstrual Blood as fertilizer?
You wouldn't get me to doing it for all the tea in China. Whatever happened to civilization?
The only thing I've EVER heard about birth control pills is the myth that soaking seeds in them will make them female. I've never heard, read OR seen anyone use it, mention it, or even think about using menstral blood (or estrogen itself) to grow pot. And I think I can safely say I've done my share of study. ;)
PS....which doesn't mean it isn't done......just that I've never heard of it. :D
Menstrual Blood as fertilizer?
Snow-white.nl - BIRTH CONTROL PILLS - Weed Cannabis Grass Pot Marihuana Marijuana Hemp Seed Seeds
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http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-gro...rol-pills.html
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well basically im surprised you havent heard of it, i came across it on my first day researching hydroponics... still just a myth tho (until proven otherwise)
i dont think there is anything left to contribute to this topic unless someone can find a scientific article explaining why this cant possibly work, or vice versa. rhizome, could probably find one.
~Raelum
Menstrual Blood as fertilizer?
WEll I HAVE NOW!! Thanks for the articles....I will indeed read up! :)
Menstrual Blood as fertilizer?
Well I just read them all.....peoples' opinions only as you said. Even the reference in the cultivation link was vague and "maybe" You are right.....I see no definitive testing or complete record keeping etc. I don't tend to follow stuff like that so it must have gone right by me and I didn't notice. :D
