â??Damascus Nancyâ?? And Unlawful Diplomacy

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Originally Posted by fishman3811

P4B What about all the other members of congress who have gone to other countries for diplomacy reasons.Example congressman Danny Haster who went to Columbia to tell them how to handle drug dealers while Clinton was in office,he went on his own not because Clinton told him to go.

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He overstepped his power even worse than Pelosi and SHOULD have been held accountable for it!

Contact with Colombian government
In 1997, Hastert led a Congressional delegation to Colombia. At that time, the administration of President Bill Clinton was concerned about human rights abuses by the Colombian military. Hastert urged Colombian officials to "bypass the U.S. executive branch and communicate directly with Congress."[11]
Dennis Hastert - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If these people want to travel a bit for their precious photo ops to friendly countries fine.....if their mission is against the Executive Branches foreign policy that's bullshit. Pelosi's visit was bullshit along with your examples.

During the time of Hasterts trip, the nation was way to busy wondering if Bill had dipped a Presidential cigar and the dems didn't want to give the impression that they were creating a distraction. Just more partisan bullshit!

Have a good one!:s4:

VIDEO: A member of Pelosiâ??s delegation knows a BS smear when heâ??s sees it. The Syria visit was done with knowledge of the White House and the cooperation of the State Department.


VIDEO: Republican Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) defends Nancy Pelosiâ??s trip to Syria.

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

exacty what law is Bush/Cheney in violation of? Wait! You could actually create a new thread to address that........this ones about Pelosis' crimes against the fine people of the United States.:D

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What a hypocrite you are .... there are plenty of crimes the illegitimate bush regime has committed that you completely ignore or disregard .... I could post many examples .... but I'll keep it simple with one .....

.... this is more for our viewers at home ....
I posted this awhile back and it wasn't addressed check it out

You get the picture folks this is one of many crimes committed by this illegitimate regime.

:noel:

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Originally Posted by GrowRebel

VIDEO: A member of Pelosiâ??s delegation knows a BS smear when heâ??s sees it. The Syria visit was done with knowledge of the White House and the cooperation of the State Department.


VIDEO: Republican Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA) defends Nancy Pelosiâ??s trip to Syria.

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Yeah, a mouthpiece for bush, liebermans main job. How anyone could not see throught this clown is amazing. He only wore the Democratic label because his home state voted mostly democratic, he was a republican in sheeps clothing. I've disliked Lieberman ever since he stuck up for Bushs' invasion of Iraq. It was republicans voting for him in his home state that put him in office defeating Ned Lamont, a real tradgedy for the democrats. This guy is a real scumbag, just to listen to him snivel makes my stomach turn.

I don't neccessarily agree with the way Pelosi did what she did, but I can understand it. The Bush administration's attempts at diplomacy have been ridiculous. He acts like the rest of the world is little children and he's the (unfit)parent. "I'm the boss, so do what I say, god damn it, or you'll be punished! Fuck off if you don't agree."

What Bush has done to our image abroad can be compared to what Katrina did to New Orleans. Whoever is in power after 2008 will have a lot of international damage control to do. The Dems sense that they're going to be the ones doing it, so they're just starting early.

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Originally Posted by GrowRebel

The Syria visit was done with knowledge of the White House and the cooperation of the State Department.

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's scheduled visit to Syria tomorrow drew strong criticism again from the White House today, despite the fact that three Republican congressmen went to Syria yesterday.
"It sends the wrong message to have high level U.S. officials go over there to have photo opportunities that Assad then exploits," said White House spokeswoman Dana Perino.
"The government of Syria continues to undermine the democratically elected government of Lebanon. They are allowing foreign enemy fighters to pass into Iraq through its border with Iraq, which is not only targeting our American soldiers, but Iraqi soldiers, as well as innocent Iraqi people. [Mr. Assad] knows that," Mrs. Perino said.
White House criticizes Pelosi's Syria trip - Nation/Politics - The Washington Times, America's Newspaper

Knowing about it and giving authorization are two completely different things.....what do ya think the White House should have done, grounded her to her room? lol

Have a good one!:s4:

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Originally Posted by GrowRebel

What a hypocrite you are .... there are plenty of crimes the illegitimate bush regime has committed that you completely ignore or disregard .... I could post many examples .... but I'll keep it simple with one .....

.... this is more for our viewers at home ....
I posted this awhile back and it wasn't addressed check it out

You get the picture folks this is one of many crimes committed by this illegitimate regime.

:noel:

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If there is one thing that I've learned with a few people in here is to check out the facts and NOT to let their little "spin" papers such as prisonplanet, etc..be considered as such.

SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) AUTHORIZATION- The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to--

(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and

(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.

(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION- In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon thereafter as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that--

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and

(2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorist and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.
Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

Read the highlighted area once and remember that thing called "Food For Oil". According to the provision you pointed out it was pretty clear that the people of the U.N. were NOT going to do any action based on the fact that they had other motives.

Next, IF the White House was in violation of any resolution then it's up to congress to proceed with an impeachment in accordance to our Constitution.

So how does that make me a hypocrit or did you just have to get your rocks off?

Have a good one!:s4:

But once again.......lets try to keep this to the actual topic if unless my left wing friends are throwing our constitution out the door.

Have a good one!:s4:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

If there is one thing that I've learned with a few people in here is to check out the facts and NOT to let their little "spin" papers such as prisonplanet, etc..be considered as such.

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We can and have said the same of you .... That's all bullshit you posted and my links show that .... there were no weapons .... the invasion was illegal .... that's a fact ... you can call it spin as much as you like .... we know that repuke talking point 193 .... Congress (most) won't do anything because they are in the pocket of the corporations who want these wars to continue and wish to expand .... and what evidence do you have other than your opinion that prisonplanet is not a credible news source?:wtf:

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Originally Posted by GrowRebel

and what evidence do you have other than your opinion that prisonplanet is not a credible news source?:wtf:

:noel:

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I'm with you on the whole we shouldn't be in Iraq thing, and the fact that Bush is an idiot, but Prisonplanet?? I mean seriously...come on GrowRebel, leave that nonsense to pisshead.