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Chrissy, how did the mites get into your plants?
After all the crap I've gone through with these things, I am now afraid of bugs.
I went to your pics page. Fabulous. I love the idea of using a dryer, that is so tight! When we move to our new house (please god let it be soon) I'm going to follow your growroom plans. This growing in a little closet shit is for the birds. I have a hard time taking care of my plants cuz I have to bend and squish myself into a pretzel to fit in the closet.
I'm so happy. Jaz's top finally has a little root nub! now I need to wait for Bella. I've decided that the purpling stopped, so maybe they were a little short on Phousphorus and sulfer but the were just fed so that should fix it. The ph is fine so if it happens close to the next feed I'll increase my nutes.
A few of my rooted clones leaves have contorted as they grew since I put them under the MH bulb, and have a little yellowing so I think maybe they had used up all their nutes growing roots. My nute system suggests a 250ppm solution once they develope roots and I've stared that with no ill signs. I also pulled the humidity dome off after cracking it a few days. They seem to be doing fine, they're slowly growing.
With all the clones I plan to top them once I have 4 nice branch sites. Then I'll have 4 mainstems growing out and up like a cup. I'll snip the branches out of the inside of the cup and try to LST the outside branches. That way I have the chance to convert a vegging clone to a mom if I really like this harvest.
Thanks everyone for stopping by, I watch my veiw number climb so I know you're lookin out for me.
Chrissy,
When you top and then lst, do you tie all the outside branches down? Cause if so, I need to go back in my room and commence to tyin'.
I am just full of questions today!
What I did when my plants were 4 weeks I started to pull the top horizotal by shaping the plant like an S. then I pulled all the large branches out to the side almost horizontal so the secondary branches took off. Once they reached the edge of the pot and started growing up I cut the lines. I only topped by accident with my ties. But once the tops came off the top 3-4 branches(the mainstalk is horizontal remember to allow equal light) They took off. So I have 3-5 main colas now and lots of side colas. Very bushy plants, almost too bushy, I'm running out of floor space now, but don't regret it. I would spend hours tying each day, but I was also trying to slowly bend a tree trunk like stem so I had to do it gradual, otherwise I would have kinks, braches pulled down too much can split from the main stalk, and fine ties(like fishing line) can slice through. Even tiny nicks with that line would cause it to cleanly snap when pressure was pul on it. Next time I'll use yarn for sure. Kp said she would put a screw in the outside of the rim and just wrap it around. Sounds like alot less work.
I used that real soft nylon rope for tying boats to a dock. Got it at Wal-Mart, goddess bless 'em. I FIMmed 3 of my 4 plants, and now they're all lsted in one way or another. Two of them have all 4 mains tied, and two of them are just bent at the one main stalk. One of those is untouched by FIM or topping, it's just LSTed. The other one was FIMmed, but the two branches don't want to let me tie them separately, so I just tied them down together.
I swear, my next grow I'll be more organized.;)
At least this way you'll knowwhat works better for you. My FIMming was a bust, but next crop I'll try again. I'll know alot more by then.
OK I am having a problem with some of my clones. On some I had yellowing, leaves and branches growing scrunched and a few brown crispy spots. Some hade only one sign, some had a few and others are totally fine. I have many variables such as adding very lite nutes as recommended by the product, moving them under the 400MH, and losing a timer so not having nighttime heat stability that they were used too. With so many variables I didn't know what was going on. So I set it up like a lab experiment and charted all my information and made some connections and identified clusters. I noticed that my early clones were more affected and the occurances became less as I cloned more. I did some research and found that when left in rockwool cubes then planted strait into soil there were a few unconsistant variables. So I would periodically gently pull them out and check for nubs. The two clones that are the worst were the first to grow roots, but in the etra day it took to get everything ready they grew into the cube. So I pulled the cubes apart carefully around the roots then planted them. So I have come to the concusion that most of my clone problem is the result of stress to the roots system. The yellowing on some is consistent with nute def from directing energy towards rooting. And the two that have slight burns are probaly the result of the root systems of a few not being quite ready when I started with the recommended very light nutes. I don't think the nutes caused the contorting because most of the plants new growth appears to be growing properly, and the ones that have contorted new growth are a little newer. So all I can really do is wait and see if my theory holds true. Luckily I have enough healthy clones to keep my strains alive, and a few clones just now rooting to watch and observe.
But hey this is my first grow and I'd rather play now so I know for later. As time goes on I'll have more oppertunities to experiment once I have my bonsai moms going that I'll have to take clippings I don't need off anyways.
Any theories, thoughs, questions or suggestions, feel free to shoot, cause I'm here to learn.
Thanks as always for popping in for the visit.:D
I'm really interested in the whole bonsai thing, both on cannabis and on trees. I'm off to run a search on the forums and see what I can find on it.
International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - ALL ABOUT BONSAI MOMS/MUMS
here is a great link
I'm reading your thread, I swear I'm paying attention but I still have a question: What medium are you growing in? I keep looking, and I know you're using Advanced Nutes, but are you using soil, hydro, or aero? I must be missing something.:p
edited to say: Thanks for the link!
i'm using sunshine mix 4, it's peatmoss, perlite and vermite(sp?). Anyways it's like soil but since it is pH balanced and has no nutrition in it it is called a soiless mix.
Ahhh, thanks:)
Well 3 weeks into flower and my room is FULL. All 7 plants are closing in on eacother. I am very temped to trim some of the whispy under branchs off with very little buds. That way I can pull some of the bulk out and concentrate energy towards the top buds. Then I can stick those branches in as clones And play with reverting them back to veg and seeing if they will clone. Then I can still have one of every strain and might be able to replace some of my messed up clones.
The other issue I'm having is those bushy northerns of mine. The fan leaves are so big and they are so compact that there are little buds in the shadows. I can't pull them out of the way to expose the buds because the I just cover up another bud. So I was thinking maybe pull a few blades out of the leaves.
Either way they will be choking eachother out soon, and it should help with my bulk.
As for my purpling problem it has slowly spread a little but only now that the pots are drying out, so I could keep my nutes the same and make it worse, or increase my nutes and make it worse.
I think I have to change around my setup a little. While the rooted clones are doing fine in the stage one dryer drum, the fresh clones keep drying out way too fast. I also think that the cold night temps are slowing things down. So I figure I want the clones in the stage one drum under the flouro with the heater at night. So that means I'll have to move the rooted clones into the stage 2 dryer with the 400MH bulb.
But that causes another problem because I am down a timer because I need it for one of my flouros in the flower room, and I also wanted to move the heater to the flowqer room since the temp goes from 80 during the day down to 62 at night. Oh so much to do so little nap time.
Urg I want to be downstairs working on my garden but K is up and her naps are cutting back. The time will come very soon when she will have to get used to the idea that I can't always be in her sight. I quit my job to be home with her but we are seriously hurting for cash so this hooby has o not only pay for itself but I need to have enough to help a buddy out so we can help ourselves out.
I'm right there with ya. I'm concerned that I've just picked up an expensive hobby. I'm seriously considering, since I've come this far, expanding a bit, and raising enough to make Christmas money every year. The thought of selling though makes me paranoid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronic Chrissy
Well with swtching around a few cords and by shutting off the flouros before lights out manually(even a little early is fine, the plug them back in when we get up in the morning) I can support my set up. as for the selling part I hhave 2 ld buddys who have faced to cops for me in the past and have kept their mouths shut at their own expense. These are the only two people I will deal with here. I have one more friend in a small dry city an hour away. And he is the one exception I am prepared to make. I may talk H into picking up a 1000w hps after this crop. Then I'll build one more large room out of Panda plastic for flowering, and that's it I refuse to have any bigger set up than that except for some side lighting and basic improvements. I really just want to get us out of debt, we're only about $10,000 behind but after three years of working at it as we pay one thing off another pops up out of H's past. I would like to get to the point were we can be caught up on basic bills, make minimum payments on the rest, and have $200 in the account. Our first annaversary is tommorrow and I don't even have anything for supper, never mind be able to make a nice dinner for when H get home...
crying babe, be back.
Hey for the undergrowth... 3 weeks in and you still have a chance to make those crap budsites into clones.
Trimming lame low shoots is not a bad idea for a couple reasons; they often die anyway due to lack of light, the buds are dumb, and the plant can focus energy on the 'real' buds!
Thanks stinky. I'm rearranging my set up as we speak and I think I have a few solutions to help with my night temp problems and clone problems without altering the light cycle. After that I think I'll try to get organized enough to take clones and snip a few blades today or tommorrow. Busay, busy busy....
Big changes...1st wedding annaversary today(without even 2 cents to rub togather)... baby on nursing strike...sleep deprived...purpling solved...ready to clone and trim flowering plants......so much to do........so so tired.......tommorrow new day.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:microwave:
[align=center]!!!HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!!
Piffle on some $$$:p .
Find someone to babysit:thumbsup:
Make some ramen:eat:
Get a 6 pack:glugglug:
Smoke one:jointsmile:
AND HAVE FREAKY LOVING SEX! :s3: [/align]
H just called and said he did a side job at work so we have $100! I plan to make the most of this night since I couldn't even have a drink on my wedding nigh, I was 5 month pregnant. I wonder how my dress fits? hhmmm
Thanks for the love greenjeans, I'll try and follow you instructions, maybe not in that order though;)
Personally I like my ramen midway through the sex.
LOL! Yeah, you might want to eat the ramen after you smoke one. Yeah, er, that's it!
And Canuck, if it's a long session, it makes sense to take a break and carb up!
Sorry to double post, I always forget something.
Chrissy, how did you solve your temp issue?
OK gotta type fast because I have a plugged up miserable baby finally taking a nap, a bra in the dryer(the one that works), and I still need to get all dolled up for H tonight since we now have a little cash.
Changes. I took a leaf to my growshop last night and we sat down and worked through all his books. Since the brown is between the veins and there is a tiny bit of yellowing around it, starting at the tip and working in on the older leaves we came to the conclusion that I have a Mg def. Which blind sighted me since I'm using Cal/Mg. But the temp on the floor of the flower room is 67 and the top temp is 85, during the night they both drop to about 63. The low soil temp could be what is locking out the Mg. So I torn up the floor of my room and put left over carpet underlay under the panda plastic so they aren't right on the cold concrete. I also had to do some rearranging to set up stage 1 and 2 dryer along with the flower room, and found a way to set my whole flower room on the timer. That means the ehaust fan isn't pulling the warm air out after lights out, I also got to repostion my tower fan having more cord to work with. The temp now is 82 at the top and 69-70 at the bottom.
I have both the stage one and two dryers going side by side, and put the unhappy unrooted clones back under the flouro, they are much happier now, and the heater is set up too so they get to stay nice and warm. The rooted clones are doing fine. I topped them today at 4-5 branches from the bottom. Hopefully with a little bending I can have all the branches growing at the same rate. Then I want to minimize secondary branches a much as possible till they are flowing to keep them from getting bushy but still having 4-5 main cola's. This should allow the plant to concentrate on actual bud instead of undersuckers, and let me put more plants in the flower room with out them choking eachother out like they are now.
I have the rockwool cubes primed and warming up for tommorrow I plan to take 2-3 clones off of each flowering plant. At the same time I'm going to pinch any tiny under buds, or buds that are hopelessly shaded. Sop this should be and adventure in itself having to wait for them to revert back to veg then root. But now knowing how long they normally take to root I know when to start looking for signs.
I will have to water tommorrow and was using a little less Cal/Mg then suggested so hopefully with the little increase and the temp stabilization I can stop this def, otherwise I'll have to start folier feeding. The net water after that I plan on using plain pH water and carboload to let the plants catch up on any nutes left behind.
Dryer stopped, time to beautify. I should be popping in during down time, but only for the next hour, then I pick up H and hopefully drop K off, and it is time to make up for a sober wedding. Maybe if I have enough drinks I'll see how that dress of mine fits, and maybe this time H won't be too druck to sweep me off my feet into the bedroom.
Cheers to applesauce and all my fellow Canna friends.
Well last night was a blast, till we got home. K had such bad tummy troubles she didn't sleep all night, poor babe. But she's better now.
Having put my clones back under the flour set up they have all rooted, but I still haven't taken the flowering clones. That is happening tommorrow. I also have to water tommorrow so I'll increase my Cal/Mg.
My Grandma dropped off a cedar hope chest and I was thinking of using it to dry my harvest in, because it should dry it pretty quick. Does drying quick in a dark cool place affect the product does anyone know?
Anyways I'll be updating tommorrow.
Thanks for visiting.
Does she have colic? Both my girls had it baaaad. Hyland's worked great for one of them, not good for the one who was lactose intolerant. On her I just used Mylicon (simethicone) drops. I like Hyland's products, because they're homeopathic.
Oh no. Just a silly mommy who doesn't listen to wise older Mommas. We've been having a few weight issues so whe've been introducing solids(wanted to exclusively breast feed the firest year) and she's loving it. I was warned about peas by my aunt, so I figured I would mix them with some sweet potatos. Well she loved them but only til they got so far in her. So friday she bit me 4 times while breastfeeding, and the 5th she bit and pulled while laughing. I flicked her bottom lip before I knew what I had done, not hard, she looked at me cried then went on playing 2 seconds later. Well after that she didn't breastfeed all night or yesterday and didn't eat much solid either. I thought she was on a nursing strike because I flicked her. Tyhen her 3 daily poops didn't come and I knew it was the peas. The one poop she did have yesterday was thick and black, usually they eplode nice a gooy all over the diaper. So she hd to work the rest of it out. We went out to the bar where Harliquine was playing for 2 1/2 hours and came home rather happy and ready for bed. Well her had a gurgly stomach and was farting away all night. We sat her up, scrunced her legs as much as possible and pumped her legs up into her belly. She would fall asleep then I would drift off and she would slide out of postion and wake up. Mean while with her not nursing my boobs were eploding so it hurt so bad to have anything touch them. I wanted to pmp before going to bed but H was to drunk to give K(I hurt then at 1:30am) to so I figured I would wait till she fell asleep which never came. So 4:30 I needed to get it out, so H got K and I pumped 6 oz in 10 minutes. She still didn't go to sleep after that though. Around 10:30 am she finally had another thick black poop and since then is nursing and eating again. They should put a warning lable on peas, I have half a mind to sue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs. Greenjeans
Oh and we love teething tablets here, they work great for so many things and calm her down but they can only do so much. We like to stay as natural as possible and practise some attachment parenting, babywearing, and partial cosleeping.
But anyways I got my happy baby back, only had 2 naps today but that should mean we'll have a great sleep tonight and we get tio sleep in a bit.
OMG peas are the worst!!! And then mixed with sweet potatoes LOL!
That link up there was for Hyland's colic remedy. I know, I didn't know they made anything besides teething tablets until I had my kids.
I'm glad she's all sorted out.:)
Oh, and don't worry about the lip flicking thing. It's not child abuse to stop the little vampires from biting your nipples off. It's like a mama lion cuffing her cubs, part of the necessary learning process.;)
H said I hit her lol, I told him to let her bit his nipples. She'll never ounderstand what oww means if se doesn't feel a little discomfort. But the peas are put away for a while. Thanks for sharing the mommyhood, we would be in bed right now but H likes his new shows on Sundays. I can't wait to hit the pillow.
OK I ahd a big day and not much time so I'm double posting this in my log.
To start off I needed to water so i increased my Cal/Mg and hopefully that fixes my Mdef. I've tried to increase the root temp but that would require money I just don't have.
After that I took 2 clones from each flower plant. I wanted to try something out so for a few I cut all the buds but the top off, and left the other fully intact, i want to see what happens. I took branches from the very bottom or totally shaded and streching.
So that left me with a little cup of tiny buds. not the best and not the most frosty but enough so that after a few trips to the micro I was able to sample it and get a little buzz.
So after tht I cleaned the room top to bottom with bleach like I always do. then that cat went in there and pissed. Fuck I forgot to clean the cat litter like I promised. Oh well there is always tommorrow kitties.
So next i had to plant my three final clones to root including 2 of the three tops I broke off. then not thinking stuck them right under the MH bulb instead of letting them adapt to the soil under the flouro for a day. So needless to say they wilted before I relized it. But now they are back where they belong.
My plants are looking so pretty I can't wait to share. K needs to go to sleep soon and we have a ton of movies on tonight so if K co operates(which she isn't doing now) I'll be back. If not good night.
Aww not the cat pee! Yuck! I have a cat who is 13 and completely blind. He hates our other cat, who is a young intact male, about 3 years old. So I let the oldtimer in the house the other day, since it's so cold out. He usually prefers to be outside, so I had to trick him into coming inside. Anyway, that old bastard sprayed in my frigging KITCHEN! I could have killed him. He can stay his old ass outside and freeze.
I can't wait to see your pics. I took some today. I don't know what to do with my plants. They're growing all whichaways. :)
It won't let me rep you! It says I need to spread it around. :(
Very cleaver idea i guess anything would work kool keep up the good work plants are looking nice and green and healthly :greenthumb: :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronic Chrissy
Very cleaver idea i guess anything would work kool keep up the good work plants are looking nice and green and healthly :greenthumb: :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronic Chrissy
Oh just you wait the camera is coming today so very soon you'll see the new and improved ladies.
new pics going up as we speak.
Please someone tell me I'm on the right track
you are on the right track, and going 200mph!!!:D
looking good.
question:
have you got the purpling under control?
It's not running rampid or anything, but there was more purpling before this watering which stoppedonce they were fed, but i'm already exceeding the recommended ammount of Cal/Mg, so I need to watch as the pots dry out again. I was intending to use just pH water next but I think I'll have to add the Cal/Mg, hopefully it still acts as a nice break, without spreading. Am i really doing that good? Any idea the least ammount I can expect?