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Day 65 (fd15)
a few more updates, gave them another very good flush type watering today followed by a one and-a-half dose of 10-25-25, i was feeling brave.
ive also pruned about 10-12 branches off, over all 5 plants, just little scraggely ones that wernt really getting any light....
the real estate in my grow room is at a premium at the mo, its a bit too dense in there....seem to be comming along ok....
a few more pics
That main cola is gonna be off the hook!
You da weed pimp :pimp:
I can't thank you enough for documenting this grow, im 30 days into mine, and all 10 look healthy and strong and look exactly like yours (minus the problems) ;) . How many days in were you before you could identify the female parts? I'm in there with a magnifying glass and no luck yet, I need to tell which are female so I can transplant from 1 gal to 5 gal soon. Thanks in advance.
day 67 (fd17)
thanks for the comments, watered again today, this time with 2 litres per plant and a double dose of 10-25-25...ive got my trust shower-head and bath tub on standby in the event of burn, but theres nothing yet...they just keep drinkin that fert down.....
i really need to get out and find a low N fert.
they are taking thier time to fatten up, and some of the buds are looking way too mature for the ammount of bud there is.....on the other hand theres plenty of bud sites that are still in infancy.....
dunno if the problems genetic, or my fert ratios wrong.
looks like it will be a staggared harvest....i was hoping to chop em all at once, but whatever.
on the up side, there absolutly no sign of hermies yet, which is great....but my temps this time round have been nice and stable.
i did read on another forum that the yield on skywalker is not huge...maybe im hoping for too much.
some bud shots...
oldgrowerdude, i noticed definate pistil growth on every plant by day 48,
and switched the lights to 12 the day after..
they may have been developing for a few days but i didnt notice as i was pre-occupied with other things.
a few more pics.....the one i tied down is doing very nicely:rastasmoke:
Don't be discouraged, your only on Flower day 17 and those buds will keep bulking in size all the way to week 6, then they will fatten with crystals for the last 2 weeks.
I would describe the natural progression of bud development as wave after wave of calyx growth, fresh and also dying as more new calyxes grow around the older growth so they seem to be maturing at a perfectly normal rate from what I can determine from the pics/description.
And a good way to determine if you are over fertilizing is if you get "greenhouse burn" on the tips of the newer leaves. Once you notice the new growth growing exceptionally lush green with discolored, brown or wrinkled leaf tips you have maxed out how much fert the plant can absorb. One thing you could do is to add some PH up to your water to maximize the amount of nutrient availability for the roots while not burning the plant with highly acidic feedings (Super size tip :cool: ).
I am curious concerning what you will discover about the one that is tied down, I usually do something like that or simply remove the main shoot all together to get alot of smaller main buds to grow for more growth, but it is not guaranteed to increase yield with all strains. Your continued documentation and scientific analysis will help to answer that question in the final weeks of this exciting/informative grow.
well, i watered & fed 2x again today, and noticed some slight burn on the lower growth on two of the plants, so i think ive found the ceiling, so im gonna flush em in a mo and fert again in two/3 days but just with single dose
Always good to catch that stuff early so you know when to back off the dosage, don't forget some bud shots in your next update :p Im pretty amazed that they are 100% female so far, I had heard that people often got hermies from feminized but it must be a pretty stable strain.
:jointsmile: day 21 of flower...some bud-tastic pics....
have yours shown sex yet, oldgrower dude?
i will be backing off the ferts a bit, back to single dose i think, for the rest of the grow...i think i could get away with a 1x5x dose, but i want to wind down the ferts toward the end, i think ive probably only got another 3-4 weeks to go.
Holy F$%k those got huge!! And to think they gain most of the weight in the last 2 weeks wow, they still got lots to go I can't wait! I like the one that is a 2 foot long Cola now, wow! Dont back off the ferts too much they will grow like crazy for a bit longer still :rasta:
30 Days in for me and No signs yet of either gender. Im checking close every day, and I would like to throw down some pictures too to add to the documentation here, I have some photos on my comp but every time I click "Manage attachments" it just sorta goes "error" :(
Hey I think I figured it out here goes! I can't wait to find out which one will make the leet-ist cloning stock ;)
Nice I got the hang of it heres another :) :
thanks for the comments :), just to put your mind at rest, time scale aside...my plants were quite a bit bigger before they showed sex under 18/6 lighting...just keep em goin aslong as you have enough height to play with,
mine are now averaging 46inch from soil to tip.
what light are you using oldgrowerdude/
you might notice the two outer plants are leaning out, thats because ive used zip-ties in an attemt to keep them from growing into the lamp, the plant at the back shes also had her main cola tied down to its pot using some old speaker cable, resulting in more horizontal growth.
good point about the ferts, oldgrowerdude, i am raming them back up to 1.5x dose, but if i fail to mention it in future replies, i wil be phasing it down toward the end, especsially as is got a high "N" content (10-25-25)
i did manage to buy some pretty much pure "P" and pure "K" powder nutes, but they arnt the soluble type, more the type that you would mix into the soil to start with, so im just going to carry on with what ive got...
if it aint broke, dont fix it...lol
It looks like the ones you tied back might be a bit easier to manage, I'm thinking about just topping mine early and making bushes, thats how I usually do it.
I have plenty of vertical, and horizontal room. I have a 100W flourescent tray for clones, a 250W mh for seedlings and moms, a 600W hps for vegging crops, and My Flower room is a 1000W mh and a 1000W hps all under Daystar reflector hoods.
Obviously looking at your plant pics they are massively heavy on the Nitrogen, and show lush green growth..... As far as your nutes go I would have to submit that they are broke, well wounded at the least. It's hard to imagine a nutrient that is not water soluble, it has to dissolve eventually for the plant to absorb it.... I am curious what the pure P and K nutes you have are, if you can make a Tea out of it, or soak it in warm water for a few minutes before feeding your plants you would be much better off that what you are using now. Toss in a pic or discription of those powder nutes you might just be better off with them.
hi, ones called potash ( 0-0-49 ), and the other is called superphosphate( 0-17-0 )
ive tried mixing a little with some warm water, but its just settles to the bottom so im a bit wary of it just sitting on top of the soil...
mind you, i only used a cup of water with a spoonfull of firt to test, so maybe with a full litre of water it will disolve better..will have to try..
and then theres the dosage to figure out, i guess the potash will be 1/2 or 3/4 a teaspoon per litre per plant, and thesuperphosphate 1 - 1.5teaspoon...should give me about what im currently giving, but without the N?
thanks for the interest and advice..
If that stuff will dissolve (even partially) overnight at the correct ratio per litre I would go with it for sure. You could even add a drop or two of your other Nutes in for just a smidgen of Nitrogen to balance things out (not recommended on this case you have N overdose). Just remember not to mix concentrates straight together, add water first :)
If you don't feel comfortable with that do whatever you think you must, but I'm a big fan of mixing small amounts of various nutrients together (especially organic) to cover the spectrum of micronutrients.
Another option is to try diluting your tea and water just one plant and see how it responds, if it does well do the same to the others next feeding (I would always suggest using this method as opposed to risking an entire crop).
Here are my Best skywalkers, and a shot of the HPS in flower room (With about 24 misty clones right now, 12 get harvested every 2 weeks perpetually :pimp: ) where they will be budding in a few weeks. I cant wait to flower these Skys especially after seeing that fat cola close up pic you took please please please post more dank bud shots when you get a chance! And Have you pinched any off to see if it makes good smoke yet im literally salivating over here waiting to taste some of this Gear!!!
thats quite an army your rasing there!! looking nice :)
ive still got some ground bud left over from the last crop, so ive been able to refrain, though its hard... they smell really sweet:D
oh, day 24 of flowering btw
Whats the thin dangling wire behind that Quarter Pound (114 grams for people from normal countries) bud pic?
that just the probe bit from one of my thermometers, i use 3 or 4 and move them around a bit, two probe type ones ( they are actually aquarium thermo's but they have a switch o them for water temp/air temp ) and two regular ones
babystarbud, i've been lurking in this one since the beginning, don't think i've posted anything in it yet, though. BEAUTIFUL PLANTS!
It's looking like this x10 because they are just unbelievably huge.
And that is a Skywalker picture above by the way ;) . I can't wait to see how your planties finish up BabyStarBud your killing me with suspense! Mine are not even showing the females yet and I'm checking obsessively :mad: Well I guess I might have spotted a male or two so they are close to showing. The sooner the better so I can toss them into some 5 gal grow bags for another week or two of fast veg.
looking good oldgrowerdude :D
thanks jedi hash, use the dark side of the force!:vader1:
some new pics today, i finaly managed to pry my mates 6 magapixel cam from his clamy mits, what a difference a good camera makes!!!:cool:
check the trichomes out, after these pics were taken ive mixed in these new nutes, lets see how they go...
well ive put the new nutes in the pots now,
ive worked out that one scoop (1dose) of the previous fert ( 12-25-25 )
is equivelant to a round teaspoon, so by that measurement,
ive used a heaped teaspoon of 0-17-0...should be equivelant to 0-20ish-0
and half a teaspoon of 0-0-49, which should be equvelant to 0-0-25ish
per plant.
i just hope the nutes are available to the plant immediatley, as its the kind of nute that you would mix in to the soil before planting according to the instructions...:confused:
the nutes do settle aswell, they dont really disolve, so each feeding of 1 litre will be followed by another plain litre once the origeonal water has drained.
Totally worth the wait on those pictures, very very impressive. I never would have imagined you could get a crop like that, from seed, off a 400 watt light on your second grow :). I keep trying to take close ups of buds but either my 5 mega pixel camera is no good or Im doing something wrong because your close ups are astounding and mine are coming out blurry (I dont have a camera with lenses that can switch or anything so that could be my problem).
As far as those nutes go they wont work as well not being mixed in from start, but they will work better than the N filled stuff you were pumping them with as your grow finishes up I can assure you (I like the plan you came up with).
They don't really look like blueberry plants, and they dont look like Mazar they look like a mix (what a suprise). Do they at least smell like blueberry? For a strain that costs a days wage for the 10 seed pack, I'm expecting some top notch Quality tasting smoke. I have no clue as to how you have not smoked a sample of that yet I would have already gotten fully baked (but I'm highly impatient ;) ).
P.S. Watch TerrorStorm on Google video catch ya later!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...or+storm&hl=en
day 79 ( flower day 29)
thenks:o im quite surprised at the quality of the buds myself....they are not huge or anything...but perfectly formed:) mind you it takes me almost an hours work to pay for 1 seed, so they had better be bloody good!!!
i have read elsewhere that skywalkers arnt the biggest yielders, but are a very good quality smoke, which is what im after really, ive only ever smoked blueberry in amsterdam, and found it to be to strong for my tastes, and not a particulary paletable smoke.....maybe it was just the unfamilliar surroundings that prevented me from full enjoyment i dunno....but saying that im not a massive smoker anyway, half a joint is normaly the most ill ever smoke in one sitting if its strong weed...my mind gets too bent if i smoke to much lol
it was tricky taking the close ups....i found it was better to move the camera in close rather than zoom in....it wouldnt focus proprely if i use the zoom. i also have to hold my breath to prevent blur from my own movement and rest my arms/shoulders against somthing to prevent movement also...even then only about 1 in 3 pics came out ok, i guess thats the beauty of a digital cam..no worriies about wasting film lol i probably take about 20 pics for every 5 i post and just select the best ones.
the cam im using only has 2 quality settings, normal and fine, i used the fine setting.
im still a bit concerned about the nutes not penetrating the soil properly..time will tell
the smell his hard to pin down, they seem to smell stronger some days...and the smell seems to be evolving...at the mo they kinda smell like sweet pine with a hint of spice....they deffo smell very good.
ive been ble to resist because my first grow i chopped one plant early but it was a bit of a let down, and plus there always a bit of somthing or other floating around anyways, so its been quite easy to resist temptation. although i am getting more anxious to try some as time goes on...im gonna let these run the full course and harvest a little late maybe
wow, they look great..:) if you have a magnifying glass, take a macro shot with that, you can get nice, clear close-ups. my camera is a peice of shit, but i have got some good photos out of it recently, so im not complainin..
your pics are great anyway, keep up the good work :)
just lettin u know, (if you didnt already) harvesting a plant late can mean you end up with less THC, as it will change into CBNs and stuff.. i would still harvest some late though, always let the pots dry right out just before you cut them down, as that will stress the plant a little, and increase the resin a tiny bit...
good luck... :)
thanks abattoir, i have a microscope that i use for looking at small samples ive cut, but its pretty much impossible to take pics through it, i can get ok results with a cam...but nothing worth looking at really.
by harvesting late, i thought with it being an indica it would be better...
late-ish that is, i dont wanna wait till they are to far gone
i harvest my couchers when the trichs are 50-50. the difference between amber trichs and degrading trichs is:
amber is mature and beginning to degrade, but still standing.
amber trichs that are degraded and dying are laying down (dead looking)
thanks for the info, ive always harvested on the early side...impatient i guess lol
i always assumed they woud just just go dark and drop off or somthing, kinda like frost bite lol
know i know to look for droopey ones as a sighn they are past-best...cheers:):)
ive changed the fert yet again today, ive gone back to the vita-link 10-9-19 for one feeding (2xdose)as there are a few blemishes on som leafs that look like some kind of deficiancy, these nute have a long list of micro-nutes so im hoping a good infusion they will do the trick,
next feeds will be back to the zero-N-25P-25K concoction that i invented before,
its re-assuring to know that i can fall back on a good all-rounder fert if i feel the need.
note to slef: it would be good to find a micro formula with no major nutes included
That is an excellent point...please let me know if you find one worthy mentioning. BQuote:
Originally Posted by babystarbud
Seaweed and Kelp are great organic nutes and are LOADED with micro elements, so many in fact that science is still trying to figure them all out/reproduce them in a lab (0-0-1 seaweed is common in garden stores). My favorite is Fox Farm bloom enhancer (Big Bloom) with micro nutes from rock phosphate potash and worm castings (worth the few extra dollars).
Thanks for the camera advice those are good tips I'll have to do some more experimenting with the cameras' settings and trying to nullify movement also:)
As far as harvesting goes don't listen to anyone unless your totally clueless on when to harvest. Just let a bud dry out every couple of days and harvest when the % THC and CBD are the most palatable to you. Earlier harvest will result in lighter "social" high and the longer you let the triches ripen the more "couch-lock" you will get. There's no rule its all preference ;) .
You should include a pic of the "blemish" your referring to (if you can) its not likely its from under fertilization, but more likely from nutrient lock-up. This happens when you add multiple types of fertilizer that do not go well together, and they bind in the soil locking out valuable micro nutes or worse toxifying the soil in a salty ph imbalanced sludge. To much Mg for example can lock out N immediately to the rest of the plant. With no pic its impossible to say exactly whats going on, just be careful what you start dumping on now, I mean hey your almost done :smokin: don't over do it!
The most dangerous part about nutrient lock up is that the symptoms resemble that of a deficiency because a certain nute is not available to the plant, yet the cause of the problem is an over abundunce of one or more nutes or ph imbalance and NOT a lack of that specific nutrient (whew what a mouthfull :) ).
Catch you later Babystarbud, and p.s. My skywalker is still not showing sex still at 46 days in but they are under 24 hrs light pretty much and its also not HPS so that might have something to do with it. And I just topped them the other day so they can start to bush out so I can snag clones off each one and put them to flower, I'll add some pics down the road if your interested.
calmag is what you want, not calmag plus as that has 2% nitrogen added to it, i use calmag plus through veg and add no nutes at all ever during this time as the calmag plus has nitrogen everywater.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bree1978
Day 83 fd33
thanks for the tips OGD your a real font of knowledge:cool: ....i will get some pics in a day or so...i just havent got time at the mo.
the problem dosent seem to be getting much worse anyway so im not overly concerned....
the feeding before last i did go back to the 2part hydro feed 10-9-19 purely for the micro nutes...but they are back on straight P and K now.
some pics would be good....not showing yet...im quite suprised...but hey its only a matter of time i guess.
cheers
heresa few pics of the "blemishes"
thinking about it, they are very local and only on the bottoms of a few plants, and its not getting worse so im thinking it might be where ive splashed the feed a bit...
Day 85 fd35
some better quality pics...