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Originally Posted by amsterdam

forget the people who have been beaten up and robbed,what about the people who have been killed.

Ireland is one of the most beautifel places on earth.great golf and good beer!!

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and pretty names...
my great great grandmother: Melissa Carolina Trusty Malone...what a name

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Originally Posted by TheLion

I just wish we could abolish religion for good. The world would be a much better place to live in.

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no there would still be republicans, Celine Deon and OMG Abba fans....

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Originally Posted by Jaxx

Aye, religion, in my opinion, has had its time and we need to move on. Doesnt need to be abolished though, we can still learn alot from how it influenced us for good or bad, it just shouldnt be forced on people at a young age so they can make their own decision when theyre old enough to understand all the concepts involved.
I think this way alot of people will just abandon it.

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I agree...I wonder is there a shelf life for religion...best if used by....

Do shrooms man, you will come to grips with whatever you believe in. Opens your mind. Whew does it ever.

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Originally Posted by amsterdam

what the hell are you talking about??

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something you may never understand...unfortunitly.

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

hey darkneon, no offence hun, but it's kinda saddening that you're changing your whole life style because of religion, and giving up the things you want... but hey its your choice

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Islam is a lifestyle...im not giviing anything up...cuz wat i want is to be a good muslim (besides if your talking about luc i never left him) And even tho im better with my religion doesent mean im a diffrent person...im still me, still myself. Just going in a diffrent direction, and for the better. I hope yall could understand im still the same darkneon...i hope yallz will love me being Muslim...and hey im probiblly the first stoner muslim you've met!

yes there is a god alright? but you dont know what the fuck it is and while on earth you'll never know. In reality humans arnt even meant to have religeon on earth i mean they are not supposed to believe anything that they can read because 99.9% of religeos books are bullshit with real shit hidden within them but all people do is follow the bull shit which really doesnt make much sense. Im just tryin to say do whatever the fuck you want until you die..because only then you will know the truth. Its funny acctually..if you believe whole heartedly about where you go when you die, you acctually go there! but it is fake, you get stuck there, you are not a real spirit yet if you go to heaven then you are fake..hell..really fake .

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Originally Posted by Darkneon420

Islam is a lifestyle...im not giviing anything up...cuz wat i want is to be a good muslim (besides if your talking about luc i never left him) And even tho im better with my religion doesent mean im a diffrent person...im still me, still myself. Just going in a diffrent direction, and for the better. I hope yall could understand im still the same darkneon...i hope yallz will love me being Muslim...and hey im probiblly the first stoner muslim you've met!

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darkneon youre always cool with me.. it just sucks when i see people start believing in God or joining a religion because of what I personally think about it, you know? Man, i'm so high i'm trying to figure out if that last sentence even made sense. Ummm...

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

darkneon youre always cool with me.. it just sucks when i see people start believing in God or joining a religion because of what I personally think about it, you know? Man, i'm so high i'm trying to figure out if that last sentence even made sense. Ummm...

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:D Yeah i understand man...thats your opinion and i'll respect that. For me my religion is my life...because thats what the message is...its the path to the right way in islam. To Muslims we follow wat Allah left us here to follow so that one day we can go to paradise as we were meant to go.

Honestly, if we all had the same opinions about stuff like this life would be really boring. Just even if its not your opinion you still have to respect others opinions. Even Muslims respect the bible and other holy books because our religion isent all that diffrent from ours.

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Originally Posted by BlueCat

Dear President Bush,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. You should make a law that everyone watch The Jesus factor on PBS just so we all know how full of the holy spirit you are! Just the other day when someone tried to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply reminded them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations.

{Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.}

Well A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians? I really want a Canadian slave!

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7,8. She is driving me nuts and I need the cash.

{ And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.}
{If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.}

In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? Do you think it would be ok to auction her off on Ebay?


3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19

{And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even.}


The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense to this! Should I stake out the feminine hygiene aisle at Walmart?

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9.

[But his inwards and his legs shall he wash in water: and the priest shall burn all on the altar, to be a burnt sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of a sweet savour unto the LORD.]

The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. They say it stinks...so should I smite them? I'd really like to smite them...

5. I have several neighbors who insist on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2

{Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.}

The passage clearly states they should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to stone them myself? Can I have a stoning party?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight.

{Or crookback, or a dwarfism, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;}

I have to admit that I wear reading glasses and contacts. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?


8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27.

{Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.}

While I wear my long hippy hair I notice yours is short as are many of my friends How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:7-8

{And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.}

Lev 11:8

{Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.}

that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean! But Can I still play football if I promise to wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19

{Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.}


by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:14

{Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.}

Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

{And if a man take a wife and her mother, it is wickedness: they shall be burnt with fire, both he and they; that there be no wickedness among you}

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, as I have heard you prostrate yourself before the Lord ion the floor of the oval office so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging. I await your wisdom. :rolleyes:

Your adoring fan,

US Resident, BlueCat




(adaptation from Dr. Laura Schlessinger )

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i love you :p :D

oh, my 2 pence, i just think that it is quite insane to believe in any sort of god/spirit/protector/etc, givin the vast, infinate expanse of the universe and existence. but whatever makes you happy, eh?

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Originally Posted by Darkneon420

and hey im probiblly the first stoner muslim you've met!

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lol, no i've met one before, muslims can't drink booze right? the guy i met just smoke shit loads of weed instead, lol

I have a question for ya Neon. Isn't it against your religion to do drugs? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it stated that your body is not yours, it belongs to Allah, and therefore it is not yours to harm?

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Originally Posted by TheLion

I have a question for ya Neon. Isn't it against your religion to do drugs? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it stated that your body is not yours, it belongs to Allah, and therefore it is not yours to harm?

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Islam explicitly forbids drinking alcohol, but scholars disagree as to whether ingesting other drugs is allowed or not. Most muslims dont drink, but if you go to muslim countries you see many who smoke tobacco. Now a lot of people wonder why alcohol is singled out among intoxicants. The practical reason is because alcohol is so readily available and appeals to more people than any other drug, and because the state of "drunkeness" is undesirable because you cant carry on your day-to-day activities, including praying, when you're drunk all the time. It also has a high potential for abuse Many muslims can therefore justify doing pot because even though it causes euphoria it doesnt prevent you from carrying on any activity. You can drive while on pot, take a test, carry on a conversation. Taking Alcohol in excess, however is dangerous and can lead to "irrational" behavior(being an asshole). Bottom line-you're not in a clear state of mind. Of course, most people dont become alcoholics, but according to scholars if you dont drink at all then theres a zero percent chance you'll become addicted, so thats why its totally forbidden. Thats the rationale.

As to your question, not harming your soul takes priority over not harming your body. If you pray five times a day, go on Hajj, fast, donate your money, get married, and raise muslim kids, read the Quran everyday, blieve Allah is the only god and Mohammed is the last prophet, then everything else is pretty minor. Anyway, its impossible not to harm your body. Every day you dont exercise, eat a fattening meal, go outside not wearing sunscreen then you do damage to your body.

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Originally Posted by BUZz UK

lol, no i've met one before, muslims can't drink booze right? the guy i met just smoke shit loads of weed instead, lol

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People in the UK have a much higher chance of meeting muslims. Pakistanis and Indians are everywhere there.

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Originally Posted by BUZz UK

lol, no i've met one before, muslims can't drink booze right? the guy i met just smoke shit loads of weed instead, lol

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Lol, nice. Well i live with two! Not including me.

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Originally Posted by BUZz UK

oh, my 2 pence, i just think that it is quite insane to believe in any sort of god/spirit/protector/etc, givin the vast, infinate expanse of the universe and existence. but whatever makes you happy, eh?

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Yeah I prefer Science but then you have to respect others.....it would be pretty boring if we were all one culture...some single cyborg existence..lol

but then maybe not we would all know the secret to growing the best weed lol
You could smoke it in the UK and we could feel it in the US... :D
As for the Muslims
there are a quite a few communities in BC...I went to one of the mosques there....it was beautiful and I have had muslim neighbors, so I get kinda upset when the rasicm starts up...
I have read a little of the Koran as it is translated on line but lost interest...it was too much like the Bible....

wish I was back in Canada... :( I will either be North or south of the border soon...it is sad to lose faith in your country you know?
hey thanks for your 2 pence...I like that...ever seen a toonie or a loonie?
have a good day...
PEACE Cat

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Originally Posted by BlueCat

Yeah I prefer Science but then you have to respect others.....it would be pretty boring if we were all one culture...some single cyborg existence..lol

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I guess it could be boring, but it would save a lot of lives...