My Experience with Rick Simpson Oil

Hello everyone!

This is my very first post...I am so happy I found this forum! My dad was recently diagnosed with stage 3 lung cancer (about 3 weeks ago). The doctors have also told him it has moved into some of his lymph nodes. He is going to an oncologist today to learn about chemo and some other treatments. However, I have mentioned some "alternative" treatment options and he seems to be ok with the idea. So...I went ahead and procured some high grade indica (afghan kush, and some northern lights) the other day. I was only able to get about 3/4 of an oz. though....I know, not very much...and my RSO will probably be very difficult to extract.

GrowGoddess- I've read through all of your posts! Thank you so much for the plethora of info. RSO is a very confusing process once you start reading through multiple sites/recipes. I only need a few more items to begin my first small batch of RSO, the solvent being one of them. Since my dads cancer is stage 3, I want to produce the highest quality possible...and it seems like the consensus is to use naphtha to do so. I was planning on 99% ISO...having a hard time finding it. Then I read about everclear, which I can get at any liquor store here...but it seems like people say you get much less THC extracted with this method. Ugh...just writing this post makes me nervous. This stuff is expensive! And I don't want to mess it up. I'll try to post some pics once I get started and let you know my results...but any other tips would be appreciated!

OH! And I have just started to read about this Green Dragon soda/tea stuff....would this be another option?

They don't like us to use links here, sorry, but I would order the 99% isopropyl alcohol online or go with the everclear. I have heard too many horror stories with using naphtha. Naphtha can be very dangerous and confusing in finding the safe to use naphtha. Either way, I keep hearing so many bad things about it, I would recommend staying away from it.

I have not tried 190 everclear myself, but my best guess is that it is just not as efficient. It can still produce premium oil though. I am pretty confident of that.

Maybe do your first batch with the 190 since you can conveniently get it. It would be good practice too. It should tide you over until you can order and receive the 99% isopropyl alcohol.

Good luck and God bless.

"I want to produce the highest quality possible...and it seems like the consensus is to use naphtha to do so. I was planning on 99% ISO...having a hard time finding it. Then I read about everclear, which I can get at any liquor store here...but it seems like people say you get much less THC extracted with this method. Ugh...just writing this post makes me nervous. This stuff is expensive! And I don't want to mess it up. I'll try to post some pics once I get started and let you know my results...but any other tips would be appreciated!

OH! And I have just started to read about this Green Dragon soda/tea stuff....would this be another option?"

If you want the highest quality of an oil that actually does shrink tumors.
Use the recipe from the horses mouth.
"Run from the cure"

99% iso is hard to find.
91% is available at most drugstores
And 70% is useable but also picks up water soluble components that are undesired.
You can remove some, but not all of the water, with table salt.

Same goes for Ethanol.
The highest proof that is commercially available is 181. That's 90.5 % Ethanol.
The highest proof sold in the islands is 151. that's 75.5 %
Same story with water soluble components.

If you can't find clean naphtha, I'd go with the 91% isopropyl.

The trick with alcohol extraction is freezing temperatures.
Put the buds, the solvent, funnel, filter-papers and the containers in the freezer overnight.
Do 2 quick, (3 minutes), washes, keeping everything a cold as you can.
That freezes out the water, chlorophyll, etc. and yields a honey colored, very pure oil.
Then use a fan to do the evaporation at room temperature.

Patience is advised.
When it looks done, do it some more. :)

It will look like coffee with cream.
Then small black dots form and turn into large, black, globs.
At the end there is some water left over.
It will look reddish.
We call that "red oil."
It has very little psychoactive effect and tastes nasty so we usually discard it.

Then, set it on a coffee warmer and watch it closely.
When large, (air & solvent), bubbles stop and the tiny, (CO₂), bubbles start to taper off, it's done.
Start with a match head size dose 2 or 3 times per day and increase the size of the dose as he builds a tolerance.

I advise against using Butane.
It's very dangerous and the end product appears to be less effective as a cancer treatment.

Aloha,
Weezard

Big thanks for the speedy response Weezard! I was just logging on to ask if I should be freezing overnight! So, I picked up some 190 proof grain alcohol today for my first test run. I may switch to ISO if this batch doesn't come out powerful enough. Will 3 minute washes be enough time if I am using everclear (190 proof)? Some people have mentioned the everclear takes longer to remove the trichomes?

Also, with the everclear, do I need to cook it down in a rice cooker? You mentioned just using a fan and letting it evaporate at room temp. That seems like it would take a couple of days? Maybe I am wrong?

Actually, in a shallow pan it only takes all day. :)
And does pick up water from the air.

A rice cooker will speed it up, but you still need to use a fan.
Ethanol vapor burns with an almost invisible flame.
And with the right vapor to air ratio, is explosive.
I only do it out doors, with a fan, and use an induction heater for the boil.

My rig re-condenses the ethanol for re-use.
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So the vapor is mostly contained
I still use the fan though, because Murphy lurks.
Might not see vapor leaking until half past ignition.

And, that stuff is too expensive to just boil or burn off, yah?

"Some people have mentioned the everclear takes longer to remove the trichomes?"

I did not find that to be the case.
I inspect the buds with my Eyeclops 100X 'scope before and after the soak
3 minutes will work fine if you shake the jar well, and for maximum yield you could do 5 minutes without picking up to much chlorophyll.
Best to stick with 3 minutes and do two rinses though.
Because as soon as the temperature goes north of freezing your amber oil will turn fluorescent green and taste quite nasty.

If you leave the spent buds in the filter paper at the end for can watch the green color appear as they warm up.


Weigh the buds before you start, then weigh the oil.
I have ended with 21% yield, but it was superior bud to start with.

Aloha,
Weeze

You the man Weezard! :thumbsup:

So here will be my process:

1. froze buds and 190 proof grain alcohol overnight.
2. separate buds by hand and place into jar
3. pour alcohol over buds until submerged
4. Shake shake shake! for 3 min.
5. Pour through filter into rice cooker (I'd like to speed it up slightly instead of waiting and watching all day at room temp)
6. Add plant buds back into jar for second wash (pour alcohol over buds again)
7. Shake it up baby. 3min.
8. pour through filter into rice cooker
8.5. maybe a third wash?!
9. Bring cooker outside and place on high. Fan will be used to carry vapors away.
10. Watch carefully until it boils down fairly low
11. transfer to a pyrex glass measuring cup and place on coffee warmer
12. Stare at bubbles! Until they are all gone. Wonder how long this will take?
13. slurp it up with a syringe...I now have liquid gold.

How does this sound?

I would like to start out curing my cancer. What is the recommended dosage? If I take one grain of rice, I am high for as many as 7 hours. But then what? How do I get on incurring regime?

Thank you
Cheri

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Spot on!
Don't forget gloves.
Them jars get cold.
And the filtering takes time.

I did the whole thing inside the chest freezer because our ambient is >80 F..

6. Leave them in the jar.
Just decant the liquid into the filter and pour in more chilled solvent right away.
Then you can get to shaking while the filter drains.


8.5. Go for it. Probably less than 5% on the third rinse but it beats trying to squeeze out the last of the solvent from the spent bud.

I give the spent buds to a friend who is trying to quit smoking tobacco but is subject to random piss tests.
He calls it O'Doules. :)


12. It takes a while to get hot enough to bubble.
And much depends on how much solvent is still present when you start.

I can tell you that the tiny bubble phase takes less than half an hour.
And the stare at it constantly part was for folks with poor reading comprehension.

You actually understood the process right off.
So, trust your judgement.
You can see, hear, and smell the progress.
After the first de-carb vigil, you will know when, and for how long, you can risk leaving it unattended, yah?

When this is done, I'd like to mine you for information about the effects of the Whipple.
My wife has a litter of neuro-endocrine tumors in her pancreas.
Small, and benign, so far.
We are watching them closely.
I assume it's like instant onset diabetes?

Meh, we've already muddied this thread a bit.
Perhaps we should start a new thread in the medical forum to document your progress.

Aloha,
Weeze

The answer is in the question.

It would seem to indicate a grain of rice every 7-8 hours.
3 times a day

Unless you need to get things done.
Then twice a day dosage will do.

Increase the dosage gradually as your tolerance builds.
And know that not all oil is created equal.
Less potent oil?
Higher dosage.

What's important is to start low and increase gradually.
If you take too much at once, it can be a rocky ride.

May we ask what kind of cancer you are treating?

Aloha,

Weezard

@Weezard Woop! I'm at the boiling process now (in cooker). Seems to be working fairly well! I have a "pee" colored liquid that is slowly shrinking. I've done a pretty small batch, only 3/4 OZ...so I'm not expecting major results...hopefully I get at least a few drops. :(

One more question and I will start a new thread to document progress. How do you clean your equipment out? Would dish soap be good? Seems to remove the sticky residue from my hands quite well. Aloha!

Well first I rinse with warm alcohol to reclaim traces
I also rinse it from swatches of paper towel that I wipe spills with.

Then just pop 'em in the dishwasher.
You should get about 4 grams.
A tad over 1/8th oz.

Good job!
Weeze

Ok...I'm still warming on the coffee warmer. LOTS of bubbles...but its more like a foam. They don't seem to be popping. Should I just let it keep going until they are all gone by themselves? Should I stir? If I leave it on the warmer too long will it burn the oil?

Mission complete! I ended up with approx 4 grams...although it was super hard to suck it up into the syringe. This stuff is soooooo sticky. I mean like, you cannot wash it off your skin or utensils or teeth sticky. Is it supposed to be so sticky?

A trip to Amazon.com in search of rice cookers and coffee cup warmers resulted in page after page of possibilities. Can anyone here recommend a particular brand of cooker and warmer that has worked out well for them? Would sure hate to ruin my first batch of RSO by buying inferior equipment.
Ken

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Originally Posted by WKRMN

Mission complete! I ended up with approx 4 grams...although it was super hard to suck it up into the syringe. This stuff is soooooo sticky. I mean like, you cannot wash it off your skin or utensils or teeth sticky. Is it supposed to be so sticky?

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Yes, yes it is.
Especially on the teeth.
That's why I use capsules.

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Sticky just means that you got all the solvent out.
And it's safe to consume.
In moderation. :)

Have to keep it hot to "suck it up".
At 80 F. it's a hard squeeze to fill the caps.

Oh, and stirring is advised at the final stage.
I use a round kine toothpick to prick the bubbles and stir.
No want to scorch it.
Probably should have mentioned that.

Wipe the toothpick with a small piece of paper towel.
Save those pieces and toss them in with the next batch.

And you will find it more efficient to make larger batches.
You get the same amount of waste but it's a smaller percentage of the yield.

Well done brah!
Take a bow.

Aloha,
Weeze

I want to cure a cancer! What is the oil dosage? Are you loking for "patients"? or subjects for astudy? I'm very interested!

regards,
Cheri

Capsules are definitely the smart way to go. I was sucking this stuff of my teeth for an hour last night! I only tried a small amount (basically licked a toothpick I used to stir the final burn off)...didn't feel anything until I woke up at 3am due to a storm...oh man, I felt super relaxed. Ok...enough posting here...time to start a new journal. Thanks again everyone! I'll post pics in the new thread of my process as well...it was way easier than I thought!

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Originally Posted by Weezard

Yes, yes it is.
Especially on the teeth.
That's why I use capsules.

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Sticky just means that you got all the solvent out.
And it's safe to consume.
In moderation. :)

Have to keep it hot to "suck it up".
At 80 F. it's a hard squeeze to fill the caps.

Oh, and stirring is advised at the final stage.
I use a round kine toothpick to prick the bubbles and stir.
No want to scorch it.
Probably should have mentioned that.

Wipe the toothpick with a small piece of paper towel.
Save those pieces and toss them in with the next batch.

And you will find it more efficient to make larger batches.
You get the same amount of waste but it's a smaller percentage of the yield.

Well done brah!
Take a bow.

Aloha,
Weeze

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True for the first batches of oil that I have made referring to the sticking to the teeth. All of the oil I make now it almost instantly dissolves. There is very minimal sticking to the teeth if at all.

No chlorophyll or other unwanted elements. When I get the oil to come out amber or a translucent golden color, it is more runny and it dissolves in the mouth much better. It tastes great too! That doesn't necessarily mean that it is any better medicinally. Just the way I prefer it.

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Originally Posted by kwilal

A trip to Amazon.com in search of rice cookers and coffee cup warmers resulted in page after page of possibilities. Can anyone here recommend a particular brand of cooker and warmer that has worked out well for them? Would sure hate to ruin my first batch of RSO by buying inferior equipment.
Ken

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I use these. Not allowed to leave links, but each of these items can be found on Amazon just search the item descriptions.

Coffee Cup Warmer - Mr. Coffee MWBLK Mug Warmer

Rice Cooker - Aroma Arc-3-Cup (Uncooked) 6-Cup (Cooked) Rice Cooker and Food Steamer

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Originally Posted by WKRMN

Ok...I'm still warming on the coffee warmer. LOTS of bubbles...but its more like a foam. They don't seem to be popping. Should I just let it keep going until they are all gone by themselves? Should I stir? If I leave it on the warmer too long will it burn the oil?

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Stir it around with a toothpick. Sometimes I will put some coins between the coffee cup warmer and metal dish the oil is in to regulate the heat better.

I have noticed with the transparent oil (made using a quick frozen wash with top shelf, bone dry buds) it can be runnier and more difficult to purge the alcohol. I also noticed that some of the bubbles are actually air bubbles. What I do is turn it off, cover it with a baggie so no dust can get in it and leave it off overnight. Warm it back up the next morning. You may need to let it cool down and warm it back up a couple of times to get all of the air bubbles out.

Certainly, do not over heat it. It will ruin the oil if you do.

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Originally Posted by cheri_shop

I want to cure a cancer! What is the oil dosage? Are you loking for "patients"? or subjects for astudy? I'm very interested!

regards,
Cheri

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If you are referring to me, I would love to be able to march forward. However, just recently in Michigan a COA ruling has banned all concentrates. I can't make anymore oil until it gets to the Supreme Court and reverses that ruling. It is just too bad.

As far as dosage, it depend upon the potency of the oil. Rule of thumb, three equal size doses per day. On average, a gram per day (cc). Super elite oil, may only require 1/2 gram per day. Lower grade oil may require two to four grams per day. If a dose the size of a grain of rice taken three times per day blows your mind, then one gram per day should be just fine.

:D

Thanks for the info GrowGoddess, will hit Amazon.com tonight. Just out of curiosity, I've noticed folks here always talking about 3 portions per day about the size of a grain of rice to equal a gram. When I squirt the syringe onto a piece of bread I usually end up with a line about 4 inches in length, much larger than the 3 grains of rice reference. I know the scale I use is good (Mettler) because a brass test weight of 50 grams registers 49.937 on it. Is it just me or have others experienced the same scenario? Possible reason?
Ken

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Originally Posted by kwilal

Thanks for the info GrowGoddess, will hit Amazon.com tonight. Just out of curiosity, I've noticed folks here always talking about 3 portions per day about the size of a grain of rice to equal a gram. When I squirt the syringe onto a piece of bread I usually end up with a line about 4 inches in length, much larger than the 3 grains of rice reference. I know the scale I use is good (Mettler) because a brass test weight of 50 grams registers 49.937 on it. Is it just me or have others experienced the same scenario? Possible reason?
Ken

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to further explain, it is best for a patient to start off with doses around the size of a grain of rice three times per day to see how the oil effects them. Then work your way up to larger doses, three times per day to work up to doses that will equal to about one gram per day. Typically it is around three pea size doses to equal one gram. Some patients can take more, some can only handle less.
It is not actually by gram, it is more measured by cc or mL. Basically people consider 1 mL or 1 cc equaling a gram. It is close.

I have one of those brass weights too! Coincidentally the only one I have is a 50gram weight. The older nickles weigh exactly 5 grams. Sometimes they say 4.9 or 5.1, but when I stack up 10 of them it always read 50 grams on my digitals. The new nickles are lighter.

Hello to all, I am a newbie on here. Long time advocate but now am faced with some rheumatic issues that I'm trying to deal with. I was wondering If I could get some help. I recently made my first batch of oil. I was reluctant to use any solvents just in case I didn't do something right. I decided to use Everclear 151. I figured even if it has got to be awful tasting and awful for you, at least it was made for consumption? Anyway, I put about 2 gallon freezer bags of trim and popcorn from a recent grow of purple elephant and another heavy indica dominant strain. I let it soak in the everclear for weeks, shaking periodically. I strained the liquid, squeezing all I could through cheesecloth as well as through a coffee filter into a pyrex dish that I sat on top of an Oster flameless burner. It took a long time to evaporate. Eventually everthing appeared to bubble off. It actually even seemed to get a little hot being on low once most of the alcohol evaporated but I quickly removed it. I poured it into some containers. I was concerned about sucking it up into the plastic syringes because of the oil being warm and the plastic syringes, maybe it was cause toxins from the plastic to leech into the oil? Maybe I'm worried about nothing? I also didn't add any hemp seed oil or thin it so my oil has become fairly thick as it has cooled. I was just wondering if someone would comment on if everything sounds ok? Since I didn't think it, I thought maybe it would just be potent and would have to start with very very tiny (grain of rice) doses. Any suggestions/comments would be appreciated. Thank you and good health to all!

My only comment would be is to read this thread from the beginning.

GrowGoddess,

You seem super knowledgeable - quick question for you - I'm a little unclear as to whether RSO is available for purchase within different states of the USA. For instance, it sounds like you used to actually produce it and provide it to patients in MI for a while, but then had to stop until your MI Supreme Court made a judgement about its legality. Do you happen to know if it is available for purchase in states like CA/WA/CO?

Apologies up-front - I'm new to this whole area, but I'm convinced from all my research that I need to obtain RSO - now I'm just stuck as to how and where. Any guidance would be much appreciated.

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GrowGoddess,

You seem super knowledgeable - quick question for you - I'm a little unclear as to whether RSO is available for purchase within different states of the USA. For instance, it sounds like you used to actually produce it and provide it to patients in MI for a while, but then had to stop until your MI Supreme Court made a judgement about its legality. Do you happen to know if it is available for purchase in states like CA/WA/CO?

Apologies up-front - I'm new to this whole area, but I'm convinced from all my research that I need to obtain RSO - now I'm just stuck as to how and where. Any guidance would be much appreciated.

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I don't keep up too much on other state's mmj laws, but From what I understand, in CA it can be purchased, but you are not allowed to make it. Crazy as it sounds. I believe you must be a CA registered mmj patient though.

I don't really know much about CO or WA, however in 2014 you may be able to purchase it over the counter in CO.

Regardless, typically oil that is for sale is below par. As always, I highly recommend obtaining quality buds and make the oil yoursel

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Originally Posted by jbslc

GrowGoddess,

You seem super knowledgeable - quick question for you - I'm a little unclear as to whether RSO is available for purchase within different states of the USA. For instance, it sounds like you used to actually produce it and provide it to patients in MI for a while, but then had to stop until your MI Supreme Court made a judgement about its legality. Do you happen to know if it is available for purchase in states like CA/WA/CO?

Apologies up-front - I'm new to this whole area, but I'm convinced from all my research that I need to obtain RSO - now I'm just stuck as to how and where. Any guidance would be much appreciated.

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I don't keep up too much on other state's mmj laws, but From what I understand, in CA it can be purchased, but you are not allowed to make it. Crazy as it sounds. I believe you must be a CA registered mmj patient though.

I don't really know much about CO or WA, however in 2014 you may be able to purchase it over the counter in CO.

Regardless, typically oil that is for sale is below par. As always, I highly recommend obtaining quality buds and make the oil yoursel

Hello,
My mom had a ovary cancer in 2007 and she had immediately 6 courses of chimo. In 2010 she got her tumor marks sky high and they did the scan and saw the cancer cell spread to few of her lymphs. She got a surgical intervention and got them all removed following another 6 courses of chimo. In mid 2011 she had another surgery to clean more lyphs following another course of 6 chimo therapies. In mid 2012 she had another course of chimo but her scans show no spread or major organ damages. She just recently went to get tested and her tumor marks are almost 100 and she is about to get scanned this week. I assume they will do another set of therapies as much as she can tolerate.
My question is in regards to the RSO, is it going to yield any results by maintaining her tumor markers low and hopefully even eliminate them. I will be making the oil myself if I am unable to locate a reliable vendor here in California.
She will most likely start chemos as the markers off the charts currently and I will have the oil for her ready when she is off the chemo.
I was interested in contacting the member Vacko from page two on this thread as he had similar problem with his wife but he stopped sharing his experience with the oil like an year ago. I would really appreciate if I could send him a personal message on the board but I tried and it does not allow me to do so.
I would appreciate any feedback in the success of RSO with this sort of cancer issues.
Thank you folks for the awesome thread so far. I am sure it gave hope and more options to many people victims to cancer.

Jojoba,

You will have to do what you think is best. My opinion is, I would go through the complete RSO program, 90 - 120 grams of quality RSO. Then go to maintenance doses after that. I would not take the chemo treatments. I don't fully trust the tumor marker tests. There have been so many false positives and patients are put through the chemo treatments when it was not necessary.

No matter what you decide, I would start taking the RSO now, not after chemo.

Go with what your heart tells you, not what other people tell you.

Good luck and God bless.

Something I would like to add that I am very confident in.

After making the RSO it is not truly ready. I have noticed that some batches are two weeks and others up to 8 weeks before the oil is fully decarbed. That means all the testing and such that I read about is pretty much BS. Without knowing the date the oil was made and when it was sent in for testing. The results are worthless to me. Any testing on the concentrates for THC is worthless to me unless the oil was at least 8 weeks old before being sent in for testing. I have noticed very big differences in the same batch of oil taken weeks apart.

My last batch took 6 weeks to show its full potency. Week 5 compared to week 6, there was at least a 100% increase in potency. Maybe this is because of the methods I use or the strains, I do not know for sure. What I do know, if I make oil again, I will allow it to cure for at least 8 weeks before use. Possibly sooner if I run out. Now that I know of this, I will make sure that I have at least an 8 week supply between batches.

Some of my other batches, they seemed to have peaked in about 2 weeks. The cleaner and higher quality of oil, it seems like it took more time to fully decarb and reach its highest potency.

Another thing I have noticed is that there have been a few times that I have had oil in storage for more than a year and I did not notice any loss of potency. It was stored in syringes which were sealed in a jar.

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Something I would like to add that I am very confident in.

After making the RSO it is not truly ready. I have noticed that some batches are two weeks and others up to 8 weeks before the oil is fully decarbed. That means all the testing and such that I read about is pretty much BS. Without knowing the date the oil was made and when it was sent in for testing. The results are worthless to me. Any testing on the concentrates for THC is worthless to me unless the oil was at least 8 weeks old before being sent in for testing. I have noticed very big differences in the same batch of oil taken weeks apart.

My last batch took 6 weeks to show its full potency. Week 5 compared to week 6, there was at least a 100% increase in potency. Maybe this is because of the methods I use or the strains, I do not know for sure. What I do know, if I make oil again, I will allow it to cure for at least 8 weeks before use. Possibly sooner if I run out. Now that I know of this, I will make sure that I have at least an 8 week supply between batches.

Some of my other batches, they seemed to have peaked in about 2 weeks. The cleaner and higher quality of oil, it seems like it took more time to fully decarb and reach its highest potency.

Another thing I have noticed is that there have been a few times that I have had oil in storage for more than a year and I did not notice any loss of potency. It was stored in syringes which were sealed in a jar.

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This brings up a very interesting point. Last year I took free rso from a 'collective' vendor, legitimately given thru the collective. Due to the quantity, I took the 3 pea sized doses and THAT was the dose that seemed to 'start' helping my issues. At that point, I stopped the rso and getting my ducks in a row to re-start, at proper dose.

What amuses me of the above statement is, the last time I spoke with the vendor that made the oil I preferred, He said, "I've been letting the oil 'dry out' until it is hard. My patients love it much better!" Which really does support your statement, GrowGoddess!

I inquired how long it takes until it is hard, and he said, "as long as it takes." Weeks or months.

Thank You GG for posting your results, just :( I have to come here to get this!


Another comment that same vendor/rso maker made was; "I use the Entire Plant!" I have to tell you, his rso was the absolute best. He also said he puts the plant in an 'olive press'---IDK anything about doing that, but he does grow and make plenty. :rasta: pr

he uses naptha instead of alcohol.

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Originally Posted by GrowGoddess

Something I would like to add that I am very confident in.

After making the RSO it is not truly ready. I have noticed that some batches are two weeks and others up to 8 weeks before the oil is fully decarbed. That means all the testing and such that I read about is pretty much BS. Without knowing the date the oil was made and when it was sent in for testing. The results are worthless to me. Any testing on the concentrates for THC is worthless to me unless the oil was at least 8 weeks old before being sent in for testing. I have noticed very big differences in the same batch of oil taken weeks apart.

My last batch took 6 weeks to show its full potency. Week 5 compared to week 6, there was at least a 100% increase in potency. Maybe this is because of the methods I use or the strains, I do not know for sure. What I do know, if I make oil again, I will allow it to cure for at least 8 weeks before use. Possibly sooner if I run out. Now that I know of this, I will make sure that I have at least an 8 week supply between batches.

Some of my other batches, they seemed to have peaked in about 2 weeks. The cleaner and higher quality of oil, it seems like it took more time to fully decarb and reach its highest potency.

Another thing I have noticed is that there have been a few times that I have had oil in storage for more than a year and I did not notice any loss of potency. It was stored in syringes which were sealed in a jar.

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I am chopping my first crop tomorrow. The first thing I want to do is make the oil. If, as you say, it takes 6-weeks for full potency, that's a pretty long time for a cancer patient to wait. Is it okay to start right after the oil is made? I just have minor aches & pains so what would be a maintenance dose? I live on the west side of Michigan & I am legal.
The second thing I want is to make liquid for my e-cigarettes. My e-liquid juice is made up of pop. glycol & vegetable glycerin. I refill my own cartridges. Do you think if I added some RSO to the bottle of the juice (without the nicotine) that I buy, it would work? I am assuming that's it's legal to make the oil for myself?
Thank you for all your information.

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I am chopping my first crop tomorrow. The first thing I want to do is make the oil. If, as you say, it takes 6-weeks for full potency, that's a pretty long time for a cancer patient to wait. Is it okay to start right after the oil is made? I just have minor aches & pains so what would be a maintenance dose? I live on the west side of Michigan & I am legal.
The second thing I want is to make liquid for my e-cigarettes. My e-liquid juice is made up of pop. glycol & vegetable glycerin. I refill my own cartridges. Do you think if I added some RSO to the bottle of the juice (without the nicotine) that I buy, it would work? I am assuming that's it's legal to make the oil for myself?
Thank you for all your information.

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Yes, you can start eating or using the oil as soon as it is made. The buzz is kind of different, more comfortable and you can consume higher amounts. A basic maintenance dose is about the size of a grain of rice. A lot of that really depends upon how potent the oil is. It is difficult to properly advise unless I know the potency of the oil. A lower potency oil may require a small pea size dose. Super high potency oil may only require a half grain of rice size dose. Start off small and work up to what your body tells you is enough or too much.

No, I do not recommend mixing the RSO with e-cigg oil with no nicotine. The reason why is the e-cigg oil has vegetable glycerine in it, the other half is PG USP. You don't want the VG. It does not mix properly with RSO, there is no need for it. What you want to do is mix PG USP with the RSO. Many of the e-ciggarette shops sell PG USP. Some places call it Kosher Propylene Glycol USP, medical/food grade. Google search for a thread "My Experience With Portable Vaporizers (Pen Vaporizers) For Concentrated Cannabis Oil And E-Cigarette Oil" That may help answer more of your questions.

My all around favorite vaporizing rig is eGo C Twist 650 Variable Voltage pen battery for around $20 with a basic USB charger for about $5 - $10, and for a oil vaporizing attachment (clearomizer) I like the iClear16 the best, less than $10. The iClear16 is rebuildable, you can just simply screw a new heating element into it easy. You can also use the iClear30 element in the iClear16 unit. Not sure which I like better yet.

Hi,

is it possible to buy RSO on line? I'm form Europe.
thanks

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Originally Posted by frankdante

Hi,

is it possible to buy RSO on line? I'm form Europe.
thanks

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I have heard of people in my country purchasing it from online sellers, even in my state. Same with other marijuana products. As for the quality of the material, I have no idea. I have heard some people complaining that the product was not good, that the buds were moldy.

I would not recommend trying to purchase it online. Honestly, you are lucky if you have a friend that will make quality oil. Keep in mind, some of the solvents people use, like naphtha, to make the oil, if not purged correctly, can make you sick. That is if they use the correct naphtha.

I would not recommend it, very risky, possibly dangerous. Quality RSO should cost at least $50 US per gram if not double that.

Hello everyone! I haven't posted in a loooong time. So a brief update and recap. My dad was diagnosed with stage 3 lung cancer. We made a batch of RSO which turned out great. He only took it a few times and said it gave him a headache. ah well...he basically gave up on it. doctors start chemo and radiation. Lung cancer has now decreased due to the raditation...but the cancer has now spread to other areas of his body including his hip where it has basically eaten his bone away. Hip surgery tomorrow morning. With the discovery of the new cancer spots in his body, they say it is now stage 4 and rapidly progressing.

So...he now is thinking seriously about trying the RSO. The main worry he had the first time around was that we made it ourselves from "locally" sourced herb. Meaning, we had no idea is the stuff we bought was what it was claimed to be. I'm thinking it wasn't an indica like the guy claimed...since it made my dad very awake and headaches. We now are on a search to find some real deal, medical grade herbs or better yet, real deal RSO. The problem is...we live in Minnesota and nothing is legal here.

I've been reading online that Oregon and Maine are pretty easy going on out of staters coming in and obtaining a medical marijuana card. Does anyone here have anything to say about this?

Secondly...is there any other option out there for us to find some help?

WKRMN there is another thread here on some side effects of rso. I had slight/stomach aches with some I 'received.' It was sent to the lab and found to have iso, still in it. Plant material can also cause some indigestion. At the very least with at this aggressive stage...it will certainly relieve his symptoms and pain, with luck and prayer--maybe even cure or stall the progression.. pr

Finally DID IT!!! Made my first rso with Jack Herer. I fretted for a year over absolutely nothing. I read and read and watched videos and read of some stoners burning themselves while handling the rice cooker. Had healthy fears and anxiety. Took all precautions and had a few fire extinguishers handy. Didn't lick my fingers or anything until the 'clean-up' Clean Up was the 'fun' part.

Slept the best I have in 2 years. I had tried several oils last year and noting the big 'Difference' in the oils and my effects, I knew there was a big difference. With the urging Of GrowGoddess of "Making Your Own Oil" ...Absolutely make your OWN oil, even with purchased buds. Do your homework first. I watched the video many times and read and re-read this thread and any I could find on this topic, everywhere.

Definitely make your own.

A bigger problem is getting the correct solvent in California. Naptha is no longer allowed here and a Industrial Maintenance Coating and Thinner with absolute no listed chemical name on the container, not even for poison control. The coating was what tossed me for a spin, so I passed on that. Went to Wal-Mart for syringes and iso, nope...only 70% and nothing behind the counter--probably new rules in California too! So the liquor store I went---Everclear 151 that was all I could find.. Pretty tough day. Most liquor stores only had pint bottles and I passed on that. Finally went to the 'local' liquor store and he made me a "Deal"---yes, I asked for a really GOOD Bargain deal at retail store with clearly marked prices! So he pops up with, I own 3 other liquor stores in the area and we drove to all of them and acquired the liquor including rum 151 and everclear. I can clearly see solvents as being a MAJOR ISSUE in the state of California and that was most likely the PROBLEM I discovered from different caretakers oils. And as per a previous post here is most likely WHY the naptha based oil made the BIGGEST difference from all the oils I had used and the reason I quit all oil an waiting to do it myself. Noting that in subsequent conversations with the person that made the naptha based oil had switched to vodka; now, I know why--no Naptha in Calif.

I put Half and Half cream in my rice cooker and let it boil the extra med off the sides and bottom of the rice cooker. I made some coffee and used it about 4 hours ago...the effects just comes in waves and I am more couchlocked than ever, from the 'clean-up'

Having a "PainFree" day in Southern Calif. an too stoned!!! i'll be looking for High CBD mixtures--no doubt, I cannot function on the cannacream alone!:tin foil hat:, about to see alien.:thumbsup: pr