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daihashi ~ Humidity hasn't been a problem for us. It pretty much stays at 42% inside the homebox even with the house A/C running. When it dips below 40 we just turn on the cold humidifier for a few hours (outside the tent but aimed at one of the intakes). We haven't had to use it all that much during flower.
We kept the humidty at about 50% for vegging and just refilled the humidifier once a day. Our antique furniture pieces loved the extra moisture, too.
cfl's looking money hell yea I am using those babies
Hey McToker :jointsmile:
Quick question:
I read somewhere (maybe this thread actually) that the Homebox comes in a box labeled "Homebox: Indoor grow room" (in green writing of course :wtf:) Is this true? I just want to know what the box will say. I'm fine with it saying Homebox, but I hate when companies put something about indoor growing on the delivery box. I have to have it delivered to a work place.
Thanks
smoothsmoke ~ Good Luck!
TM1 ~ I remember it did say "Homebox" but I don't recall the other. The box is long gone or I'd check for you.
That's alright. It may be a good thing that you don't recall. If I had received it labeled "Homebox: Indoor Grow Room"... I would have remembered :stoned:
There are thousands of things that could be referred to as a Homebox... so that's not so bad.
Keep us posted on those flowers :hippy:
Today's photos. This is feeding day so the girls look a bit wilted.
The 4th pic is one of the smaller buds on the larger of the two plants.
The 5th pic is a bud on the smaller plant. I tried different flash settings hoping to catch the pinkish hue of the flowers on this plant. Both plants are from the same source but different times. #4 is from Xmas '07 and #5 (the pink one) is from Summer '08. Both are bagseed so, who knows what variety they are.
We keep telling ourselves, it won't be long now.:D;):)
AWESOME!!!! your buds are looking healthy! IF you can, get your lights closer. you will see a major improvment.
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Lookin pretty awesome, McToker.
Rock on CFLs... Rock on :D
Thanks folks.
In the pics the lights were raised out of the way for feeding day. We try to arrange it where that tall cola actually comes up between several light bulbs and that puts the remaining bulbs closer to the other buds.
The older of the two girls appears to be near ready for harvest. About 10% of the trichomes are cloudy rather than clear. We went ahead and took her off nutes and switched to straight water. It just takes too long to get orders in to bother with a commercial flush product.
This is the plant that started flowering while the rest were still vegging. She started flowering about 2 1/2 weeks before we switched the lights. So, I guess she's actually about Day 64.
The younger girl has a few trichomes starting to cloud up but not enough, yet.
We couldn't wait. We took a sample bud and did a quick dry. NICE!!!:jointsmile::stoned::D
Awesome plant! You're grow makes me feel more comfortable using all cfls in my grow, you have bout 20 days or so left? maybe more? plenty of time for the flowers to plump up.
Keep up the good work
toke on
lookin really good man cant wait to hear about the smoke
We decided to let the girls fatten up a bit more. The sample bud we took was a bit fluffy and light but still providing enough smoke to hold us over. The taste is improving with each day spent in the jar.
new pix please. I wanna see how mich bigger she has gotten.
and good idea on flowering a little longer.:thumbsup:
nice job so far.
Well......... the older girl never really recovered from a Calcium/Magnesium deficiency. She lost almost all her fan leaves so we went ahead and harvested her.
The younger plant (in the photos) seemed ready, as well. The cloudy to clear ratio of the trichomes was about 50/50. It may not show in the pics but almost half of the pistels had changed color. Since we're running up against our deadline, we went ahead and harvested her, too.
I'll post a final weight when they are done drying. Since the tent is the only odor controlled space we have, we're drying the buds in there. It is also easier to control the humidity in the tent.
We'll start our next grow in January or February. Vegging will still be done with CFL's but we'll get either a 250 or 400 watt HPS for flowering. Might even try some "hempy buckets".
We sure learned a WHOLE BUNCH with this grow and really want to say a great big THANK YOU to all of you who provided info on this forum, helped us solve our problems and especially those of you that provided moral support. We couldn't have done it without all of you.
Very nice.... Looks like a healthy Cola.. CFL's rock on my low wattage brothers..:rastasmoke:d Get a 400 MH/HPS and you will be impressed with what you can achieve, I think. :thumbsup:
I liked the CFL's for vegging. Didn't need all that many. But for flowering, it takes too many. It took 483 watts to drive 21 CFL's resulting in 33,600 lumens. That's not including the two 4-foot flouros we had in there. So, a 400 watt HPS would be cheaper to run and a 250 considerably cheaper. We'll probably go for the 400, hoping for even more densly packed buds and better light penetration to the lower levels of the plants.
We'll be shifting our growing season to winter/spring. Having to keep the house A/C set lower than we usually keep it got a tad bit expensive. We'll just have to see if we can grow enough to last a year with just the one growing season.
Here's the final weigh in. The older plant from '07 beans produced 2.565 oz, dried. The smaller plant from '08 beans gave up 2.345 oz, dried.
So, the two girls gave us a total of 4.91 oz of dried bud.
This does not include a couple buds we took as samples. So, I suppose we can call it an even 5 ounces.
We're going to go with bagseed, again, for the next grow after the holidays. We still have some beans left from both the '07 and '08 bags. It will be interesting to see any final weight diference flowering with an HPS as opposed to the CFL's.
Very nice!
hey McToker -
I just read through your entire log with great interest since I am doing an entirely CFL grow also. It looks like things worked out well and I am curious to know how the smoke is? Somewhere on here there is a "template" for a smoke report, but I am struggling to find it. Anyways, any info on the smoke would be wonderful (type of high, taste, smell, smoothness, duration, appearance, etc etc). Hopefully you are noticing a positive difference in herb with no seeds. I am from a land of "pot snobs" so we never had grass with seeds in it; I guess I was lucky!
Any suggestions on things you would have done different? I am attempting to master the ghetto stealth grow due to my current living situation and I have to say it is a lot of fun.
After reading over your whole, very informative log, I feel like I was right there with you for the whole ride. Awesome grow, keep up the good work!
Peace
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Thanks Shov......
oSecret ~ As for things we would have done differently: We wouldn't have wasted so much $$ and effort on cheaper duct fans and a homemade filter. We also wouldn't have used Miracle Grow soil. Although it eventually worked out, we wouldn't use it again. We are anxious to try a batch of the same seeds again but using an HPS to flower. We can see a benefit to greater light penetration and are hoping for heavier and tighter packed buds.
Can't really give you a full smoke report yet. The buds are dry but not fully cured, yet. We've only been hitting some of the shake, so far. Already, we've noticed a difference in the taste over the original donor bag. It's a bit sweeter with a hint of freshness, like taking a breath after a new snow. The aroma has traces of skunk and spiced citrus. The smoke is not at all harsh. It's more of a head high, definitely not "couch-lock" . The buzz lasts about 45 minutes.
The sample buds we took a few weeks ago definitely imroved in both flavor and "high" intensity the longer they cured. So, we have high (no pun intended) hopes that as the final batch cures, it will improve, as well.
The best choices we made were getting a Homebox tent, a mechanism to raise and lower the lights and the Vortex fan and Carbonaire filter combo. The fan and filter worked so well at controlling odor that we'll be able to set up in the guest room for the next batch and not have to worry about permiating everything in the room with that unmistakable odor of bud.
Thanks for the quick response McToker, I will definitely think about all those suggestions. Sounds like you got some good bud out of your grow, probably much fresher then the original bag they came from. The smoke report you provided was exactly what I was looking for ... mostly to satisfy my curiosity :)
A couple of things:
How loud did the exhaust (vortex) end up being? Louder or quieter then your homemade rig? Just curious as I have noise concerns in my home.
Have you thought of doing hydro or hemp bags? I have been reading a lot about hemp bags and they seem like a VERY simple type of hydro method.
Enjoy that harvest!
:smokin:
Check out some 42 watt cfls we had good luck with them in a rubbermaid setup, we also used the LST method and it really was cool. our first time and all went well. This year we did the outdoor garden the yeild was nice and the smoke is great so cant complain other than i lost a couple, so i didnt get to have all that im allowed :( :thumbsup:
oSGo ~ The Votex fan is louder than our homemade setup was. It's slightly louder than a standard bathroom exhaust fan but not nearly as loud as the exhaust fan over the stove. There are mufflers available to help with the noise, if needed. But, we had the fan and filter outside of the tent. Had they been inside, I'm sure it would have been quieter.
We identified the spice flavor. Up until now we'd been rolling pinners with standard quality rolling papers. Last night we fired up a piece of a bud in a glass bud pipe. Woah!!! The flavor was easily recognizable. It tasted like some sage green hashish that freinds of ours brought back from Germany several years ago. I guess the thick papers were covering up the true flavor.
We've been looking into Hempy Buckets and considering experimenting with some form of that method next time.
dude9 ~ We moved a couple plants outside, too. Didn't have much luck though. We have a security light that kicks on whenever the dogs go out to the yard. Seems to have messed up the flowering cycle.
Awesome McToker, thanks for the info. Those damn vortex fans are expensive, but definitely seem like they are worth it. Probably worth the investment.
Keep me updated if you start another grow, I will DEFINITELY be following along.
Peace bro
:smokin:
Nice Grow man, i'm jelous :thumbsup:
Where'd u get those Y sockets, i live in Australia, anyone know if i can them here?
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Mine: http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...outside-p.html
Sorry for the long absence. Looks like we harvested just in time. Within a couple days after the harvest I got quite sick. Mrs. McToker finally dragged me to the hospital and a couple hours later I was in surgery for a perforated colon. It's been a loooooonnnng recovery. I'm not fully recovered but feeling good enough to get online, enjoy a bit of smoke and I've even started shopping for upgrades for the next grow.
Looks like we're going to get a larger Hombox, probably the "XL", and go with a 400 to 600 watt HPS. Heck, we may even break down and order some beans.
Wow McToke... Glad to hear you're ok man.Quote:
Originally Posted by McToker
Welcome back, and I'm looking forward to your next grow :)