Thanks Pain.
Well I am a cat person for sure. I see it as impossible to have a home ever without a cat in it.
The one on my avatar is not mine but I do have two, Pepsi and Sprite. I'll post a picture of them some time. <3
Puffzter
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Thanks Pain.
Well I am a cat person for sure. I see it as impossible to have a home ever without a cat in it.
The one on my avatar is not mine but I do have two, Pepsi and Sprite. I'll post a picture of them some time. <3
Puffzter
hey puffzter just droppin by on your log, good work on those buds mate, how long away from harvesting are you now?
Last in this post is a link to an updated detailed grow log. Excel.
BDDGrow:
This is day 33 since I flipped to 12/12 so 3-4 weeks I'd say. But I won't let anything but the actual state of the plants decide when I harvest so we'll see. I rather keep them a week or two extra than harvest early after all this work. ;)
Also, I have choosen my future genetics today. The WW plant 4 will be grandmother of my White Widows from now on. Her clones are being made into mother plants as we speak.
Pro's of plant 4: Earliest to flower. By far biggest flowers. Very good resin production. Her daughters will produce damn fine colas as well as good weed I am sure.
Con's: Way too stretchy to grow untrained indoors but from now on it will be clone SoGs so I think I can handle it.
The remaining clones were :sorry1: thrown today. That felt bad but what to do? Now I have 3 plants in my nursery.
101-0808 : Hindu Kush being trained into mother plant. Not sex coded yet and I only suspect it is a female right now. A week back a male showed up and this one put in the ground at same time as that one haven't shown sex so it should be female. Time will tell for sure.
004-002-0808-F : Clone of plant 4 WW. Being trained into a mother.
004-002-001-0809-F: Clone of the WW above. Also being trained into a mother.
Codes are explained in the Excel sheets but roughly first cluster is strain and serial number. Following clusters are for generations of clones. Last numerical cluster is yymm (year/month) they were started and last letter sex. Think that system will be ok. Thought it out to be able to follow everything I grow in the future back to original seed. The excel sheet has a history section were info about every individual is put in. So in 3 years I can come back and see what happened to the genetics over generations of cloning.
Dunno if I will but IF I still grow it will be valuable informaton.
Link to detailed grow diary in excel:
http://www.savefile.com/files/1775677
Puffzter
Sorry, I can access that link, Puff.
Same Shovel, dunno what's wrong. However, copy the link as text and paste it into your browser and it works.
www.savefile.com/files/1775677
Puffzter
I just started my first coco grow myself. I'm treating it like hydro and watering with ph 5.9-6.0 water. Can you tell me what PH you used to water your plants?
I'll be hand watering through veg and setting up a home made drip ring system for flowering set up on a timer to water about 2-3 times a day. Just to keep it nice and evenly moist with a flush every 4-5 weeks.
Let me know about the PH, I would greatly appreciate it. I think I'm doing everything right so far and just want to see what you did since your plants grew so healthy looking.
I keep pH 5.5-5.7
And yes you do right by treating your coco grow as a hydro because that is what it is.
Good luck m8 and thanks for the kind words.
Puffzter
Day 36 bloom.
Now its time to nuke these babies.
The plan is to go extremelly hard on nutes for about two weeks now. In 6-7 days I will flush them and directly renute the coco with the same strong nute mix. The flush is to get rid of the saltbuild up that is ineviteble (spelling) with this hard nuking.
After this period I will go down to 1300-1400ppm again until they are very close to ready (should be about a week at 1300-1400) for harvest and then flush them the last 3-4 days and also keep them in darkness the last 36 hours to degrade some chlorophyll.
I will harvest at 50-80% amber.
Now, the strength I uped to today is a stunning 1850ppm above tapwater. A total of 2100ppm!
I have had them on 1600 above tapwater (total 1850) before with no signs of overnuting so we'll see how this goes. If its too hard I go down a tad but they will get it hard for two weeks now.
Also raised the pH to 5.8 to give them better access to the nutes. Gonna be interesting to see if they are smoking tomorrow at lights on, hehe...
Puffzter
Very impressive!!! I have been reading through your log and it is really motivating me to get one of those growing tents. Seems to definitely be worth the investment. Where'd you get yours??
My goodness, you have really researched and figured this out. I have read coco will increase the effectiveness of nutes! But followed with the flushing, freq. sounds like a good plan and will be very interesting! I think people in some other logs would mail you coco! lol
I am so impressed with all you have done with such little time! IMPRESSED!! I can't rep again, but gonna try!:thumbsup: :jointsmile: pr
I know you studied this all extensively (as I recall your thread and do not re-read each time-this time, but look a pix): And over 3 mos. Was it 24/7 study? I've been reading, etc and have still yet to get (weather permiting) the balls you got! Or it is brains, sorry! Do you mind telling me what all you studied? I think I need to study same way! And just get top grade for my area female seeds and go for it. Plus a few strays from some friends for special need buds! If I study as well and hard as you--it should be just fine!!:D thanz for the learning!!! U iz :cool:
Rsxesevah:
Thanks for taking an interest m8. The grow tent I use is a Secret Jardin Darkroom. It is very good with a lot of options as to how you want to direct the airflow etc. Also possible to access the plants from 3 sides so you dont need to take all out to reach a plant in the back. It is coated in Mylar on all surfaces inside from factory. :D
Pain:
My love on CanCom. (If you are a chick :P)
Well when my interest was hooked I started with reading some basics on growers forums just to understand some essentials and after that watched a few movies. Jose Cervantes made two that are very good for basic knowledge for exemple. After that I was really interested and almost cut back on my sleeping time for a month just consuming articles about more and more advanced techniques and genetics etc. One thing I always use as a guideline when studying something is that nothing is true until it is verified from more than one source and on internet u need to triple that so I kept on reading so much that it was hard to find more. Started to stumble over the same stuff more and more. CanCom, Icmag, rollitup.org, uk420.com, youtube, pirate bay and much much more. I vacumed the internet. :) I also found some materials from commercial professional growers that I actually started to understand whith the knowledge I had collected. It was jibberish when I looked at it at first and I didn't get just why they did as they did but now I do and can use what is possible to apply on small scale ops as my own. Some of this is easy to find. For exemple search on Green house on youtube or Pirate bay and you will find some info from Arjan posted directly by them. Arjan is one of the best growers/breeders alive imho. Other info is harder to get but always possible.
It's fun to sniff around for more, find something new. Try to verify it. And ofc to finally put it to practise.
I started quite simple and the goal with the first time around is to see what works and not. Problem is I had so few problems I haven't had to solve a lot. :P I also wanted a "grow as you please" grow first time to see for myself how the plants develop when left to grow as they want. I did FIM one as a reference but 4 are left more or less untouched. Well 2 also had to be stopped when they tried to grow through the roof. hehe.
Anyway thats the storry of my waken month(s) in Mj growing "school".
In real life I studied first science and after that economics and law by the way. I was a racedriver as well but crashed after some years of international racing in Europe, broke my back (quite low luckilly)and are home with tons of time to spare so that's why I needed a close to home hobby that is interesting and I can throw myself at.
Hmm, another novel sized post. Sorry.
Puffzter
LOL!
They took it like a charm. No nute burns at a stunning 2100ppm. These bitches know how to eat!
So what happened during the last 12 ours at that nute level is that they made CRYSTALS like mad. The difference just these last 12 hours is insane. If I can keep this nute level up for two weeks, and I don't see why not, and then ease off as I stated in my plan 2 posts ago I will have some mean buds at harvest.
I took a pic with the crap camera in HPS light just to give an idea. In white light from the flash at lights out tonight you will see them sparkling. The HPS light makes it impossible to get a good pic of that but use some imagination until then.
:D :D :D :D :D
A top on plant 4:
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/de6cece9.jpg
Puffzter
holy crap dude.. that is sexy as hell. What a big difference that is.
First thing I do when I have cash to spare is buy a real camera instead of the $100 crap I have here. :(
Out of 30-40 pix these are the best. Sorry.
Day 37 12/12...
4 of the 6 colas of plant 5 with some of the other plants in the background:
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0545.jpg
Cola plant 1 with some random buds around it:
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0546.jpg
I hope you get the general idea at least. Too much white (if that's possible on the buds now so this shit camera only translates it all into white blur.
Puffzter
Just make sure you give em a good flushing, with all the nutes you're using you dont want to risk the taste of the genetics too much. The article in the last hightimes to come out is very informative check it out :thumbsup:
Ye.
I know, and as I said a few posts back they will be kept supernuted for only two weeks now, then I ease off a bit until the flush before harvest. :)
High Times is not on shelves arounf Europe by the way. :(
Information is readilly availible for those who seeks though and that I always do.
My general plan of how I will handle the remaining time of this grow is decided on now and from here on in it's all about reacting to problems which I hope wont occure.
Thanks for checking in by the way, always glad to see a new face.
Puffzter
Hi Cyber sweetheart,
Right, good guess, female!
Those new pix, jump right out and tickle my nose!! Nothing wrong with that camera!!! Especially, the operator!
I use to have a neighbor that was retired race driver :thumbsup:. He also made professional race tracks around the world. His son now makes the tracks. :thumbsup: I had him make one in my yard to put the ATV kids on a professional race track and off the roads! It worked! He had pictures of teaching Loretta Lynn to drive and all kinds of people he met while driving.:D He even taugh me how to drive better to hit a cow instead of roll my vehicle to avoid it!! A lot more to it than anyone could possibly imagine. Ever do the Baja--watched this years, was good! :cool:
Hope U don't mind off topic. You get me so excited about growing, I can't stand it! Imagine. . . .
This is such a fantastic grow!!! ;) Once again, thank you for so much more info! I have only scratched the surface on the books. Is High Times illegal there (want a copy)?:)
That is the perfect hobby for your work! My neighbor had many back surgeries! He used beer and whatever else for his pain, you have a big leg up!
Catch ya later, I need to call a sick friend.
PR
Pain:
High Times is natrually not illegal its just not sold. Think distribution will be too expensive/sold copy tbh.
And offtopic is allowed in my thread. :) I will only "moderate" it if it truly gets out of hand. I mean part of the reason I post a log is to get to know some ppl here as well.
And work I haven't since. I am motorically ok. Well wheelchair ofc but I can stand up aven walk a few steps but very badly and only a few meters. However my back is my problem. I crushed it quite badly and It keeps me off the job market as I can't really be away more than an hour or two regularilly. Social security is quite good here though so I can live quite well compared to many others around the globe in the same situation.
Well.
What ya think about the 4 visible colas of that plant 5 by the way? :D And it still has 3 weeks minimum to ge hehe. There is a 5th not visible on that pic that is just as big as the biggest visible and a 6th that is a bit smaller.
The other plants natrually have big ones as well but since they are not FIM'd they only got one a piece and a bit bigger buds on the side branches which the FIMd one hasen't really.
Gonna be interesting to compare results between the plants in the end.
Puffzter
oh man.. those look tasty. Recently Ive just been laying in the room with my cab and soaking in the smell. The WW smells so dank yet clean and mine isnt even booming yet! Its just so much bud dude! Its so inspiring to see a first time grower having so much success. I may have to find my way over there when you get that mass harvested:D:thumbsup:
Thanks man. I am very happy here. :)
Was out yesterday and a friend had gotten some G13 Haze with her from Amsterdam and for some reason drunk as I was and knowing better I thought that was a 80% Sativa when I in fact know it is a 80% Indica. I hit that joint with a vengeance and one of the worlds strongest weed combined with it being a heavy Indica put me in a cab fighting hard to stay awake until I was home. Man that shit baked me.
Colors and patterns exploding in front of my eyes even. lol. Bad judgement combined with a LONG break and half a pure joint of the strongest weed in the world in a few minutes = end of evening. :P
Anyway, back to my WWs.
They are fattening up and producing tons of resin now. When grabbing the stems a bit under the buds and moving them back and forth you can really feel the weight of the colas.
Today is day 38 of 12/12. I keep them in 45-55% Humidity, 25-28 degrees C (about 77-82 F) and pH5.8 now. Nutes as I said is VERY hard. 1850ppm above tapwater a total of 2100ppm and they are loving it.
Puffzter
Puffz, it sounds like all is well with you, my friend! Sometimes it's a good thing to push the reset button in your brain like it sounds you did with the libations and G13! Glad to hear you made it home safe and sound. It's good catching up with you a bit through your posts.
Your WWs are looking incredible. That Plant 5 has been a wild woman for awhile now, and she's looking quite frosty these days. I can't believe all of those huge buds! She's sporting some serious bazoombas for certain. I'm glad to see they're drinking down all of that high powered fire water you're throwing at them. I'm sure you'll see some incredible growth, and it sounds like you should be able to flush all of the fire water out to save what should be some really sweet tastin' smoke.
Cheers! Take good care out there!
Hejsan Svejsan give a shout and ill help you with any leftover bud... j/k it looks frikkin awsum bro...
once im through living with other people i think ill copy your project only ill make it a solid box instead of tent because that result looks sooooo good... hope my own widows turn out half as nice
Jake:
Nice to see you back man. And ye I sure made up for lost time yesterday but not in a very smart way. :P
Thanks for the kind words about my babies also.
Danish:
You're welcome m8. A weekend of WW Guitarr Hero and a couple of movies after harvest, he? ;)
I was thinking about a solid box as well but I would need help putting that together and I want to minimize the people knowing about the op so I went for a tent, haven't looked back since. The Secret Jardins are very very nice and make it possible to choose very precicelly how you want to direct the airflow, there are just so many vent holes that you can close and open as you see fit. Also there are openings on both sides and the front so you can reach in and work on the plants easilly.
The last thing would be that when you move or are not growing you can just pull it down in 10 minutes and pack it up.
Puffzter
Got a couple of pics of plant 1 and 2 which I haven't really posted any pics of before in any decent quality so here you go.
Day 39 12/12.
All plants 100% healthy and putting on more and more weight. :D
Plant 1 Cola
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0561.jpg
Plant 2 cola
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0565.jpg
Plant 2 cola close up. Trichs don't show as white in the HPS light so you have to imagine how sparkly they are in white light. ;)
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0566.jpg
Puffzter
That sounds like a done deal, i believe i can master 2frames of Red Bull and then i will bring a shitload of coffee and some beer.
About the box it will not take that long to tear apart, ill see if can sketch it up for you cause its only gonna be about 10 screws till you can flatpack it the way im going to build it.
Those plants is starting to look dank as something out of a dream, keep that stuff going that way cause you definately got talent.
Well I can construct a box no problems but to actually put it up and tear it down from a wheelchair would be a bit of a bitch that's why. ;)
I can stand up short periods and but that would still be much tougher than with a grow tent so I went with a tent.
Also the Secret Jardin has mylar coating inside and is plug and play so put it up, hang lights and ventillation and grow plants. Tear it down, pack it in a small box and put it away when you want.
And welcome man. Would b a blast for sure. :D
Puffzter
hey puff, definitely enjoying the show, WW is the shit...
but it seems as if I see nute burn? not positive but just lookin out, one 12 hr dark period and my plant was fried although it looked extremely healthy before hand.
cant wait to see it all finish up and get smoked :D
Not nuteburns but some yellowing of some leaftips on a few fan leaves.
The burns I have seen before has always been brown as burned but this is not like that.
It is only on the highest fanleaves and I think it rather is from so much nutricion is used up by putting weight into the buds than anything else.
Colors are a bit screwed up when I photo in HPS light. In reality it looks like the green is coming out of those high fanleaves slightly.
Wont that normally happen as the plants grow closer to completion?
Puffzter
Updated detailed grow op info.
General grow op info
WW grow info day by day in detail.
Hindu Kush mother plant info day by day
WW clones in training to be mother plants info day by day.
It's an excel sheet.
Enjoy and give feedback please.
Link:
Free file hosting by Savefile.com
Puffzter
hi Puff:
Pictures look pretty good to me. I didn't mean, that because my neighbor used beer for his race driver pain, you had too!! lol--bet that was the best sleep you've had in awhile!! Good for you!
Hope you are not expected to be in that wheel chair a lot longer? Please tell me-you will heal well!! Use your cannibis to make sure!
I had some sort of cupcake mmj yesterday late morning. A co-op gives samples to new people in the Education Group. It was really nice for back pain. My head was straight and my back--nice! Too bad it wore off! I doubt the cupcake was calorie free either!
We'll c about a high time for you!
How long do you think you'll be laid up! What did the other person look like, just joken!
Its' your thread, any pix of it? Without you in them, of course!
Will look in later! I just love this grow! And the farmer! You are a kind person! pr :thumbsup:
yo puff... well IME natural yellowing starts to occur first on the lower leaves. but if your pumping them that much nutrition no yellowing should take place until flush. except lower leaves receiving less light
but like you said the hps throws the color off a lot, so I could be completely wrong, but i'd be concerned about yellowing tips..
the best bet would be to browse some nute burn pics and find out :D
i'll be here for the rest of the grow though :jointsmile:
Well broken backs with following nerve damage is for life so my chair and me is a team from now on in.Quote:
Originally Posted by painretreat
There are a few things I didn't understand Pain. What do you want pics of? What other person do you mean?
Probably just me that is misreading in some way but I don't get it even when I read back. :(
Puffzter
Ye might just do that m8. I've seen nuteburns before I mean and this looks nothing like it. The yellowing is not even always on the tips of the leaves some spots starts far out on the leaves close to the tips but nothing like any nuteburn I ever saw.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenatik
Salt Build up maybe. Or light burns even. I did have some leaves showing similar signs after they grew into the HPS earlier in the grow.
Anyway I am keeping a very close eye on it and will natrually check for info on what it can be. For now though (it has been like that since before I started the hard nute period) I am quite certain it is nothing too bad since the plants grow very very well indeed but it still would be very interesting to find out just what it is.
Stinky? :D
Puffzter
Damn!
These plants are gonna tip over before this is done.
Weight of the colas are just about to do it already.
Day 41 12/12 atm so still far to go. It's impossible to not start to think about yeild now. I would not be surprised if plant 5 alone will give me over 100grams (close to 4 ounces). The weight of those colas are really big you can feel it when you wiggle the stems :D
The other plants have also added a lot of weight and are struggling to stand up.
Nice problem he?
Hi hi.
Puffzter
From what I am seeing you will get 4 ounces plus per plant:thumbsup:
Unfortunatly I am not a hydro grower so I don't want to guess what happened with those leaves but if it stopped dont worry then.
JG
Well I wont get that much I think but I am hoping for close to 12-14 total. It would still be insanelly good and keep me with weed for over a year which is kinda cool when you think about it having only used a single square metre.
Anyway I don't care so much about the actual amount of weed I get but it adds to the excitement for sure and to see these heavy leaning plants that have developed in my walk in closet from 5 tiny seeds is such a joy in itself.
My project, my secret. Now that's the cool thing with this. :D
And ofc that I will get some dope from it is another positive in the end hehe.
Puffzter
Hi Puff: Here in the states, we have a thing: When we see someone that looks like hell, beaten up-black eye or something--we ask jokingly about the 'other person' and how they look! In your case, it is the car, I'd say! I was curious of the pictures of the car!
Sorry to hear it is permanent and glad you have such a rewarding hobby you love. I think, in your case, you will not be able to hold yourself back from starting another grow soon. It is addictive, isn't it!
You have such a good attitude for your condition, I commend you!! You seem like a very nice person, whether you have a w/c or not! So many are bitter! It is a pleasure to know you!
Cindy :thumbsup:
PainR
Motorcycle actually. I was a bike racer.
And it, almost, did'nt take any damage at all in the crash.
I have totalled so many bikes in my life and stood up without a scratch on me so obviously when I finally do get it hard the bike walks away with just a blemish :P
Oh and ofc I will start another grow. It is due to start as soon as the current ones are cut down and tent is cleaned spotless again. I'd be surprised if the growtent will be empty for more than 12 hours to be honest.
Next grow will be a clone SoG. Probably toped plants not FIMd. 2 colas per plant and 16 plants. That's the plan anyway.
I will be using European growers toy number one at the moment the Nutriculture Amazon for that as it seems. I get a unit in a couple of weeks.
Nutriculture Amazon Aeroponic System: Basement Lighting Hydroponics and Plant Grow Lights
It's really sweet and the measurement is perfect for a growtent. I have seen some pretty sick grows come out of these units in growlogs on European forums.
Puffzter
ps I'll try to get a few acceptable pics of the plants at lights on today
Some pictures to ease up on all text.
This is day 41 of 12/12 and as usual it's from crap cam. I am really sad I can't capture the sparkling nature of my plants with my camera. Its either a yellowy green or a white mess but anyway here we go.
Bottle on 2 of the pics is a 1.5 litre (50 Oz).
Plant 5 and one of its 6 colas:
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0576.jpg
Plant 1 cola this one as well as plant 2 and 4 is just sparkling all over but ye don't show :( :
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0577.jpg
Plant 2 cola:
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/74c1900c.jpg
My Hindu Kush Bonzai mother plant project:
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0589.jpg
And last one of my 2 WW Bonzai motherplants in the making:
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0590.jpg
Puffzter
Looking Good Bro!!! They Are Starting To Swell Up!!! Going To Be Some Nice-Ass Cola's!!!!!! Best Of Luck!!!:rastasmoke::rastasmoke::rastasmoke::rastas moke: