Jerry Garcia's Blue Widow, Blue Apollo, and Mystery Seed From Start to Finish

damn jerry, you got it going on in the grow room :D

some seriously outstanding work bro :jointsmile:

Excellent looking herb! Im sure that light will have you yielding nice heavy buds, very excited to see your harvest keep up the good work.

Also, how long is your flushing schedule?

thanks, MEDI

WOW!!! I was following this grow at the very beginning and then haven't had my internet hooked up for a couple months. When I looked in here I was like... :eek: Fuckin' nice job JG, your plants look amazing...Confirms my plan to use FoxFarm nutes next time.

Peace...
Tim :S5:

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Thanks everyone:thumbsup:

Well the 1000 watt is working out just fine. I was really worried about heat and frying the tops of the tall plants. The hood is doing an excellent job keeping it cool in there.

It is unbelievably brite in there now and light is penetrating the canopy much better, this bulb has a more blue tint so I think it will help them grow even better. The only problem is it makes it more difficult to see the tops of the plants because it is like looking at the sun. I need to were sun glasses when looking in the box now:cool:

Medjuana,

To answer your question I really don't do a flush in the common way. How I water is to alternate between plain water and nuted water therefore giving the plant time to absorb all the nutrients, therefore preventing nute and salts buildup. I also let the pot almost dry up before watering, and water until excess comes out the bottom.

JG

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stoned? lol. did you mean anything by that post? :jointsmile:

Here I am at what I will call the halfway point of the flower cycle. Things are looking good :stoned: They are starting to get the powder sugar look and when you brush up against one it feels like flypaper already:thumbsup:

Also it proved very difficult to take these pictures because the ballast is standard electromagnetic and it causes lines so I had to come up with an alternative with a CFL but was very risky and was lucky not to break something. So this is it until I come up with a better way to take pictures.

Last night I started my finishing feedings that consisted of 1 Tbls. of Grow Big, 2 tsp. of Tiger Bloom and 1/4 tsp. of Cha Ching per gallon of water. I did not feed all the plants last night only the tall ones they are starting to use water faster than the rest and needed a drink, I will do the rest tomarrow.

JG

Last night I watered the other 9 plants with the same nute formula as above.

Man they are realy starting to swell up. So far no danger signs of falling over but there is no way to move them now and the nice thing is they seem to be supporting each other. I can see most of the upper colas from the box door by gently sticking my arm in there and opening a clear view of the tops.

BW 4 looks like Jack Frost came by with her trich production and is producing some realy big buds. Mystery plants 1 & 2 look be be something really nice. Mystery 1 is actually producing pistols with a slight orange tint to them then the buds are turning a purple to a brownish color inside ( I'll say prownish:D) with some incredible trich production.

Another thing I find weird is I thought I would be able to smell some Blueberry by now. To tell you the truth at this point they look and smell more like pure White Widow and Apollo 11 :wtf: But definitely look better than the WW that I got from Amsterdamnmarajuanaseeds.com to be truthful I feel the Free Mystery seeds I got from them are far better than most of the WW I got from them. Don't get me wrong WW #4 and #9 were fine specimens:thumbsup: But I like the looks of the current more.

Wells that todays update its time to enjoy WW #4:rastasmoke: and some Greatfuldead:hippy:

JG

Damn those are some healthy looking plants man.
Almost look like they're made of plastic to keep for show in a lobby or something.
Sweet.

Puffzter

Pufftzer,

Thanks for stopping by
You know what your right:thumbsup: Now that I looked back at the pics again they do look like something you would find at the Cannabis Cup used as props.:D

JG

Thanks for the info, i was only wondering because of the article i read in high times a few weeks ago about flushing and carbing up the plants.

Good way to avoid the toxic build up!

Medijuana,

Your welcome.

Another thing I just noticed was I put Day 35 on the last set of pics. It should be day 42. I must have been stoned.:rastasmoke:

JG

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Last night I started my finishing feedings that consisted of 1 Tbls. of Grow Big, 2 tsp. of Tiger Bloom and 1/4 tsp. of Cha Ching per gallon of water. I did not feed all the plants last night only the tall ones they are starting to use water faster than the rest and needed a drink, I will do the rest tomarrow.

JG

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Hey Jerry....the grow is going great.....one thing thou.....do you add the big bloom to your final feedings......i run FF nutes and i was just wondering.......1 tbls of Grow Big you say......wow i thought that would be too much N during flowering....boy i was wrong......i run the FF nutes according to the website....i think my final feedings are 2 tsp. of grow big hydro, 1 tsp of Tiger bloom, 1 tbsn of big Bloom, and 1/4 tsp of cha ching...

It seems like you double everything except the cha ching and eliminate the big bloom....wow that would be helpful because im eating threw big bloom like crazy!

Killa,

Oops, your right I did use Big Bloom. Man I need to stop smoking before writing these posts. I get those 2 confused when writing but not in use.

Yeh I also go thru big bloom like crazy to. I have to buy it gallon form. Really the only nute that I do not use much of is Beastie Blooms.

JG

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Killa,

Oops, your right I did use Big Bloom. Man I need to stop smoking before writing these posts. I get those 2 confused when writing but not in use.

Yeh I also go thru big bloom like crazy to. I have to buy it gallon form. Really the only nute that I do not use much of is Beastie Blooms.

JG

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Diddo.....i started this round to buy a gallon of big bloom....and i only use the bestie bloomz for 1 wk also.....thanks once again for the quick reply!

LOL...hells yeah, I may get big bloom in gal too..Go through that shit like crazy...
whiskeytango

Yeah the biggest things I notice about FF nutes is. First is Big Bloom is the cheapest of the liquids but you use 3 times as much of it than the rest. Second when you buy the 3 pack of the granular forms it is the same price as 2 and you get enough for 20 or more grows. So it is a one time investment.

So for those of you watching this log! Here is what you need to get for your grow. This is for around 9 to 12 plants.

1 Gallon of Big Bloom, 1 per grow. $35.00
1 Quart Grow Big, 1 per grow. $14.00
1 Quart Tiger Bloom, 1 per grow $14.00
1 FF 3 pac granular forms, Lasts forever $60.00

JG

I gave the smaller 8 plants a 1/2 gallon of plain water tonight and all is looking well. I did give the taller plants a drink on Sunday.

So far this grow is going better than expected meaning the number of plants vs. space. I am happy with the progress and they are starting to put on weight. Also they are still in full bloom no red pistols yet so this may be a long grow my guess 3 or more weeks still.
Now the pics are not the best by far due to the conditions of blind pics and just sticking my arm in there I can't move a damn thing now. the good thing is you can get a good idea of why it is a jungle in there:D

That's a damn pretty jungle you have there!

Do you use the whole gallon on one grow period?

Nice plants, btw!

It is close enough, Big bloom is used thru most of the grow and use 1 or 2 Tablspoons per gallon of water every time.

3 more weeks huh? and your on flush? JG this grow is looking nice. I wish i had space to flower more then 5 plants at a time

Anbesol,

I think your a little confused. I have not started flushing yet, I alternate between waterings. They now get close to 2 waterings a week now, 1 is with nutes the other is plain water. I do this to prevent nute build up and give the plants time to absorb all the nutriants before adding more. Thats how I don't get salt build up and other bad things happening.

Also Thanks for stopping by and letting me know your watching Doobster, and Shov.

JG

Today I gave my 8 smaller babies a feeding of full strength nute mix that is recommended on the chart. I decided to go for the full recommended amount because they are just coming out of full bloom and going into the ripening stage. I am starting to see pistols turning and they are beginning to put on weight fast. I know this because the colas are beginning to lean ( not to the point of snapping ). This feeding consisted of.

1 Tbs. Big Bloom
2 tsp. Tiger Bloom
1/2 tsp. Cha Ching
1 tsp. pH Down for tap water correction.

This is for 1 gallon water and gave each plant 1/2 gallon of the mix. This is different than my usual technique. in my past grows I would have used a full gallon per plant and let the excess drain out. Now I can't do that this grow due to I cannot move the plants to out of the box, if I used a gallon it would over flow the catch saucers I have and that's not good.

It is going to be interesting on how I determine time to harvest because I cannot get in there to see the trichs. The recommended flowering time for them is 70 days so I may just let them go until day 77 and pull a couple out and harvest. Then look and make a determination at that point. Moving them this close to finishing would be a bad idea.

JG

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Originally Posted by Jerry Garcia 2007

Today I gave my 8 smaller babies a feeding of full strength nute mix that is recommended on the chart. I decided to go for the full recommended amount because they are just coming out of full bloom and going into the ripening stage. I am starting to see pistols turning and they are beginning to put on weight fast. I know this because the colas are beginning to lean ( not to the point of snapping ). This feeding consisted of.

1 Tbs. Big Bloom
2 tsp. Tiger Bloom
1/2 tsp. Cha Ching
1 tsp. pH Down for tap water correction.

This is for 1 gallon water and gave each plant 1/2 gallon of the mix. This is different than my usual technique. in my past grows I would have used a full gallon per plant and let the excess drain out. Now I can't do that this grow due to I cannot move the plants to out of the box, if I used a gallon it would over flow the catch saucers I have and that's not good.

It is going to be interesting on how I determine time to harvest because I cannot get in there to see the trichs. The recommended flowering time for them is 70 days so I may just let them go until day 77 and pull a couple out and harvest. Then look and make a determination at that point. Moving them this close to finishing would be a bad idea.

JG

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Great Show JG.....man they look awesome.....I guess our nutes are similar...i use less Tiger bloom and cha ching....but my babies get nutes every feeding.....but its real nice of you to show the views you nute schedule....might have to try bumping up the ppm like you on the next grow! Good luck bro.....you grows are always top notch!

Yours are lookin quite nice too JG:greenthumb:
whiskeytango

wow JG that is really an awsome grow...maybe i should say jungle very impressive. I just bought the full line of FF products and im excited to use em. what kind of soil did you start off with during your seedling phase? and up to now your using moisture control and perlite?

Purpwidow,

I have use the same soil thru this entire grow. And your correct it is a mixture of 16 quarts of MG Moisture Control and 4 Quarts perlite.

Also for you all I tried to take pics for day 57 of the flower cycle but was unable to get any good pics that were worth posting. Everything is going as well as expected. The colas are getting huge now and the smell of blueberry is now present. Also I wish I could get a picture of BW8, this has some of the most beautiful colas. They are around 4 fingers wide and are almost completely white from the trichs.

JG

Well I thought that I would give better update on the situation after looking at the plants tonight.

Well problems are begining to arise:(

Plant BA4 is showing big-time signs of nute lock or high pH. At almost over 24 hours after watering with plain water the fan leaves turned a bright yellow and is need of a flush.

My dilemma is:wtf: it is the tallest plant of them all! and the smallest producer of them all! Next she is all the way in the back and I would have to remove 4 plants out of the box. Just to get her out flush her then put her back.

So the decision is to let her stay for now and be somewhat sacrificed for the good of the rest.

I did as good of an inspection as I could of the rest and OMG it is like every branch you move their is a Giant Cola just dripping of trichs. I just sat down there for an hour smoken a "J" in compleat disbelief and the biggest:D on my face. This is when I determined:) I would have to be insane to move those plants right now for that one bad performer. If anything her buds will taste better from less chlorophyil, Right?

I wish I could get pictures of this but like I said, they look just like the last pictures pretty much. Believe me I want to see them up close just like you do but I have to take this hands off approach right now or risk breaking something or even causing a domino effect and taking them all down.

My plan is to take a whole bunch of pictures of each plant at harvest. Just to give you an idea of what they look like:) look at my avatar and imagine that after some one covered it with powder sugar. These colas are that big, and there are alot of them;)

JG

Sweet man, those are some nice plants and strains. Im really looking forward to post harvest/cured pics and smoke reports as well.

Well I broke-down today and took one plant out just so I can see what is going on and check to see where I am at with the trich's. Well look what I saw :madnoel: I think I am going to have Christmas in August.

More to come:thumbsup:

Damn buds in that 1st pic look sick, nice grows, what strains? where u get your seeds? Check my thread out, I'm gonna need some feedback once i start flowering my babies:jointsmile:

some more pics

what strain is this one

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where u get your seeds?

One more pic for you,

Inspecta EX, that particular pic is of Blue Apollo #4 I got these seeds from Hemp depot Joey Weed Blue Apollo Joey Weed Seeds

Now for the update of what I saw :thumbsup:

I did get a good look at some of the trich's and to my amazement they are all mostly clear on all the plants. This is wonderful :D Reason being, I like the energetic trippy high and looks like I can harvest during this phase this time :thumbsup: My last grows my buds were not this big until the trichs were all cloudy.
Just to give you an example that cola in {picture 5 post 154} is huge, that baby is 5 to 6 inches wide. I don't know how I am going to get it in a mason jar for curing.

I was right about all the plants supporting themselves when I took out BA4 she just wanted to fall over so I had to lean her up against the washer while I took the pics.

Also it looks like a couple of plants did not like the last feeding and show signs of nute burn. Both are BA's and after reading the site page again it recommended mild nutes. OOPPPS Learned to read before just assuming. good thing is it is not bad and are still growing very nice.

Well the final determination is I will go for one more week or so just to let them fatten up a little more, Then just unplug the light for 3 days for finishing, then harvest the whole crop at once.

Another thing is I think I am going to probably use the box for drying! Reason for this is these plants are so big they all will not fit in my closet, plus these plants realy stink and my house will smell like a skunk. So I am going to take advantage of the scrubbers for safety reasons.

JG

Hey Jerry you seem to know strains? I'm planning on getting some seeds and I want to know what are some of the better haze strains? I'm looking for really chunky buds powerful haze strains, I'm also looking at purple and white strains, what do you suggest?

beautiful plants jerry. looking great. i know you like the trichs clear but i have a feeling with that strain you may want to let one go for a few weeks longer. the high may surprise you. but if that's i think you'd have a very happy harvest anytime from here on out. nice work


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I'm quite sure she have a tutor to support her own weight. Really nice plant, 5-6 inch wide, WOW !