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dosed em with an organic insecticide/fungicide...mostly fish oil...room smells like blue crab now....lol Mixed it in with the watering, and gave a light foliar with it just in case....
whiskeytango
No forget to do it again, later!
Dese buggahs are like Uke, (Fleas), dey got a life cycle.
Gotta keep hittin' 'em or dey come back.
You now got thousands of pupae inna dirt.
Dey hatch, hump, n lay eggs firs' t'ing.:mad:
Bug-o-cide dem buggahs.
Den cover da dirt an' kill da growed-up flies,
Den killum again!
Den gettum some "snot onna sponge "to keepum dead!
Can ya tell I no like fungus gnats?:D
Long story.
l8tr
Weez
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WT, your grow seems to be going well, despite some possible nute and bug issues. That 1 HKxBI is insane! Any thoughts to keeping it as a mom since it's such a flippin' monster? I'm glad to see your plants have made an excellent recovery from their early issues, and I hope you are able to address the nute and bug issues quickly. I am glad to see you have some insightful members with much experience in here to lend you good advice.
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thanks jake!!! that monster may be used for breeding...think it may be a male though.....
whiskeytango
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Stealth I've been having bug issues too....not gnats but white flys and they have done some damage. I made it worse by not realizing it was bug damage and tried some other treatments before I ended up blasting the bugs and solving the problem. Hope it works for you too.
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Gnats are particularly frustrating. They dig down into the dirt and hide there, laying eggs that larvae attach to the roots and cause their health to deteriorate. I ignored them as an inconvenience until funky things started happening with root rot, etc. and by then it was a MUCH bigger problem... and harder to solve. It sucked bad. Kill those little fuckers and their eggs ASAP. :twocents:
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Is there something you can put in the soil to kill them?
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i watered the soil with that organic insecticide/funguside.....havent seen ANY....but will add some to the next watering along with nutes and cal-mag....dont worry WH, I promise to check Ph of this mix before add ing:thumbsup:.....lol
whiskeytango
guess I was thrown off cause there were no signs o bugs on the plant itself...could these gnats/whiteflies be whats causing the yellowing on some of these still? and the veg growth has definitely slowed down it seems.....one of the SNLxNH didnt make it outta the funk:(:wtf: WH, crispi...you guys ever have any issues with the SNLxNH? knurled leaves or anything? seems those and the church cant shake this yellowing....all the others have come out of it...
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Hi,
Have you tried Gnatrol? Its made from bacillus thuringiensis bacteria which is suppose to be safe and non toxic I have used it in the past and it worked for me.
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Originally Posted by SnSstealth
i watered the soil with that organic insecticide/funguside.....havent seen ANY....but will add some to the next watering along with nutes and cal-mag....dont worry WH, I promise to check Ph of this mix before add ing:thumbsup:.....lol
whiskeytango
guess I was thrown off cause there were no signs o bugs on the plant itself...could these gnats/whiteflies be whats causing the yellowing on some of these still? and the veg growth has definitely slowed down it seems.....one of the SNLxNH didnt make it outta the funk:(:wtf: WH, crispi...you guys ever have any issues with the SNLxNH? knurled leaves or anything? seems those and the church cant shake this yellowing....all the others have come out of it...
Aloha WT et al
If you had whitefly, it would be readily appearant.
Shake the plant and stand back. They are much bigger dan gnats and they fly erratically, like moths
I'd be willing to bet that the church is in this brand of trouble.
FUNGUS GNAT chirruns!
A single dose of insecticide will not work!
Here is what you are up against;
Life Cycle
Females live about a week and lay 30 to 120 eggs singly or in batches of up to 30 on the soil. Eggs hatch in 4 to 7 days (Steffan 1966). Larval development requires about 8 to 20 days, depending upon temperatures. The resting pupal stage lasts about 3 to 5 days and is located near the soil surface.
Adult flies do not damage plants directly, but are objectionable to consumers and cannot be tolerated on potted plants in hospitals, grocery stores, or florist shops. Adults can emerge from immature forms after sale even when none were evident earlier. Larvae feed on decaying matter and on healthy and diseased roots in the soil medium. They can be particularly damaging to seedlings and other small plants. Damaged roots provide conditions for root diseases, further complicating fungus gnat management and crop health.
for the whole skinny;
Management of Fungus Gnats in Ornamentals
When the foundation is gone, the church will crumble.
No want dat!
Or, in plain english,
Bad things are happening underground.
Do not delay!
Good luck brah.
Wee (hate dem buggah) Zard
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Found this to be interesting.
Many indoor gardeners can live with even this relatively minor threat to the health of their plants. But now, after reassuring growers for years that the gnats were largely a cosmetic problem, researchers have found the threat doesn't end there. In a recent breakthrough, Harris has shown that both fungus gnat larvae and adults occasionally transmit a variety of diseases. She's proved they spread black root rot and Pythium wilt and suspects they transmit many other fungal pathogens as well. It's akin to discovering dust miites carry the common cold.
and
Simply take advantage of the fungus gnat larvae's preference for the upper soil layers and add a half-inch layer of sand to the tops of their bulb pots. "It really works," says Steward. "The eggs probably dried out, or perhaps the adults couldn't emerge."
Sounds like a good idea, after a larvacide, of course.
Wee,
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so....i cant fucking post pics....and I need some of you to see these plants..Im not even gonna explain, Ill show pics.....eventually...
whiskeytango
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I think the yellowing your getting is from wattering with only watter every other time. IMO you should be useing aroung 1/2 strength of nut every time you watter. Again that's just my 2 cents.
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so....i cant fucking post pics....and I need some of you to see these plants..Im not even gonna explain, Ill show pics.....eventually...
whiskeytango
Whiskeytango, I bought my procyon and recieved it near the begiining of May I began to flower them in June on the sixth while I can feel the resins on the buds they are all fairly small still. If I were to put an HID light in with the procyon would it still work to make the high resins the procyon or would I be better off vegging under the procyon and flowering with the HID? I'm told by the Hydroponic shop I would get a lot better growth with an HID is that true?
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Why can't you post pics? Is it on the server end? Get in touch with one of us or hit 'report' on the post that did not allow a pic upload, explaining what you tried, and that it failed. The server was just epically upgraded, so it's time to work out the kinks!
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Mel...your issues could be strain related...My JHxBB didnt do great with the LEDs, but these Kush strains seem to LOVE them...your not into the heavy production phase of flowering, so the buds may still appears smaller for now...put a link in here to your thread if you have made one, and I'll come check it out for ya...got pics up n stuff?
yeah stinks, its server end...keeps saying server was reset...
whiskeytango
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again...I am REALLY diggin these HKxBIs...great smell, lovely lookin plants, and after 3 fucking days flowering, there are already 3 plants with MULTIPLE sets o pistils...yummy, big n fast male in the bunch...is probably gonna get it on with that dark n fat SB...it turned out a chick too....had only a few males..the BR is iffy, think 3 males and 1 female...eh...tis good...CLONES a comming...pics up tomorrow hopwfully...
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whiskeytango
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hope you get the pics working soon wt... whats the deal with the new avatar, its a bit of a uturn from your usual ones :P
Spiggity
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maybe its my end..still cant post pics....grrrr
WT
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pics up tomorrow...found out what was wrong with my comp...So for sure, ALL 4 of the BR were males...:wtf: but I may use one for breeding...heard these were some fine beans:thumbsup:
5 outta 7 of the HKxBI were ladies!! The super tall branchy male will probably be pollenating the fat n dark SB I got....
4 outta 8 females on the SB... one of these ladies will probably get the BRs pollen
Gonna clone the Church, 3 of the 5 HKxBIs (mother potentials) and 2 of the SBs...
About it for now...couldnt bring the SNLxNH outta the funk:( work her again next go round....
whisekytango
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lalala.....
So, first 3 pics are the SB ladies. Second is the Church (plenty o clones there!) Third is the HKxBI ladies, and the last pic is the BR and HKxBI daddies I picked...Both daddies will hit the SB. The cross with the BR will double up the blue genes, and the cross with the HKxBI will double up the kush factor. SB is a PKxBluB, so PK being HKxPA (purple afghani) and HKxBI (Black Indica). So that cross will push out the blue in there, hopefully making one HELL of a good med for anxiety/bi-polar/insomnia. Hell, or at least knock me the fuck out so Im not being an asshole anymore....lol...IF I chose the right ones to breed:S5:
Sorry if this makes no sense, but Im kinda planning this as I type, so its very ramble-ish....dont like it, dont read it. Im too high to care:jointsmile::thumbsup:
THEEEEN........
The BR and SB is hopefully gonna be a good cross for me to be able to stay medicated and function during the day...
Church is gonna give up 5-6 decent clones, so thats good...Im gonna flower her and all the others, making mums outta the clones
dunno what else there is, hope someone reads this.....lol, if its you Db, yell at me later if I left anything out....
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whiskeytango
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yayy pics! what day are you on wt? all the girls look very healthy and very bushy :thumbsup:
DrSpiggity
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Nice kids, WT!
They look healthy, brah!
Got dem gnat bastids onna run, 'yeah?
When Churchey's toes heal up.
"You'll wonder where da yellow went"
When ya wets dey feet wit' Gnats-get-bent.
Sorry, brah, too many tomatoes fo' brefus.:stoned:
I wunner.
What's dat "bump?" tingy?
Hope you no texting when driving.:D
'specially wit yo' driving fingers all occupied.
Jus' finished my Bubba Beamer-PFD.
(Photosynthesis Facilitation Device)
Dat t'ing brighter dan I evah hope to be!
Woof!, gettin a little wobbely.
Betta go tend to da tomatoes, while I still can.
Aloha
Da Weeble dat will :D
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thanks weez!
day 6 flower spoof...and got PLENTY of flowers already!! Hairs abound on that HK...fast fuckers...
whiskeytango
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They do look happy and healthy. Shame all your BRs turned out to be male, but yes, I'd breed them....it's a great strain!!
Glad your church grew out of her problems....she looks really good too. I'm hoping for my SNL x NH to do the same......just eventually grow out of her issues.
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hey WH...is the BR the blue hen russian cross, or blueberry x AK47...I have heard of both blue russians...and sham on those SNLxNHs...grrrr
should I breed the BR into the church? or one of the kushs...how is the high on the BR?
whiskeytango
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Its a russian mix.....
You know Stealth considering genetics.....if the kush you are talking about is Master Kush that the stork sent I'd probably go with the Church.....the MK is second generation seeds and the church isnt.
On the other hand....the church has given you a hard time and the kush has grown well right??
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As far as the high goes.....i think they are both fairly close to each other so either one would do well with a boost of "up" weed.
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oh....and clones will be taken tues ish....
may cross the BR into the church and the SB F2...one of the three super dark fat pheno moms Im keepin...culled the runts and lighter thinner phenos from the SB...:thumbsup: breeding for my med purposes. so I may cross em both, and once flowered, if i didnt dig one of the crosses too much, the seeds will be stork bound:thumbsup:
Im sure either way, the crosses will all be super good..Im just tryin to make something to suit my needs.....but aren't we all?:greenthumb:
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whiskeytango
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Stealth I'm trying to keep up w/ your Logs they are all SPREAD out!!!
Hope all is going well I seen the post up on Redwood Tree and I can not find the Questions or issues you are having. Hope all is well I'm subscribing to this thread.. This is the current one to Stick With? LOL
GL!
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yeah..this is the only current thread now....lol
whiskeytango
at least as far as the plants growing....
may start a thread for the breeding...
whiskeytango
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Were are the issues??? You seem to have narrowed out all possibility's.. Do you think it may be Lock Out? I had the same Issues W/ FF soil in the Early stages but after Ridding it out the soil looses what seems to bother the plants...
Good Luck
GL!
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whole lotta beans coming outta this batch....anyone lookin skyward?(rep me, you know who you are:thumbsup:)...lol
issues seem fixed to me GL...even church is back at it strong...
whiskeytango
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Same Here Thank god We were blessed...
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Issues? I hate to give advice on issues. If I'm wrong I stand a chance of screwing up someones grow. Is that browning on the leaf tips form slightly overfeeding perhaps? Looks like it was worse a couple weeks ago, and with the tiny amount of brown on the newer leafs, maybe she's ok now. Anyway they're looking pretty good now, or is there another issue?
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SnS and GL, I always welcome blessings, from the sky or otherwise. I was blessed a bit back, and wouldn't mind it again. It's kinda nice. Nice is good. I may even be able to do a bit of blessing myself.
A bit back a big boy was blessed beyond belief. Blatant blessings possibly begot big bundles of beans.
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Hey what's Op!!!
He worked out what ever issues that were taken place:D:D. Opie I have a story somewhat like yours. It goes like this a buddy of mine blew out a garden a while back and he left a fool to manage all great strains and did not kill off a male:D... Anyway I have a whole film Container Mixed w/ the best of them:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:...
Stealth IMHO I honestly believe it is the FF soil:(:(... That product has given me nothing but headaches. The first two months always thinking deficiency's checking all variables. Then Bang it is back to business as usual and you say ILL never use that shit again.. Then the second time it happens you stick to your first set of WORDS... LOL
Stealth did you take a look @ the $1700 LED? If so what do you think I did not see it but I heard about it... Did you hear anything about Sq Ft Coverage on that piece. I can not find it online I looked up PROCYON if that can handle a whole VEG room on it's own it is absolutely worth it.
Thanks GL1
I was not the FOOL... LOL:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile: REALLY
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Originally Posted by GreenLeaf420
Hey what's Op!!!
He worked out what ever issues that were taken place:D:D. Opie I have a story somewhat like yours. It goes like this a buddy of mine blew out a garden a while back and he left a fool to manage all great strains and did not kill off a male:D... Anyway I have a whole film Container Mixed w/ the best of them:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:...
Stealth IMHO I honestly believe it is the FF soil:(:(... That product has given me nothing but headaches. The first two months always thinking deficiency's checking all variables. Then Bang it is back to business as usual and you say ILL never use that shit again.. Then the second time it happens you stick to your first set of WORDS... LOL
Stealth did you take a look @ the $1700 LED? If so what do you think I did not see it but I heard about it... Did you hear anything about Sq Ft Coverage on that piece. I can not find it online I looked up PROCYON if that can handle a whole VEG room on it's own it is absolutely worth it.
Thanks GL1
I was not the FOOL... LOL:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile: REALLY
Hi GL
Steve Fortier over at Greenpinelane is testing that pricey buggah now.
Got pictures and urls.
A Hi Ha
Weezard
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A bit back a big boy was blessed beyond belief. Blatant blessings possibly begot big bundles of beans.
fuck yeah!!! thanks for that one opie...laughed my ass off..all issues fixed, and GL, the FFoF is fine, once you realize how hot it is...TRUST me, stinky saved us last time from it..with light nutes, FFoF rocks..IMHO
Opie...I predict an Avian Aerial Assimilation of Acinus Around your Abode:greenthumb:
whisekytango
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males got their cluster on! gonna have ALOT of pollen as opposed to my needs. can pollen fly with the birds as well? Sucks that all 4 BRs were male, but an impressive daddy was retrieved.
whiskeytango