sure hope so.
I'm hopin the new sprouts and Galina II turn into something.
i'll bet ya 1 thing for sure tho,,,,
these frosty lil yummies are gonna be TASTY!!!!:D
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sure hope so.
I'm hopin the new sprouts and Galina II turn into something.
i'll bet ya 1 thing for sure tho,,,,
these frosty lil yummies are gonna be TASTY!!!!:D
I say we get Rock hooked on hydro one step at a time... first the cloner, then a simple DWC, then... he takes over the world with Monster Hydro girls....... :D
Hey Rock ,
Don't know if W/H forwarded any pics to you .
Mine were done to my liking at 11 weeks . Here's a few pics .
Stuff is crazy yummy in my vapo . I'll try'n give you an acurate smoke report once cured all the way .
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:
MVP- thanks for stoppin in man, yeah, i think the process has begun.:wtf: Been readin up on a bunch of hydro threads. I'm thinkin maybe Latewood's nute regimine seems simple enuf to follow. and i found a decent bargain for a starter kit. my local place calls is a "waterfarm" for 50 bucks. its a 4 gal, halo-drip unit, but i like the idea of adding a bubbler to the bottom of it.
now i still need a mother:wtf:
Crispy, dude, is that the beast that ate Chicago???Fuckin A dude!!!:thumbsup:x10!
If i can get one to grow 1/2 as good as that,,,i may give up porn:D
I believe that the WaterFarm is the exact same unit the Hound uses. It is the square model, right? My first couple of hydro grows were with one and they work well. It is basically a hybrid between DWC (deep water culture aka "a bubbler") and a traditional drig irrigation system. It is the perfect way to get your feet wet, so to speak... :pimp:
HA HA HE'S GOING HYDRO!! I think you'll love hydro Rock and you don't have to get every bell and whistle to enjoy the benefits. OOOOO I can't WAIT! :D
Hey Rock ,
You can buy the hardware kit for the waterfarms for $12.00-$15.00 and use a 3 gallon bucket inside a 5 gallon bucket , single outlet aquarium air pumps are cheap too . Bet you can make 1 for 1/2 price or less . My Mrs. made all 6 of ours .
Search on here for "dwc/drip hybrid" . There should still be a pic. or 2 of ours on here .
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:
Exactly, there's no reason not to make these buckets yourself. $5 per bucket, and $5-10 for an air pump, so $15-20 for a full bucket... not bad at all. I use the actual net pots made for the 5gal buckets, and they're still only $5, but as Crispi said, the 3-gal inside of it works well.Quote:
Originally Posted by xcrispi
ok, sooooooo, do i assume i'll drill a zillion 1/2 inch holes in bottom of the 3 gallon bucket?Quote:
Originally Posted by xcrispi
I may have everything I need except the hardware kit, time to run to the attic, back in 15:D
well, i guess all i need is the hardware kit, air pump and some grow media and nutes?
look what i found,,,,just layin around, geez, destiny?
i'll paint the big bucket for light prevention, just happen to have primer and black rattlecans.
Hey Rock, what's wrong with an SNL x NH mommy? That's what i'm aiming for.
WH-
i want 1 of those for sure.
but, as u recall, there's been a weird run on males round these here parts.
i'm not chancing any of those precious lil bundles of joy until i figure out what the issue has been in the veg bunker.
as of now, down there, the 3 blue russian sprouts and the 1 blueberry (or) mango kush sprout are all doing pretty good for just starting 4 weeks. The one BR with the weird pale patches looks to have recovered. I shot them all with some Liquid Light yesterday morning, several hours later gave them the only topping i will do this on these.
This mornin they looked great, reachin to the light, tonight they relaxed a lil and looked really nice.
I am really strating to become convinced I have been underwatering,,,,,maybe for 6 months.
it seems everyone, EVERYONE, has gotten happier since i started getting more liberal with the watering schedule.
im thinkin that moisture meter has lead me wrong,,,,for a while now judging by these new reactions.
so, if i get these straightened out, ill be able to pick a BR mom, maybe get a blueberry or a mango mom, and then sprout a SNLxNH for a mom.
also, i have a clone i cut from Galina 5 days ago, and it still looks good. (see pic) that is Guaranteed a Fem, so, if all else fails, I get at least 1 BR mom in the next month or so.
what i would like to see develop according to current ideas and space is like this.
2 or 3 moms in the veg bunker with enuf extra space to accomidate a smaller cloner-rooter-gizmo like i made for you.
veg 1 or 2 at a time and move them to flwr asap.
hopefully i can get on some kinda rotating schedule.
otherwise, well, let's not even think about otherwise,LOL.
Yeah, wally world has much of what you need: air stones x 2 (6 inch @ $3 each), dual ouput air pump ($10), air tubing (25 ft = $3). I advise buying 2 of the air pumps so you have a backup on hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock.Steady
The GH 3-part + calMag (latewood style) is easy and straight forward. Good beginner formula, it's what I cut my teeth on the first 3-4 grows.
If you need/want any DIY advice get in touch thru WH. I've built several bubbler and drip systems. just let me know...
Thanks MVP!!!:thumbsup:
Rock, I'm pretty sure I mentioned those were feminized seeds right.....the snl x nh? You won't get a male in there I'm pretty sure.
You have soil issues or something going on with those red stems.....nutrient issues or something......
oops sorry Rock...didn't realize that was a clone.
no worries WH, yeah, thats Galina II, five days after the cut.
i took off the lil flower hours prior to taking the cut.
i leave her domed during day, with a couple holes drilled in dome to not cendensate too much.
so far, so good.:D
yeah, you said those SNL's were femd, but then that link you sent me to when i had all those males, says that you can even screw up femd beans.
i figure ill wait til im sure, plus the veg bunker kinda filled up b4 the SNL's got here.
after i get a chance to move some of these sprouts out, ill try the SNL's.:thumbsup:
hey, u get my email, bout ur lil gift?
Yes...thank you very much. We ARE in the boonies so things DO take forever as a rule.
I'm waiting for my present kids in veg to get big enough to take some clones on.
rite on!:thumbsup:
you should have enuf time to get everything all settled in and prepped.
itll b cool to see your results with my lil creation:thumbsup::D
hey, dont forget to hit my email with the lil questions i lined up for ya.
i guess i might as well prepare a shopping list:wtf:
oh, BTW- i sit here building my mini-cloner,,,,right now, LOL
my roommate came walkin in asking about the drill he heard...:wtf:
my reply-
"creative juices are flowin man, this is an official hardhat area, steeltip shoes and goggles or faceshield also recommended, its a dangerous time around here bro."
then i pointed to the hydro bucket setup thats almost ready,,,,already:wtf:
he chuckled and walked outta the room.:D
im too funny...:wtf:
ok, ill admit, i got some inspirational help from Ping n Pong tonite.
remember those girls, the infamous clones,,,,,,
2 words "mmmmmmm tasty" :D:jointsmile:
and here's my mini cloner-rooter
the dome portion is soaking in sink to remove a label :cool:
oh yeah, and theres the new 'wet-rock' bucket, the old flowerpot wedges in for a perfectly snug fit. drillin many holes tomorow
oh yeah, and another job interview tomorow, the one last week didnt work out, this new one is a 'lock':D, known these cats a looong time.
so, yeah, you could say im in a pretty dam kick ass good mood :D
good stuff rock, thank goodness for friends like ping and pong :D you are gonna be off to the races in no time...
You should plant a seed in prep for your hydro.....not in dirt though....got any other medium?
I'd recommend either a perlite/vermiculite mix, or some kind of root cube or rapid rooter
hmmm, well, i could grab a bag of perlite.
but, wouldnt the water just run right outta that?
i dont think there'd be any retention at all.:wtf:
i guess its off to some store somewhere, does wallyworld or the home cheapo have anything id use?
i always did wonder how u used beans with hydro:wtf:
do you guys think i should take the clone outta that dirty cup and put it in the new bubbler?
In the past (long, long time ago) I used a soilless mix of 2/3 perlite and 1/3 vermiculite. Perlite for drainage, vermiculite for water and nute retention. The exact mix is an 'eyeball' estimate but I ran my first drip system using this simple medium. Now it has gotten all fancy and most call it a Hempy bucket....
hmm, well, i know i can get perlite locally, but havent seen vermec.
might be time for a recon mission.
back later:thumbsup:
hey rock, things sure are lookin' quite interesting around these parts. how'd the job interview go? btw, wherever there is perlite, there is usually vermiculite right beside it. Found both at "wally world" in the gardening section.
You can use both of those (perlite and vermeculite) but I'm not familiar with them so perhaps MVP or someone could help you with the medium part. When I was trying to decide what medium to use my hydro guy (who knows me well) suggested I stick with either hydroton or the higromite rocks. One thing he mentioned about perlite and vermeculite was the mess involved. Anyone who uses it think its messy?
STAY AWAY FROM ROCKWOOL......for my sanity if for no other reason. :D
And Rock....I wouldn't take something out of dirt and put it into your system. There's all sorts of germs, bacteria etc in the soil that will really get out of control in your hydro system with its perfect conditions for things like that.
Plant a new seed for your hydro. :thumbsup:
basement, thanks, yup, go the yob:D back to being a fully contributing member of this civilization, yet again, damm lottery ever hits and ill be my own boss dammit
and i did find both together, not at wally's but at the cheapo:thumbsup:
now WH, u say plant a seed, mmmm,okay, but then the fact that i havent made it to the hydro store, so, i did do some shopping and got a lil creative.
trying to figure out which pics and explanation first, and just blazed while i'm experimenting with some things:D
hang in there gang:thumbsup:
ok, this transformation isnt taking long at all.:wtf:
ok. so, i need(ed)
1- some kinda media to sprout in
2- a drip system for the main bucket
3- media for the main bucket
4- air pump for main bucket
5- air pump for my new mini cloner gizmo
6- nutes
7- ph up n down and tester
altho WH has suggested a PPM meter, i cant go for 100 clams rite now.:(i'll have to rely on PH and following nute directions)
and i still need to test my water to see if ill need RO and calmag.
heres what i found, and what im thinkin.
pic 1 is everything i found.
perlite, vermeculite, polished river rocks, pumps(1 n 2 port),
and this "internal filter" caught my eye too.
pic 2 is the 'extended column' spittin out a plop of water
pic 3 is a close up of the internal pump,
i'll come back to this thing:D
So Rock, you are really doing it....doin' a hydro grow?!
Well, i am not a hydro guy(not yet),but i think too, that this will be more suitable for you....checkin' the ph and ppm every hour, adjust the solution, spray some crazy new stuff on the plants, etc....as WH said, you will always have something to do...and hopefully not over love your girls...
I think you will make some really nice buds...:thumbsup:
That cloner you made for WH is one pretty cool piece, it looks well made...
so.
point 1 was sprout media
ok, under a suggestion by MVP, perlite n vermeculite will be used.
i'll do that in lil dixie cups so i can tear it away when its time to go to the bucket. that was about 7 bucks, and something, like rapid rooters($17 at the Hyd shop) was needed anyway.
saved 10 bucks.
point 2 was drip system for main bucket.
ok, 15 at my hyd shop, but i was anxious,
this internal filter, i noticed, uses the same bubble and clumn principle of the kit from the shop and cost only 10 bucks.
i removed that part and tried extending it. it works.
ill fab up a ring-like thing tonite or tomorow.
i have hoses and stuff, so, this is a winner too.
saved 5 bucks.
point 3 was media for main bucket.
was gonna get hydroton at the hyd shop for 22 bucks, but now i have the perl and vermec, plus the river rocks to line the bottom so the small stuff doesnt come thru.
rocks were 7 bucks, already have the perl and verm
saved 15 bucks
point 4 was airpump for main bucket
needed it no matter what, got the 2 port so i can run a bubbler in the bottom of the bucket.
spent 10, needed it anyways
point 5 was air pump for mini cloner gizmo, using one from the internal filter, included, FREEBIE
saved 5 bucks
point 6 was nutes, and i still need them. trip to hyd shop tomorow
point 7 was ph up n down n tester, a kit at the same shop tomorow
it looks like i can start sprouting something tonight:D
i saved a total of 35 bucks which means my spending for the rest is offset by 1/2.
not too bad i guess, aye?
hey Zeb, yeah, im gonna give it a try.
im pretty handy as has been demonstrated, and thanks for the kudos on the cloner. i used the model by MVP to fashion it from and tweaked it here n there as i saw fit. WH wanted a 12 site unit, and what WH wants, WH gets,LOL:D
i tested my mini cloner and it rocks.:thumbsup:
i think ill be able to use a different top and use it as a rapid rooter-bubbler too. the mind is always going, if you listen closely, you can hear the wheels spinning
im tending to agree with WH in a big way, she's gotten to know me pretty well. so, ill try 1, and see how it goes.:cool:
like ive said, if i cant get better yield, this is a waste of time.
its all about return on investment, time and money....
not to mention my sanity, or whats left of it.
so, for less than a 100 buck expense, sure ill try it. i have everything else,,,,or,,,,i think i do.:wtf:
Good stuff bro, glad to see you are taking the Plunge.... pun intended... anyhow, I use hydroton and it works for me but you have to 'season' it, :wtf: kinda like oldtimers seasoned their frying pans. Once broken in you will not get PH fluctuations and all is good. Hound has issues with HT, but they can be conquered without too much stress (on the grower, that is...)
Welcome to the dark side, your yields are about to triple.... :D
MVP :jointsmile:
Except basic rules still apply......you are NOT going to get a good yield messing around with these plants the way you love to do so much. If we are going down the same route here only in water you are on your own if you can't keep your hands off them.....fair warning :wtf:
i been running pretty manic today with all the goings on, but its been a really happy day:D
i will get the hydroton tomorrow with the other things.
and yes, WH said i would need to soak it, and yes, i also have real iron skillets, i get the seasoning analogy:thumbsup:
no matter what, i needed something to germinate in anyways.
this stuff is pretty amazing once it gets wet, it actually stuck together like a sandcastle when i plopped it out into my hand.
i mixed it 50-50 verm-perl
umm, i guess i need to start a new thread:wtf:
and,,,,yes, got it mom;)
:D :thumbsup: It'll be good!!
good stuff man :)
Peace,
Denial
ok, and then this mornin as i'm reachin for the clipboard to make a few notes, what do my bleary eyes see????
if i recall correctly, mom used to say these lil ladies are good luck and actually eat the bad bugs i believe.
well, i carefully put her in the grow room on one of Galina's lower leaves. my only worry is if she winds up stuck to the fly ribbon i have hanging in there, that would suck.:wtf:
it was kinda funny watchin her scurry across the paper when i poked her in the butt with an old shriveld leaf :D