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Definetly keeps you occupied and is very rewarding. The difference between us is nobody in my outside world knows I'm growing. The only place I can talk about it is in here. I do this for everyons safty and especially mine. "Loose lips sink ships":(
So it is very nice to have this outlet to help and talk to fellow growers.:)
my new veg shelf, not real thrilled about it, but it was easy and should be ok for now.
hey anyone care to give a guess at what i may get from my plants, yeild wise? I am hoping if all 4 stay female, then 3 ounces, 3 plants are similar size, 1 is a bit smaller. Am I expecting too much? What is a good goal for yeild? 2 ounces per plant? Should I add the Sweet yet, how bout going full strength on the bloomin nutes?
As for the sweet stuff, go ahead and start using it, go to full strength nutes next watering( Note: as per directions on nutes for every watering.)
Yeild? HMMMM. 1 oz per plant is low for your situation, 2oz. would be about average, 3oz above average, 4oz possiable. It varys greatly, The one plant that I harvested early and dried quick came out to 37g. I thought this would be higher. very light and fluffy. Then for a smaller plant, I did the lengthy 3 day dark period before harvest and hung the entire plant(trunk up) to dry for 7 days came out to 31g. I thought this would be lower. But damn this is he way to dry the buds, they came out super sticky (touch one and it will stick to your fingers like they have glue on them) plus very tasty, with a higher density and weight.
But as I look at the remaining big mamma plants still in the box, I predict between 3 to 4 oz. per plant. :) there is a huge differance in bud size from the previouse 2 plants
Im guessing 2-3 ounces dried, from the looks of your plants they look good and large enough. Ive used 1 tsp of sugar per gallon or mollases for the last 3 weeks of flowering and they put on a crazy amount of weight.
wow, i am stoked! Definately try the sugar or molasses. Full strength nutes today, and the sweet. I saw a little area of one leaf just covered in little crystal dust stuff. Just wanted to lick it! I've been without for like 3-4 days! My favorite plant stilllooks great, all 4 have the hairs coming out of them. Another week or so before I should see any actual budding I guess. I gotta make sure I got alot of smoke on hand when it comes to waiting at the end so I can be patient, 3 days in the dark, a week drying, thats gonna be a long 10 days!
its jan 13th and they keep looking better and better! more hairs, lots more growth, very thick. I lost my camera so I gotta describe. The stuff between the nodes will fill in with the buds right? Thats were alot of the growth is happening, all the leaves I am leaving alone, I was trimming a leaf a day, but read not to cuz you need the leaves for the plant to make buds, anyway, its very dense so thats cool. They are making me proud so far! One of my sprouts fell over, too tall or something, hopefully itll be ok, I dont have as many clones as I thought would make it, but should be plenty.
Can I repot them at this point? they seem a little too big for the pots, but kinda intimidating to try and do since they are so big, but they are in like 2 gallon pots, and 1 is in a smaller, like 1 gallon.
You probably could put them into a bigger pot, just be real careful. There going to need that growing space. 2 gallons is small.
I did not know they were in that small of pots! You definetly want to repot to 5 gallon buckets. I put mine in 5 gallon buckets when they go into the flower box. When I havested two small plants in 5 gallon buckets the root systems used every bit of space available. If you do not repot what will happen is about mid way thru the flower cycle they will stop growing due to root constriction.
I also was intimidated at first transplanting such large plants, What you do is let the plants go without water for 2 days to let the soil dry as much as possiable without herting the plants, this lowers the weight of the rootball. Next fill the new bucket with soil 1/3 full ( you can measure by placing the old bucket into the 5 gallon then add or remove soil from the 5 gallon bucket till you have the top of the soil in the old bucket to the level in the 5 gallon at where you want it to be.
Now take your left hand and place the stalk of the plant inbetween your 2 middle fingers and spred your fingers out as much as possiable, now turn the bucket upside down supporting the rootball with your left hand, now gently shack the bucket up and down with your right arm untill the rootball comes free from the bucket, now slowly remove he bucket from the root ball while still upside down, the root ball will remain intact with the roots holding everything together. Now take your right hand and place it directly in the center of the bottom of the exposed rootball and turn so plant is right side up and gently place in the 5 gallon bucket, you most likely will be able to grab the sides of the root ball at this point the roots are holding everything together. Now add soil around the sides and gently pack down. Water with flower nute formula until water comes out the bottom. and you are done.
I have one this several times now and never have had a problem.
I found camera, but it wont let me upload pics.. I will repot them tommorow, I already watered soon as I got home. Thanks! Now on to browsing other folks grows.
Repotted 3 of them, need another bucket, was very easy but hopefully they are ok tommorow. Crazy repotting a 2 foot plant, but wasn't bad. I made one hell of a mess of my room though.. Now I'm hoping they get huge! Massive buds are what I'm in need of, weed weed weed is all I need. Sucks to be out when you are used to being stoned just about 24/7, ya know? Hopefully at least my tolerance will diminish a bit, I'm pretty resilient, too much other shit in the recent past, but now I'm clean, just need my weed. Keeps me off the hard shit, which I really think should be a good enough reason for a medical prescription, depressed dude with serious drug problem past that can just be happy as a clam smoking the dankness frequently, isn't that a good thing? Fuck the govnt thats too fucking stupid to make laws that actually make sense. Of course I'm a drunk too, but thats ok, perfectly legal to be a goddamn drunk. Not really a drunk, just now, so therefore the rant. And yes, I type and function pretty good fucked up.
Humm...why do they have to be 5 gallons? Ive used 2.5 and 3 gallons for years and they always worked well for my closet space. Well I guess if you have the space, use it. My plants are about 30 inches tall in 2.5 gallons.
Sorry Deaner to go off subject here but I have a coulple of questions for Olliegrow.
Ollie you are using 2.5 gl buckets! How long are you veging, and do you do LST? I am just wondering because when I veg in 2 gallon buckets for 6 weeks, I LST that entire time and let them get to be 16" to 18" tall bushes when I transplant to 5 gallon buckets the root ball is very tight. I just don't see how they would make it all the way to harvest without becoming root bound? Must be something differant in our growing styles.
Yeah, mine were pretty dense (the roots) and bam! today, they already look better, I swear my biggest girl jumped 4 inches, and no, I didn't count the taller bucket. Repotting the last one now. I am glad I did. Not nearly as hard as I thought, and I was drinking last night. Today should be a breeze!
Nice plants bro. What kind of seeds? Bag?
You will be amazed at the growth from here on, Do they have those what I call crowns yet? (top of all branches have white pistols just shooting out to the light that looks like a crown from the side.)
Definate crowns, looks cool. 2 were bagseed, 1 was a friends that was real good smoking, but they didnt do it right during budding, so its a really nice girl after all the love and bondage, had a light fruity taste, should be goood. The last one is a clone thats supposed the be good stuff, but I never heard of the strain, its the smallest and skrawniest. They are growing like crazy! I'd like to do one of those pic a day, stop motion, whatever the shit they do on national geographic, planet earth videos, trippy, I'd love to see a growth cycle, start to finish of a beautiful plant. 4 other clones that were adopted look good, but really skinny and thin on foilage compared to mine, so I'm doin something right I think. I just hope to get some good gifts from those ones..
Just keep watering them and giving them nutes (when they need it). they will come along. Now is pretty much the easy part. Just sit back and watch them grow, water them, watch them grow.:)
Measured them for reference later.
biggest is 20" tall bout 18 wide, the other 3 are 15" tall x 15 wide.
Pretty round measurements, is that normal? I guess now they will only be going up.
Put 8 sprouts under my big flourescent, were they stay in 2 gallon pots til flower time.
Have 2 more I will put under soon, and some clones that may all get scrapped, gotta get more knowledgeble bout clonin gbefore doing that again, I think they were too small, put under too much light, and no nutes next time. Lots yellowing and no roots on any that have been tossed out, other than some spit looking hairs, 1 or 2 on a couple, only have 6or so that may have a chance.
So in veg, 4 speed queen, 2 bubblegum, 2 mystery possible bg, cheese, 1 thats topped itself and lagging, is another bg I think, and there are a few germinated seeds in dirt that havent sprouted. Probably get tossed. 1 clone set aside for a freind looks good too.
need to figure out how many days into flower and total I'm at. I want to figure out how to make pictures not orange.
Cloaning is easy you just have to have everything in place to do it. Read the bubbler sticky at the top of this folder. There are a lot of threads in here on how to build a cloaning box out of rubbermaid toats and many other household things that are close to a garentee to root every time.
This is a skill you are going to have to master to get the most out of growing! :) So I suggest read, read, read on cloaning, figure out the best setup for you, get all the materials to build your cloan box, have all tools and materials needed for cloaning before you attempt cloaning. It is a very exact step by step process, almost like sugery so if anything is not there at the right time or wrong time you are almost bound to fail as you can see.
Just keep trying!!!
Just fyi it takes 2 or more weeks before you see roots and yellowing leaves is normal. All the energy is going to root growth, so it is using the stored nutes in the leaves. Basically the plant is growing backwards until enough roots have grown enough to start taking in nutes. Then new growth will start that will more than likely NOT look like normal mj leaves. This is ok eventually they will come.
So just read as much as you can on it and keep trying you need to learn this.
for green pics i switch my light off 2 minutes early and use the time taking pics using the cameras flash,gets rid of orange hps glow
All my harvests have been in 2 - 2.5 gallons. Here some pics of my stuff right now in 2 gallons. I start them in a 1 gallon for veg and when Im about to induce flowering I then put them into 2 gallons for he last 8 weeks. On average there about 2-3 ft tall and yield about 1.5-2 ounces dried. I have to keep them this size because of my closet setup isnt very tall
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Olliegrow,
Thanks for getting back.
Yes there is a difference, Deaner and I have been blessed with a space that he and I can grow trees, that is why I instructed him to transplant to 5 gallon buckets, in my grow I shoot for a yeild of 2 to 3 or more onces per plant. I haven't harvested my best plants yet but I can tell I will most likely break 3 ounces on 4 plants. This is just not possiable in 2 gallon buckets.
Very nice setup and plants by the way. Have you got a grow log going I look a little didn't see one by you?
Yeah without the space to grow, I'd have a problem fast in the new buckets, but now they can get huge and have more time to mature. I'm goin 2 gallon for veggin, except for the baby stage 0-2 weeks, they start in paper cups and dixie cups for the start. Then 5 gallon for the flower room. Are square buckets ok, seem like you could fit more, but the one I have thats square doesn't seem to drain as well, and it is very well draining soil mix with those volcanic rocks on the very bottom for even better drainage.
Deaner,
You have the potting schedule exactly right, nice pics looking very nice great work.
Now my worry is, will my plants in flower be out of the flower room before the ones in veg get too big? I'm thinking no, that they should be nicely lst'd and thick, ready to go nuts in the flower room. I'm gonna try to get a couple to grow (looking from the top) in a circle, the topmost portion of the plant will slowly go round the outside of the pot, making a circle (again, when viewed from above) that will grow vertically as a cylinder, with a deep hole running top to bottom for air circulation, should be some serious bud loading going on, on those, shit how many colas could you get, like 12? Bang, massive buddage for my long term storage.. Gonna try that radical lst plan on at least a couple plants, 1 each bubblegum and s.queen? If I have only 8 in veg, assuming half are girls, then I'm gonna be real short of my goal, 2nd grow, unless some clones make it. I may plant some more seeds, I really want a stockpile. 4mnbvcx444444444444444444444444444444444444 <-- kid had to type a bit, he likes the number 4. I may start some skunk/haze,big bud,mystery seeds, satori, 6 or so, I gotta have 6 under the lights at a time, 12-15 minimum when I get another 600 wt. Next batch of seeds will be ready to go flower when my vegging plants show sex, so if alot of girls, I'd need another 600 wt, pronto. And if only half girls, then I'm ok too. I can still get 6+ plants budding on my 2nd round. My end goal is 15 plants flowering at a time, always rotating out and in, am I on the right track? sometimes it's easier to feel smart than BE smart, ya know? I'm in that boat frequently. :stoned:
You have got the right idea:) best time to start from seed is right when into flower, becarful with quantity with 8 weeks of growing they will be monsters and are going to need room to breath. try and keep it down to 12 in a 4'x4' box.
how bout 12 or 15 in a 6.0' x 3.5' closet, bout 6' high? so 3 5 gallon pots deep, by 5 wide, definately fit, and add lst, plus the second 600 wt. hps? should be sweet huh?
It will be tight, the rule of thumb is 1 plant for 1.5 sq.ft. you have 21 sq.ft. 15 requires 22.5 sq.ft. this is just for females if you go from seed you may want to do as many as plants as you can fit in 2 gallon buckets into that space, then start flowering in those buckets then in 5 days you should be able to sex. Toss the males, transffer females to 5 gallon buckets this will save the soil and time of transplanting only females. This is the problem when starting from seed there is no control of how many females you have. This is why I am cloning my best females and start 5 more from seed to get another strain going. I have 8 plants from cloans and 5 plants from seed that is 13 plants I figure 2 to 3 will be male that leaves 11 to 10 females for a 16 sq.ft. space.
Yes, cloning will be key eventually. I got lucky of my original 3 all of them are female, and one is from some very good stuff, fruity and strong, smaller leaves, deeper green, shorter, bushier than the rest, wonder what strains have these traits? I got 8 in veg, unknown sex, so they will be a couple weeks ahead of another round thatll be ready to go into flower by the time the others start showing sex. I figure 6 plants per 600 is good, so if I get another I can have 12 total, and 2 months of flower, 12 at a time 2 oz per plant (conservative?). 24oz is a pound and a half every 2 months.. Should keep me out of the ugly real world and deeply entrenched into my own.. Hopefully I can count on a couple of these clones making it, they look like shit, all but one, I really hate myself if I lose my favorite plants genetics because I didnt read more on cloning. Once I figure out my favorites and get good at cloning I will mostly rely on that, plus a couple new strains to try at a time. Eventually maybe hydro. I really want a huge african sativa cross, something like I remember smoking from there in the past, that wont go over 5 feet and still produce big buds.
thru n 4 skunk, 2 satori, 2 big bud seeds into the sproutin chamber, to make sure I have enough later when I find the boys. Rather be too many plants than not enough.
I feel you will have to thin the weak, your starting to worry me getting to many going, makes it easier for mistakes also seeds last awhile, I started with 15 seeds got 9 females got close to 50 cloans out of them started 5 more seeds of a new strain expect 2 to 3 females get cloans from them keep healthiest cloan as mom grow cloans from the best, stock cloans again then many small gorilla grows this summer, use boxes for veg only. BTW I still have 20 seeds I have not used they are back up.
yeah i still have 30+ seeds, 4 more sprouts in the dirt: 2 satori, 2 bigbud), nothing from the skunk, so 4 more maybe. Looks like all of my clones are goin down the shitter, theyre looking real sad, and they already were a couple days ago.. "all of the most important ones have been dead a while anyway so the tears have already been shed. " (could be said about alot of things). Oh well, I'm stoned and happy as a clam. My big girls are looking good!! Seeing budd(ish) looking bud things growing out the tops of some of them. Theres a good religion: buddish. I'm stoned.
are you stoned?
shouldn't you be more stoned?
Yes, I should be stoned! However, I smoked through the 10 grams I got on Monday in four days :(
BUT: I gave my boss 2 very "special" cookies. I'm going to txt her in a couple hours and ask how she's doin.
LOL
BTW: Good luck on those beans you planted :)
tried to post pics a few times, no luck so gonna be quick, my girls look amazing, growing so fast, i watched a seed sprout personally the other day, kinda trippy to see, seed, then bang a minute later a half inch stickin out. gonna try one pic, but i got a bunch.
ive got 2 satori and 2 big bud that are gonna go into the veg, 4 more i am germonating having popped yet, the big bud were fast and quick to getout of the dirt too, 4 skunks waiting to germ, but anytime ive had them not sprout by day 2, they never have. my budding girls look so good, they grow crazy fast, im stoned for the last time for a while now, shit. more pics yay!
here they are 2 girls individually with the top cola of each after the main photo. these are my 2 best I think.
these are j-5? (strain I was toldit is, its a clone of supposedly some amazing shit.. we'll see..) and the other is the fat girl. both with the top cola shots after. and an overall. make sure to look at the previous post, they were all taken this morning.