Jesus is against cannabis.

Jesus smoked weed. That is all.

i hit the bong with some dude named jesus earlier today:thumbsup:

The Bible is ridiculous.. It has justification for anything in there, seriously. You know theres a section in Mark I believe where a non-Jewish woman asks Jesus to heal her daughter and he replies "It is not fair to take the children's food and throw it to the dogs." Only after she constantly barrages him with her pleas does he finally give in..

This is why you can take the Bible to mean anything you like, its text, its in language. The same sentence can have multiple meanings - this is exactly why we have people blowing each other up in the name of religion. Its how you interpret the things you read that matters, not what is actually written.

As someone said earlier in this post:

"That authors book is like dan browns book, twisting history and making up stories to promote thier agena."

Kind of like the Bible then huh?

I think the real Jesus would surprise alot of people. You can give people proof all day long and they'll still never believe you. Even if the Bible says it. I would like to think Jesus probably did partake in Cannabis in one form or another. Simply because of the times. Alot of people would have use it as a medicine, intoxicant, whatever. It's no different than wine. It makes sense that people living in a dry climate without refridgeration would prefer to have alot of wine laying around because it would keep much longer than something without alcohol. Christians still like to fight about whether drinking is right or wrong though. I mean...

I dunno where people get the idea that one of the apostles used the guards sword in the garden of gethsemane during jesus's arrest...it clearly states:
"With that, one of jesus' companions reached for his sword, drew it out and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear. -Matthew 26:27

well duh...

But now, whoever has a purse, let him take it, and likewise a wallet. Whoever has none, let him sell his cloak, and buy a sword. -Luke 22:36

Why does a "peaceful" Jesus want 12 armed men following him around?

I don't think the question should even be asked whether or not Jesus used cannabis until we figure out who exactly Jesus is. He's not quite as most would believe.

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Originally Posted by PureEvil760

I'm sorry to announce but I found out today that Jesus is indeed against the use of cannabis..oh well.. :stoned::rasta::rastasmoke:

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Originally Posted by darth stoner

damn, better roll another one up because of that

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How do you think Aristotle and some of these guys came up with these ideas they had. Marijuana. Who else could of come up with an ingenious idea to create the world in seven days with a complete understanding of spiritual concept that is incorperated into everything. Only a toker.

I think god likes when I smoke. It makes for realy interesting conversation, and I always get some awsome ideas about the meaning of life and stuff. Besides, if he doesn't like it, I could always do the 11th hour confession and all will be forgiven.

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Originally Posted by darth stoner

damn, better roll another one up because of that

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Indeed:thumbsup:

:stoned:

Psalms 104:14 "He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth" (posted this on another thread also). Timothy 4:1-4 (warns of false teachers) Timothy 4:3 "They will say it is wrong to be married and wrong to eat certain foods." Cannabis is actually mentioned in the bible but was translated as calamus by the king james translators, it is used as an ingredient for a healing anointment. I can keep going but I will only quote the bible once more, Isaiah 18:4-5 "The Lord said â?¦Afore harvest, when the bud is perfect and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks and take away and cut down the branches." :jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by psteve

First, you need a shitload of Jell-o...

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BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that shit is TOO RICH! A MARVELOUS ANSWER!

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Originally Posted by Anubis10012007

The best way I can explain this is trying to fully understand the concept of duality and understanding early Christianity.

Lets start from the beginning. The Bible has both an Old and a New Testament. The Old is the old law..and the New is the new law. We'll consider the OT "Dark" because of its draconian laws....and the NT "Light" for its love and acceptance of sinners.

Then this man Y'shua of Nazareth comes along in the mid 20s-30s AD preaching love and acceptance. He went AGAINST the established religious order.

My research and beliefs have led me to believe that Jesus came to fully explain the purpose of religion...that it is basically a test and it is not really needed...as love is the way to God...not rules and regulations as the OT concerned itself with. He displayed the balance of "rules and love". Yes rules are put in place...put you learn why they are broken.

Jesus was than crucified as a criminal. In the Synoptic Gospels (Matt-Mark-Luke), Jesus is crucified because he cleanses the Temple. In John..which is really a Gnostic influenced Gospel which was almost ousted from the Bible, Jesus is crucified for raising Lazarus. Understand the differences too between the Gospels as there are contradictions to them.

Jesus was a rebel, plain and simple. He forgave others, where the law said to condemn. HE SHOWED COMPASSION!!!! That is integration of both light/dark. Jesus' god was not the God of destruction or the dead...but of life.

No pain...no gain. We need evil and bad stuff in this world so we can realize that it is the struggle which makes us grow spiritually. Jesus discovered this and taught it. As much as I don't like it in my current mindset here on Earth..I accept it.

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You still didn't answer how it was justifiable that Jesus wanted gays and rape victims stoned to death...
How the fuck is that 'showing compassion' ?

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Originally Posted by darth stoner

damn, better roll another one up because of that

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now THATS taking a page from the bible :jointsmile::thumbsup:

If Jesus is against cannabis, then who cares? Are you really going to let an imaginary being run your life? Come on now...

hahahaha...man...that made more sense than you probably intended it too mfgr

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Originally Posted by psteve

It's pure blasphemy. The bible clearly says that every green herb was given to us by god, and that god wants us to use them.
Jesus loves the herb.

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damn right, like even if the religions tell us not to use it because it will harm us, back in the prophets and messiahs and all those peoples time, no one know that it could harm you in that kinda way, im muslim and it states that we cant drink but it doesnt say anything about tobacco let alone marijuana which some people think is safer than tobacco

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Originally Posted by TryptamineScape

hahahaha...man...that made more sense than you probably intended it too mfgr

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LOL. Thanks for the rep. Rep you as well. By the way, I love your name.

Just as a side note, it's mfqr with a Q, not a G :).

To all who are debating in this thread:

You're all here on a website dedicated to the insemination of information about cannabis. Unless you want to quit the consumption of cannabis based on something imaginary, then this debate is pointless. You also might want to realize that if Jesus is against cannabis, and thinks it's bad, then he's obviously wrong.

JESUS ISNT AGAINST CANNABIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

in no form or fashion. i know from firsthand expierences biyatches!!!!! i know jesus firsthand, and he be smokin that bud all day long.

im joking, but at the same time im being serious. jesus smoked bud.

In my humble opinion, live your life the way you think you should. God, if he exists, wouldnt have given you free will if he didnt want you to seek things out and draw your own conclusions.

Its rather presumptious of anyone, regaurdless of religion, to try and speculate what someone from over 2000 years ago (be he the son of god, or not) would say about a present day situation.

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Originally Posted by Oneironaut

No, it's not that obvious. Not if you actually study the context the story was written in and the history of the book. The ancient Jews most likely did not know of the intoxicating properties of the cannabis plant. After all, they lived in the frickin desert, where there aren't that many weed plants.

Next you're going to try to tell me that the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was weed too, and the fruit that Adam and Eve ate was really just a fruity nug that they smoked.

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I doubt Ancient Judaea did not know of the intoxicating effects of Cannabis. And Israel is not complete desert, I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not :thumbsup:

For some reason I read the thread title as "Jesus is against cannibals."

I think I need to go to bed.

weed was the forbidden tree in the garden of eden, which is in iraq.

im confirmed dna type to be of middle eastern origin, so this is just my cup of tea. its my book, and my tradition.

im telling you. jesus was into pot. there is no way he couldnt be!

Did Jesus use cannabis? Sex, drugs, violence, and the Bible

Jump 4 Jesus!

..like a dog

genesis 1:12
And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

there it is, not to mention god speaking through the burning bush
and personally i dont think jesus really gave a crap about weed seeing as how hes turning water to wine running with hookers and all.performing miracles remember when the bible was writen by a man it was for the purpose to control a kingdom whose people feared god more than local laws cause if you think people are stupid now thousands of years ago man. marriage is between a man and a woman is a good law whaen people are getting sick from fucking sheep. men killing each other cause everybody is banging their nieghbors wife.

i dont know why everyone is being caught up from this.. pureevil sounds like a person who doesnt believe in the whole christanity bit.. in the old testament many ppl got stoned from illegal acts.. stoned as in killed by stones.. surely times has changed... but the bible doesnt really talk about weed... nor does it say that you will goto hell from smoking it.. people infer that it is evil.. i say since its vague, people have their own opinion and listen to other ignorant people saying its evil.. im sure pureevil has never read the bible.. but you dont need to read to bible to know that what your doing is holy.. smoking weed and doing something immoral doesnt mean your doing something holy..

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Originally Posted by PureEvil760

The bible is outdated, its funny I have a friend that puts all of his faith into the bible, then thinks the shit that I read isnt real. I mean if you believe in the bible at all you have to believe in spiritual power, because it was just about a man who was a fully enabled human that displayed incredible spiritual power. Any of you can have all the abilities Jesus had, why not?

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This is a good point, we use what 10% of our brain? 20% at most?
Jesus used more, simply. So did Shiva, Mohammed, all these 'Gods'

Do you know what was taken out of the Bible?
Jesus said 'All these things I do, you can do and more'


OF COURSE JESUS LIKED WEED
FFS, That's a silly statement! :D

I'm a Pagan, I do believe Jesus walked this Earth, and I believe he was/is a very special person, but I have serious problems with the bible, some things I hold very dear to my heart ' do unto others as you would have them do unto you ' rings very true with me.

I believe there is evil, but not a devil. I believe Heaven and Hell is right here on Earth - it is what you make of your own life that determines whether your life is Heaven or Hell.

Cannabis is a medicinal herb, when used in moderation should never be considered a sin.

Take THC out of my system and watch this peace loving tree hugger turn into a wicked witch (happens after a few days of no appetite/food, and no relief from stress).

My Goddess is Mother Earth and Cannabis is Her, so to take into myself Cannabis is to take my Goddess into myself and be One with Her.:hippy:

well, if LEO, my angry mother and a pissed off ex didnt make me stop. im damn sure jesus' thoughts (or his followers for that matter) on it wouldnt affect me one bit.:jointsmile:

db:smokin:

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Originally Posted by Smudgeyboy

This is a good point, we use what 10% of our brain? 20% at most?

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That's completely and utterly false, we use most of our brain, that's like the biggest false rumour ever.

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Originally Posted by L Rag

That's completely and utterly false, we use most of our brain, that's like the biggest false rumour ever.

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i think 10% refers to how much we consciously use, that is how much we are, actively, in control of using.

The 10% brain myth has gotten a very interesting debunking on Snopes:

snopes.com: Ten Percent of our Brains

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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat

The 10% brain myth has gotten a very interesting debunking on Snopes:

snopes.com: Ten Percent of our Brains

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yeah, how many things do we do that actively engage 100% of the brain's potential?

"That's completely and utterly false, we use most of our brain, that's like the biggest false rumour ever."

Well...100+ years of documented study by people who devote their lives to the study of the human brain may have a better idea than just your OWN personal opinion.

the acutal SCIENTIFIC numbers are as follows:

12% consciuos

88% SUBconscious

You do not CONSCOIUSLY use the other 88% because it is being used for bodily functions, memory, digestion and many other factors your consciuos mind cannot handle.

if it did you would forget to breathe.

Now, to think that 88% of your brain is just sitting there wasting space, or has un-lockeable telekenetic abilities is as rash as believing that in the time the theoretical jesus walked the earth,performing healings and miracles, to believe that he did NOT use the MOST COMMON FORM OF MEDICINE IN THE AINCIENT WORLD to heal is as such niave.

Thats like saying modern doctors do not use saline or ibuprofin.

seriously.


Utilize that 12% EFFECTIVELY.

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Originally Posted by illuminati

"That's completely and utterly false, we use most of our brain, that's like the biggest false rumour ever."

Well...100+ years of documented study by people who devote their lives to the study of the human brain may have a better idea than just your OWN personal opinion.

the acutal SCIENTIFIC numbers are as follows:

12% consciuos

88% SUBconscious

You do not CONSCOIUSLY use the other 88% because it is being used for bodily functions, memory, digestion and many other factors your consciuos mind cannot handle.

if it did you would forget to breathe.

Now, to think that 88% of your brain is just sitting there wasting space, or has un-lockeable telekenetic abilities is as rash as believing that in the time the theoretical jesus walked the earth,performing healings and miracles, to believe that he did NOT use the MOST COMMON FORM OF MEDICINE IN THE AINCIENT WORLD to heal is as such niave.

Thats like saying modern doctors do not use saline or ibuprofin.

seriously.


Utilize that 12% EFFECTIVELY.

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Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding!!! we have a winner!

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Originally Posted by illuminati

"That's completely and utterly false, we use most of our brain, that's like the biggest false rumour ever."

Well...100+ years of documented study by people who devote their lives to the study of the human brain may have a better idea than just your OWN personal opinion.

the acutal SCIENTIFIC numbers are as follows:

12% consciuos

88% SUBconscious

You do not CONSCOIUSLY use the other 88% because it is being used for bodily functions, memory, digestion and many other factors your consciuos mind cannot handle.

if it did you would forget to breathe.

Now, to think that 88% of your brain is just sitting there wasting space, or has un-lockeable telekenetic abilities is as rash as believing that in the time the theoretical jesus walked the earth,performing healings and miracles, to believe that he did NOT use the MOST COMMON FORM OF MEDICINE IN THE AINCIENT WORLD to heal is as such niave.

Thats like saying modern doctors do not use saline or ibuprofin.

seriously.


Utilize that 12% EFFECTIVELY.

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Dude, you miss my point completely.
I was replying to Smudgeyboy - "This is a good point, we use what 10% of our brain? 20% at most?"
Where did he say consciously? Where did I say consciously? I only argued that we don't use 10% of our brains, I never said anything about conscious use. And I know you're right, most of it is unconscious, like all of the reptilian brain just used for heart beat,respiration,keeping chemical levels constant etc... But I wasn't WRONG, we we're both right, you just misunderstood me.
Btw, it's not my own personal opinion, it's the opinion of many psychology text books and my university lecturers.

"... But I wasn't WRONG, we we're both right, you just misunderstood me."


I just jumped in the forum...didn't even read your post.


I just threw it out there.

brain scans look like a butterfly.


now think about that, the superconscious...



the "flap" of a "butterfly's wings" can cause tsunamis across the globe.


maybe that's code for superconscious psychic powerz! :D


im mostly kidding, but who knows what kind of vibrations the brain gives off... technically vibrations never die, they just disperse and become larger and less noticable as they travel outward from the source...

This is my first post, and I must agree with the rastafarian. Marijuana
is mentioned in the bible as a constituent part of the 'holy annointing oil', which was used to annoint Jesus Christ, even immediately prior to his crucifiction. It is mentioned as 'kanna-bos', in the Hebrew bible I believe, which is arguably similar to a plant called calamus. It translates into english as 'the fragrant reed', and it is thought to have grown adjacent to running bodies of water in sandy areas. The holy annointing oil is said to have consisted of olive oil, cinnamon, myrrh, cannabis, and some other herbs and ingredients and it makes sense as the olive oil would break down the THC and dissolve it into the mixture through mashing in a mortar bowl. It may be sinful for the way it is consumed by smoking and by not practicing moderation.

BULLSHIT!!!!!!! he claims he is the son of god. his father created ALL living things PLANT and ANIMAL to use. In Genesis, God gives humankind "every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth"
Now your father gives you a new sports car but your uncle JEsus takes the KEYS!
Hot wire it and fire it up!
dad said so!