gotta be bowls joints waste they arent easy to roll either
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gotta be bowls joints waste they arent easy to roll either
i smoke blunts forever and always...
Blunts BLow! Somebody always niggerlips it. Damn ass fingers. Gotta wash your hands. Have a roach. I could go on and on...My 18" Chameleon gets all my attention. Ice and shit.
Im a joint and blunt person myself, I like how herbalmeditation said it:
Also, they arn't wasteful if u roll them right and have someone to pass it to after u take a hit.Quote:
down here it's live by the joint, die by the joint.. of course bowls give you fatter rips and shit like that but the best taste of weed comes from a joint, that and they last longer... and to me, nothing beats a session with da boys passing around a doobie....
Oh, and yeah, i think joints do take longer to air out, plus for some reason they stink up the place more than bowls do.
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Originally Posted by Boojum
Just go to a convenience store, buy a Phillies blunt or a White Owl, bust it open along a straight line, empty out the tobacco...and voila...blunt paper...
You can roll up as little as a gram in these, depending on how long you want it to be.
I thought everyone knew that...oh well, goes to show just how different we are.
I have found that if I put just a few drops of water at the bottom of a water bong and smoke it dry, the heat starts to vaporize the water, and somehow that makes it much much easier to scrape the resin off the walls of the bong. Then, all this resin gets recycled...it's just so easy that way...and you wouldn't believe the amount of resin you can collect just from a quarter bag or a half....Quote:
Originally Posted by 311junkie
y not hav both at the same time and get the best of both worlds....but if by urself u cn't beat a bong!
depends for outdoor smoking in public it gota be a nice inconspicuos 1 skin joint but when im all alon i like a good few bowls
Im goin with Edgar, if you think joints are wasteful you arnt rolling them right.
Think of all the resin that builds up on bowls and bongs, that right there is waste. With joints you're smoking from tip to end, the smoke is filtered by the remaining bud which is also eventually smoked.
When you smoke a bowl you are constantly applying flame to it, more flame is more heat which is more THC being destroyed. Joints on the other hand you should only have to light once, when you arn't hitting it somebody else should be and even when nobody is hitting it there is only a small trail of smoke rising.
The last hits are the best, and anything that remains can be re-rolled.
The study testing seven smoking devices can be found here: http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v06n3/06359mj1.html
I agree tobacco is fucking sick
And when you're not pulling on the J, where does the smoke go? Yep, into the air. Bye, bye THC. With a bowl, you can cap it off and keep the smoke from escaping after a toke. And the resin isn't wasted. When you get a good buildup of it in the bowl, you scrape it out and get high all over again. Plus, with a bowl, there's no burnt fingers and you don't have to worry about rolling technique or running out of papers. Just pack and toke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nullific
if you cant be fucked to pass the bong around then get a hooka, you can all sit round and smoke it at the same time and you dont have to pass it round, i hav'nt tried a hooka yet (dont need to, i ussaly smoke on my own, or with a mate of mine) but they would be the best things to use for groups i would imagine
If im at home just chillin or in a house, i totally want a bowl. BUT if im outside or anywhere else i want a joint, ya got me?
Which is precisely why you pass it, so that when you arn't hitting it somebody else can.Quote:
And when you're not pulling on the J, where does the smoke go? Yep, into the air. Bye, bye THC.
Whatever is lost in the air as smoke is probably made up for by not having to repeatedly re-light and expose the herb to more heat than necessary.
As for resin, you can't scrape it all, THC degrades; resin is basically the by-products of marijuana smoke, CBD and a meager amount of THC. Hell if you like bowls and you like to smoke resin whaatever but a MAPS/NORML study has shown joints to be very efficient.
Perhaps you should reread that study:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nullific
Unfortunately, they did not test a typical handpipe or bowl. I'd like to see them match a bowl against a joint. On the other hand, the study DID show joints appear to be healthier for your lungs, oddly enough (at least in terms of tar to THC ratio. It is not immediately clear to me how meaningful that is). But if I was worried about that, I wouldn't be smoking in the first place. Heh.Quote:
The percentage of total THC delivered to the user is called the THC transfer rate. The unfiltered joint scored surprisingly well in smoking efficiency, coming in second place with a transfer rate close to 20%. The portable waterpipe did slightly better, and the bong slightly worse. The other devices did notably worse. The vaporizers and electric waterpipe did especially poorly, with transfer rates less than one-third that of the top three devices.
No need to reread it, you just proved my point: joints are very efficient :eek: and healthy!
But bongs are more efficient. Screw healthy. Heh. ;)
ok all of this is a matter of opinion so there's no point in arguing about it....(if yal weren't then mybad but it seems to me like yal are going at it like i dunno...husband and wife or somthing lol) so lets just go smoke both right now and forget about the question....with me doesn't really matter (i do have a preferance tho and it is bowls hands down) how it gets in my lungs in the end, just the fact that it does.... there are times when joints are more appropriate.....i.e. smoking with friends because homedude did have a point the same weed of the same exact weight will burn faster in a bong because of the repeated relighting and extenguishing of the cherry.....and if you got a really big bowl (if metal such as a liberty bell) you are going to end up wasting atleast 3 or 4 hits with all the excesive lighting joints are also better (my opinon) where a bong/pipe would be just to noticeable. if i'm by myself or if i just feel to lazy it's always better (once again my opinion) to just pack a bowl and be done with it.... i don't know how yal are but if i happen to be smoking a j by myself and i'm already stoned i'll put the bitch out...and that too will waste atleast a hit.... just another example of weighing the advantages/disadvantages.
"Disappointingly, waterpipes performed uniformly worse than the unfiltered joint. The least bad waterpipe, the bong, produced 30% more tar per cannabinoids than the unfiltered joint. Ironically, the pipe with the electric mixer scored by far the worst of any device. This suggests that water filtration is actually counterproductive, apparently because water tends to absorb THC more readily than noxious tars. Like the waterpipes, the cigarette filter also performed worse than the unfiltered joint, by about 30%. Researchers speculate this is because cannabinoids are exceptionally sticky and adhere to other solids. Hence, any filtration system that picks up particulates is likely also to screen out cannabinoids."
Joints and blunts will always outsmoke bongs and bowls.