One Lonely Blueberry

Well that 8.5 one was a lot bigger but I see what you mean about the density.....I just figured that out in a moment of stoned brilliance while staring open-mouthed at it yesterday. The blueberry nugs seem more "solid" than the crystal ones which were more light and fluffy. These feel hard already and there is still a couple weeks to go. ;)

I'm afraid to say a number....I'm just not used to the shortness of the very indica influence of this plant. I'm going to make a guess of four or five but give me till the next grow to start estimating because there are several things here that are new to me.....the plant being by itself (for the most part) how dense it is, and the cool tube which I really feel has made a large difference here, especially to the lower and inner part of the plant. :thumbsup:

My yields are definitely getting better and I really feel I owe most of that to X-Crispi and his many hints, tips and help, supplies etc.....if he did any more of the work for me he'd have to live here. :)

No way Sis.
Thats what friends are for . :thumbsup: When we did 3 blueberry n 1 cottoncandy we sat -n- guessed at yields while manicuring . I was kinda disheartened w/ no forearm sized nugs / colas but the BB has got to be the densest plant I've ever grown . We guessed 5-6 oz. each and they were 10 - 10 - 11 oz each . Your gonna be suprised ;)
Crispi :jointsmile:

You aren't joking and now I see what ASD meant about "little clubs" :eek: They are solid as little rocks already. The two new ones are doing well but you can really see the difference between them....short stout BB and the cotton candy is doing the stretchy thing and bushing up. Because of the cool tube it's no problem to adjust everyone around the light accordingly despite the difference in sizes and they all receive max lighting right from the start of flower. :thumbsup:

I tried topping them my old way this time and have come to the conculsion that with something short and dense like the BB it was easier to start working with when topped early. We'll see if it makes a difference later on or not. I didnt really find any other improvement over X-C's way however so will probably top my rhinos the way he does. ;)

The first photo is the blueberry.....she's lost a fair amount of her older leaves to the ph issues I was having in veg (which seem to be flat out gone in bloom....and I'm using my soda, lol :cool:)...they are right about BB being sensitive when young. The cotton candy got through childhood better (2nd photo) but they both came back well in bloom. :)

I COMPLETELY missed ASD's statement about his expirement....is that age or weed......or both?

ASD....yes...please PLEASE let us know how long the soaking takes and I'll do the same on my next grow. I really do like my hydroton and don't want to lose it.

I was thinking of doing something along that line with it next grow....like soak for several days but your idea is better. :thumbsup:

hey WH. that BB plant. OMFG OMFG OMFG. that is huge like a mofo.

great job. and great job on the rest of em also.

Talk about coming a long way WH...I just saw the new pic of the bb and it's really swelling up...how many times did you top to get that many shoots so close together it's crazy :jointsmile: even with topping I've never had that kinda success

How's the root situation doin with all that available light? hope they aren't fillin the farms too quick

I'm slowly making progress on the setup, the biggest success so far is the wiring...with all the horror stories I was starting to get nervous while reading up but it was rather straight forward...made sure the power was off and just followed the diagrams haha *knocks on wood* so far everything is goin fine

Beautiful work as usual WH I'm still excited to see the CC come along never tried that one

One of the pics shows them all starting to thicken up and seperate as all their own little nuggets as opposed to one big cola. That's what I finally figured out would happen but now I have the feeling they'll get even bigger than I am guessing. :eek:

The other plants are all doing well....the cotton candy has really gone nuts and the white rhinos did great while I was gone.....hmmmm.....BUT I'll say I did dump a bunch of supplements onto the rhinos just to try to raise the ppms and keep the ph stable while I was gone.....which seemed to have worked and they snarfed up all the supplements as well. :)

ASD, I only topped that plant once; at about 10 inches or something; waitied a week and then turned it. The rest of it Crispina did all by herself. :thumbsup:

wow hound, those plants look SUPER!!!:thumbsup:

IRL these buds look more orange than purplish....I wonder if the camera has captured the truer color (taken with HPS off) but small light is so crappy I can't tell the real color of the buds so I'll leave it up to the viewer to decide which is real and which is Memorex. :eek:

A quick note.....changed my seedlings yesterday and the ppms are up to 700. The ph seems to have stabilized FINALLY! :yippee::woohoo:

The pics are awsome Sis . - There's a lil Subcool hidden in all of us :D
Your seeing what I was whinning about way back in the DWC club thead = No forearm sized colas , but thumb sized super dense nugs everywhere you look . :thumbsup:
No huge colas = Jedi mind tricks w/ us - atleast it sure tricked me into thinking it would affect the yield adversly . The Blueberry at almost 10 weeks has been the most couck-lok strain I've ever done . Just drool -n- get absolutely nothing done . :) Mr. Weedhound is gonna get some good sleep because of this stuff .
Later Sis.
Crispi :jointsmile:

hey man i got some blueberry on tha go at the moment to along with strawberry cough there in bout 2 an half weeks flower now an lookin good il post a grow log later on when the buds get fatter an theres somethin good to show ya

looking really great weedhound

Thanks Mark. :) I grabbed a bud and looked at the trichs this am....all still clear and just barely starting to turn cloudy. I think I will start flushing at the end of this coming week.

Mark now that your buds are cured do they look purple or blueish at all?

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hey man i got some blueberry on tha go at the moment to along with strawberry cough there in bout 2 an half weeks flower now an lookin good il post a grow log later on when the buds get fatter an theres somethin good to show ya

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Yes start a grow log because everyone LOVES to see photos..;)

Can we see pictures of your seedlings?

Well Weedhound, that blueberry shouldn't be lonely- thing is burly enough to keep itself company just fine. She looks excellent. Looks like you are within a week of harvest too!

well, it looks like I'm gonna be ashamed to post photos of my own pitiful, little plants, anytime soon :weedpoke: ... you have done beautiful work there, WOW ! ... I'm not giving up, I'm gonna catch up to you 'greenthumbs' someday ... :thumbsup:

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Thanks Mark. :) I grabbed a bud and looked at the trichs this am....all still clear and just barely starting to turn cloudy. I think I will start flushing at the end of this coming week.

Mark now that your buds are cured do they look purple or blueish at all?

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certain parts of one plant had started to turn purple near the end when I started having bad problems with them...some you can see a sorta blue hue, but would be much more had I not ran into shit..really good indica buzz with ambers though, I love it

Here's the rhinos. They have perked up quite a bit since the ph has become more stable. 19 days today. I just started using the VHO on them. I'm going to give the hydroton one more go with the next set of seedlings and just make sure to soak the living shit out of it forever before I start. Probably will try some more of my MK-x seeds this time......decisions, decisions.:D

Mark, I am starting to see some really dark, almost like purple black colored hues here and there.......you can REALLY see it when you take photos....not just of the pistils but the actual leaves and bud themselves.

Reaper.....it's you guys that dig a hole, stick a seed in it and then grow a nice plant IN THE DIRT that scare me. I can't do it to save my life. If I have my little hydro numbers I'm good but that's it. :wtf:

Stinky, you really think another week? I was thinking more like two and wasn't going to start flushing until this weekend. :eek:

I really want a water farm after seeing all these amazing results that you, and others using DWC are getting. I'm still somewhat afraid of messing up something, as I've never done hydroponics before, so I would plan on getting GH Floranova Grow and Bloom, as to minimize the possibility of messing up and killing them :wtf:.

I'm looking at the single water farm kit. I'm wondering weedhound, how often do you change your reservoir? I plan on getting one of those heaters, to keep the reservoir temperature at a constant temperature for EXPLOSIVE growth :rasta: lol.

So, would you recommend starting the seeds in the water farm, as long as I keep the hydroton wet? I normally germinate in peat pellets, but I've read it will eventually get into your reservoir and potentially cause problems if you transplant them into a hydro system. Sorry for all the questions, I'm completely new to hydro, but very fascinated by all these mind blowing results. And I want to get the best out of autoflowering varieties and I heard hydro is the way to go for that.

Actually HB I found the botanicare line to be more easy and convenient than the GH series but that's only my personal opinion. The less things I have to mix and measure the better and botanicare puts everything in one bottle ready to go.

I change my res every day really.....at least I recirculate to new stuff daily and I think it helps the plants grow better and definitely helps with the ph issues. I change the entire rez about once a week but top off with fresh stuff in the meantime. When the plants get to that size they'll snuffle up a gallon a day or so.

You can buy the waterfarm or you can make one pretty easily....X-C made those big 5 gallon ones to grow his 19oz trees in and a friend of mine made hers with some five gallon buckets as well.

I honestly don't know anything about peat pots....I germinate my seeds in rapid rooters and then just stick the enitre RR in the setup once I see a taproot coming out the bottom. I'm told you your plant must have some sort of root system to go into the waterfarm so you'll need to germ them in something else. I like the rr's because trying to plant a teeeeeeny little seedlings in those hydroton rocks without damaging anything is pretty damn impossible to me and I can just pop the entire rr in without hurting anything.

I love hydro growing personally and would be lost without it. I really feel that if you follow the directions exactly and start with some good seeds you WILL grow some nice plants. Soil has so many unknowns and guesses......makes me crazy. Hydro's not that way at all imo.

Well, I really want to get the single unit Water Farm before I shell out the money for the 8 unit with main reservoir one. I want to make sure I enjoy it, etc...

I buy spring water by the gallon, as my PH is quite alkaline and hard, so would this be how I would go about doing things?: Fill the reservoir with 4 gallons of spring water, and then mix in the nutrients for whatever stage of growth they are in? And then, each week dump it out, and do the same thing again? Because if that's all there is to it, it seems much easier than soil. Of course I would buy a pH meter and pH + and - just in case the pH is off. It says it comes with hydroponics nutrients. Does it come with the Flora line?

The GH FloraNova is also just one part, like the Botanicare line you mentioned. I'm debating between GH FloraNova and Botanicare Pro. I also don't like mixing a lot of things, especially since I'll be new to hydroponics.

But one thing that scares me, is it seems to me that a lot of people initially run into some sort of problem with pH, or I'll notice them adding things such as calcium and magnesium because their plants have deficiencies. So, in all reality, will I definitely need more than my nutrients in order for my plants to go from seed to harvest in the water farm?

I'm also wondering what you're opinion on planting 4 Master Lows in the water farm. The only thing I'm worried about, is the fact that autoflowering plants (and all plants apparently, lol) thrive in the water farm. I could see planting 4 master lows in a 4 gallon pot of soil, but I'm wondering if their roots would just go crazy, and somehow die. Perhaps 2 Master Lows?

Hmmm....I'm not too familiar with the autoflowering strains but my friend used a five gallon bucket waterfarm (the ones you buy are 2 and 1/2 gallon) and I'd say you could put 4 good plants in there if you were't worried about roots growing together...four per the larger waterfarm that is.. probably 2 for the smaller storebought kind.

The ph issues usually stem from your water....you'll need to get that part right before or you'll go mad. Everything in hydro goes back to ph.

Let me dig up some threads on that stuff.....I can think of some good ones about DWC and ph issues.

This one about water and ph is excellent. I didn't know that GH even had a one part....i'm sure that will work more than fine for you. Also think about what medium you want to use.....have you read all my sobbing on my hydroton issues?

http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-pro...-question.html

Here's another one on DWC....this is a great thread and will answer any questions you have about it.

http://boards.cannabis.com/91976-wat...-dwc-club.html

The ph thread talks alot about RO and distilled water which is something to give serious thought to in hydro so study up on that. If you do go with one of those you'll need to use CalMag+ to replace lost minerals etc in your water to prevent defs. This is where (imo) people start veering off from what they are told. Allow me to PONTIFICATE :jointsmile: once more....if you do exactly what you are told...which may be buy this or use that for instance....so sometimes hydro can get expensive.....more so than soil I think; especially when you first start. Once you get things going it gets better and cheaper. But if you are willing to bite the bullet at first and commit the results are excellent :thumbsup:

Thank you for those links, the DWC club link didn't work, but I searched for it and found it. I'll be studying those for the next few hours, lol.
Peace,
:rasta:

Np HB. ;) Just don't ask me stuff about building parts etc....I'll buy it first. :D

Well snipped off another bud and trich are all still clear....maybe 5-10% cloudy so I'm going to stick with starting flushing on friday. That tends to slow things down somewhat as well.

PS...The bud is absolutely CRAMMED with trichs...the damn things are just growing on top of each other almost. .I'll try to get a photo but seriously they are hard to see without the scope....just don't seem to show up as well as they did on the crystal....but they are definitely there. :thumbsup:

Let's see some day 47 pics of the entire plant ;)!

Hb....one thing I forgot to say that you had mentioned....with a waterfarm I don't think you will need a heater.....if anything perhaps a chiller. When they sit on the floor like they do the water will usually go to within a few degrees of your room temp so that's one of the reasons you want to try to keep your room temp down. I see many more issues with water that is too warm than being too cold. Some other cud to chew on.....PS....I don't use either but try to keep my room below 74 degrees.....the water usually ends up a little below 70. ;)

With a regular indica strain, how much do you think a maximum yield would be using a 250 watt hps? Also, would you recommend a 250 watt MH compared to CFLs for vegetative growth in order to get the maximum yield?

Well before I used my cfls I used a 1kwmh and I think there was a pretty good difference but I'm not sure about the 250watt...I've never tried it. The mh bulbs also run somewhat hotter than hps so keep that in mind. ;)

This may be a stupid question, but I just recently noticed that the WaterFarm has a drip ring and I don't know why. I was under the impression that the WaterFarm was a DWC system, in that there would be an airstone in the bottom that would bubble and splash the roots to hydrate it, not a drip ring which is a drip system. Can you clear this up for me?

Sure.....alot of people call waterfarm DWC but they ARE drip systems. There is no airstone in the bottm of these although you could probably stick one in if you wanted to....would only help. After the plant gets to a certain size with a bunch of roots it does seem to become a DWC....the roots sit in the water constantly so they must be drawing nutes and water up.

i've never tried the true DWC.....started with the w/f's and have stuck with them. The only problems I've had is clogged drip rings so you have watch those and rinse them out every once in awhile (more when the plant gets older....like every few days) ....otherwise I don't think there's much difference.

I found this that convinced me to use an airstone if I get the water farm. I'm thinking of building my own DWC bubbler if I can find 5 gallon buckets, as I found lids with 10" net pots built in at the hydro store.

Anyway here's this link, to show the difference between the waterfarm with and without the airstone. Pimp My WaterFarm - The Garden's Cure

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Well before I used my cfls I used a 1kwmh and I think there was a pretty good difference but I'm not sure about the 250watt...I've never tried it. The mh bulbs also run somewhat hotter than hps so keep that in mind. ;)

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Do you think cfl's would be fine to grow out clones in their vegging period? I plan on taking 4 clones from my plant next time around and veg them until I decide to flower with 100w CFL's. 6400 lumen's. Will that be enough?

O-man,
clones n CFLs is a GO.

i'm in week 4 clone-ville, took em just b4 flowering.
had issue with goo where roots shoulda spawned.

but they been under 15w cfls about 6-8 inches away on 18-6 and are coming back VERY WELL!:D

this pic is about a week ago, they r better now, and i am transplanting this weekend!
da-clones

Oman I agree with Rock....they will do you fine and you are getting this info from a guy who has 12 OF THEM!! (hee hee:D). All lighting has its own problems but Im using cfls for my seedlings and they're doing very well on them so I don't think you'll have a problem there.

HB....I could be mistaken but I thought X-C had airstones in the bottom of his as well. Maybe THATS how HE'S GETTING OVER A POUND OFF ONE PLANT......we shall have to investigate this further and perhaps make changes. :wtf: I will check out this thread...thanks. ;)

Here is the blueberry and today I start flushing. It seems to be suddenly going faster than I thought.....(it heard Stinky dictate the timtable :)) so start flushing today and then just wait and see. i'm still afraid to guess the yield but X-C is right that it will be good.....tons of solid little thumb sized rocks just like he said.

Close up taken with tripod....big diff eh? Really IS starting to turn purple but just looks dark if you glance at it. Needs the photos to really show off it's pretty color. :thumbsup:

Looks so yummy , trichs stacked on top of trichs . :thumbsup:
The last 2 hydro plants I did seemd to like drip and dwc simutainously . :D
My next garden will be 4 - 5 gal. buckets , using the 325 gph 4-port g/h supplied air pump just to run the 4 driprings . I just got a new Sunleaves 950 gph industrial quality airpump to drive the 4 airstones -1 in each 5 gal. bucket using the hockey puck style airstones Deftdrummer is currently using . = almost 3 times the air to each stone compared to last grow . Hopefully the girls will be even happier .
Peace Sis.
Crispi :jointsmile:

My second blueberry is just having a terrible time. :(I believe it's hot spots due to mylar issues because you can see that the cotton candy right next to it is doing fine. I've moved this plant to several different locations to try to avoid the hot spots but can't seem to do anything really helpful for it besides pull the light back (which affects the others)

As you can see in the one photo I've simply pulled the mylar from that section of the wall and I will see what happens. My next step would (or will) probably be flat white paint or something along that line. I'm not happy with how much this plant has been affected but what can you do? :wtf: