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You SAVED them??? With an Atomic bomb? I'm sure the people of Nagasaki and Hiroshima and all their relatives all over Japan are thankful. I'm sure they get together on the anniversary to collectively thank the Americans for killing hundreds of thousands instantly. I'm sure they thank you for obliterating two entire cities, for irradiating the entire region, for babies being born still today with birth defects from high radiation levels, for entire generations of people dying of cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by NowhereMan
Thank you USA!
P.S. When are you gonna thank Osama for 9/11?
P.P.S. Psycho, that was priceless :D
my boss's wife is japanese and her parents are relieved about the bomb believe it or not!it made the japenese quit fighting and they didnt force any more people to fly in suicide planes or kill themselves hara kiri.i didnt know FLESH is japenese??
"pacifistic ways are good in theory, but so is communism"
How would you know pacifists ways dont work?(The Netherlands seem to be pretty successful at it.) We in the USA have never tried being pacifists. We very often start the chain reactions that leads us to war. It is for that reason that terrorists are even concerned with us. Most countries at war, are only getting what they put into it. (war doesn't start in a vacuum.) In Iraq all we did (for our own people.) was create new anti-American terrorists and slightly delay the inevitable oil shortage. We may have freed a nation of people from the grip of an evil regime, but that was not our intent going into this war, and it will not prove 'worth it' to our citizens in the long run.(especially if it leads to another terrorist attack on our home soil.) I believe a country has every right to defend its self, but this country is doing little in that regard. Our borders are pretty much wide open, our chemical plants and water supplies arn't being guarded, Airports are still not secure,(Partly because we expect them to pay for all the security upgrades, when they are broke as fuck.) and we have almost all our troops spread thinly across the entire freakin globe, leaving us wide open for attack.
I dont believe this is some religious crusade either, but thats sorta what this whole 'spreading democracy' thing sounds like code for... Its not though, Its all an elaberate charade to expand business interests. Thats why they cherry picked iraq over the many other greater dangers to the US, because it was good for business. Bush has been heard talking about going into Iraq, before 9/11 even happened, so that tends to further indicate that 9/11 had absolutely nothing to do with Iraq.
Today's Christians are in no way Christ-like. Their livestyles are so far removed from his that his teachings, if followed to the letter, would mean instant poverty and humiliation in today's world, just as Jesus suffered in his times. I don't see many so-called Christians doing much suffering. I see a lot of suffering being poured out by them. Most of our leaders profess to be Christian. Born again, no less. Yet they have no compassion for the world that has been militarily destroyed by their sanctioning of the War on Terror, or the War on Drugs, or any war for that matter. The time to have compassion is BEFORE you throw the bombs. The Elite have the Christians and other religions eating out of their tax sheltered, religous based initiative, life and death deciding hands. Even the bible states that in the end times, even the Saints shall be decieved. Sounds like that has been happening for a while now.
I have nothing against Christians or any religion. But my faith is based on hard evidence. Not fantasy, and not violence. The laws of the Universe will be enforced on the religious and the non-religious. I suspect one law of the Universe would be that under no circumstance should you ever wage War to bring Peace. And if you ever see any black sticky stuff oozing out of the ground, leave it alone! "Progress" or "The search for a way to make a profit" has only lead us to the brink of destruction. To be satisfied by the natural order of things, to embrace simplicity, compassion, diversity in culture, and to turn away from "Progress" is the only way to achieve what the Creator intended. But, of course, this is just my opinion, and not that of Yahooka or any other organization.
Peace. Legalize, then Revolutionize!
to answer the question finally,yes they should have gone to war.no doubt.
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what is so bad with Kofi Annan? and one of the other guys is dead.
he is a scum bag
heres what you really sound like!
hahahah
I say we shoot al people who shoot at us. By flying a plane into our building, you are shooting at us... When you shoot at the Unioted States, they shoot back, unlike certain European nations....
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Originally Posted by F L E S H
and im sure manchuria thanks your ancestors for raping them
anything else??
Do you know man that even to a heathen like me there is an honesty to what you say that has to be praised , eloquently put I must say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannabist00
yeah i refuse to even think that torog has a brain. be contradicts himself everytime he posts.
If we should of gone should not of gone into iraq, the simple fact is that we ARE there. And thousands of our young men and women are dying over there. If you support the war or not, you should at least have some respect for those who stood up and said "yeah ill go even if i may disagree with it, cause its my job". No matter what you write on these boards, left wing right wing, fucking moron or genius...thats not gonna change anything that is and already has happened. If america was so against this war they why the fuck is Bush still president? I cant seem to figure that one out...i know i didnt vote for him, but i still support everyone that is there there with their ass in the mess.
Summed up tho, this is a situation that i see getting much worse before it gets better. There really isnt an easy way out now.
if this is seriosly Your fucking ridiculously stupid presidents "war on terrror" stemming from 9/11 what the fuck is he doing in Iraq? 16 of the 19 hijackers were saudi, i think the rest yemeni. an estimated 100,000 iraqi civilians have been killed. 3000 died on 9/11. George W bush just doesn't get it. this isnt a war on nations its a war on a singular terrorist organisation so you cant just send the marines everywhere to do his dirtywork. I admit saddam was a dick to his people. but how many dick dictators are there in this world? numerous. so why iraq? soft target to make the american public feel there is at least something being done in this stupid "war on terror". all its doing is breeding american hatred across the middle east and making organisations like al-quida bigger.
Lol, I remember when Americans were talking about 'capturing those Afghan sumbitches' after 9/11. Suddenly, it's Iraq instead because Bush said so. The entire country changes their opinion instantly. Did someone say 'sheep'?
it sure seemed that the iraqis were quite happy on jan. 2?
I'm sure they were. Doesn't change my point.
just makes it funny.and pointless.move on.
Sure, I just thought the whole idea was to make those that caused 9/11 pay.
I'll bet they can't believe their luck :D .
and those countries as well as people are being taught a lesson in power.they fucked with the wrong country.
thats why they are focused on WEAK targets like Spain,thailand,etc.
Jeez what a load of guff !!Quote:
Originally Posted by amsterdam
No country has the right to attack another based on lies and bullshit !!
No WMD remember.
America is the biggest manipulator of spin and BS in the world , if they had kept their noses out of other countries affairs they wouldn't have so many enemies.
Just because you have might doesn't make you right.
Lol, but they're not are they. Only Iraq, the place with the oil.Quote:
Originally Posted by amsterdam
Osama must feel on top of the world. Everyone that died on 9/11 died in vein. He's got nothing to worry about, Iraq's taking the punishment.
What a joke! :D
and the typical oil cop out.
actually,the world is undergoing a huge push forward in the direction of democracy.intercepted letters show a falling in support and funding for these murderers.
like i always say,you have more people in LA and New York protesting the war than you do in afghanistan,iraq,ukraine,egypt etc. etc..
once again,liberals are on the wrong side of history.get ready for a republican majority for a long time.
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
Once again I am forced to repeat myself because of the ignorance of others , DEFINE LIBERAL ??
I certainly don't consider myself anything when it comes to pigeonholing , my political views are not really in line with any of the major parties.
The attacks on allied forces should give you an idea about how the people of Iraq (please don't try to tell me it's just foreign insurgents because that is BS) feel about the wonderful liberation force.(sic)
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Originally Posted by psychocat
you would think 8+ million iraqis who risked their lives to vote in a democratic election would have some impact on your thinking,it dosent.
give that country five years,big things are gonna come from them.they are brave and strong people who will defeat the terrorists.
No, it was not, and what justification that has been produced by all major governments has been proven as a tissue of inacuracy.
Some of the available info is pretty damming, and its interesting (as always) to see amsterdam et al. not giving any factual proof of falsehood, but instead opting for rhetoric, name calling and labelling....but thats the expectation.
8 million iraqis aint rhetoric buddy.
like i said,its common sense.
The question isn't should america have gone to war or not, the answear is they simply had no choice. America has been going into the middle east and takin all the oil. And the best part is The United states built sadamm to defeat the irinians if any one can recall that. not only that the US aided afganistan against the russians. Yet The United states still played dictator after the wars and still tried to spread influnece in the middle east. So in reality, america was asking to to go to war and the arabs resonded by destroying the twin towers. If u ask me, i dont call the arabs terrorists, i call them freedom fighters. They want United states rule out of the middle east and i dont blame them. The Middle East belongs to the arabs/ iraquis. For the record the united states had no choice but to go to war. If anything this is a religious war. This war wont be over for a long time. The perfect example of this is jihad and jihid is "any infadele or supporter of the enemy should be exterminated" and that enemy to them is the united states, england and any arabs supporting the united states regime. So when will the war be over, it will be over when all infendales are dead or the whlle middle east is dead, its that simple ladies and gentleman
hey torog whats up.. i like most of your posts but i have to respectfully disagree with you on this one we never should have gone to iraq until we finished in afganistan saddam was not a threat and i want osama bin forgottens liver on a stick we were lied to about the threat that iraq posed and because of the war in iraq we have not had the manpower or resources to go after the people who actually did attack us now im not sayin im a G.W. SHRUB or i mean BUSH supporter im not nor was i in favor of kerry they are both related to each other and are both imo very evil people and as far as the UN goes no self respecting redneck or redneck hippy would ever support a orginization thats sole purpose is to destroy the sovereignty of our great nation im sure if you and me sat down and burned one and had a couple cold ones we'd find we agree on most subjects [ 2cnd amendment states rights privacy ect.] but as istated i have to respectfully disagree with you on this one hope all is well down your way and take care bro peace jimQuote:
Originally Posted by Torog
*reads title*
*laughs and goes about his day*
Wrong side of history? History is written by the victor, so I guess it just depends who wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by amsterdam
Republican majority? Ye gods, I hope not. But I fear you may be right. We haven't had a worthwhile Democrat in office since Carter. He almost legalized it, but he failed us at the last minute. And what have Republicans done for us? Nixon founded the DEA, and therefore the War on (some) Drugs. Reagan told us to "just say no" while D.A.R.E. told our children overblown lies about drugs. G.H.W. Bush said "the rules have changed" and "we'll make room" (in jail for drug offenders). Guess that doesn't apply to his cokehead family! Clinton may or may not have inhaled (I personally hope he did), but neither did he do anything to change the status quo. :rolleyes:
The flaw in your thinking is that democracy can truly work in a corner of the world that missed out on the Enlightenment. You know, the age of reason, and the birthplace of the idea of separation of church and state. This NEVER HAPPENED in the middle east, and religious leaders control the state. Politics and religion go hand-in-hand there. This is a bad idea, for historical reasons that should be obvious - the Church of England had enormous political influence and that is exactly what the founders of this country came here to avoid. It seems that Bush and his right-wing bible-beating followers have forgotten that little fact, and seem to want to push their religious ideals on the rest of the country. Just look at Roe v. Wade. Conservatives would love for the Supreme Court to overturn that decision. I'm sure they loved the Asscroft v. Raich decision, too. That sickened me, personally. My wife has chronic pain that only chronic seems to relieve, so I can only imagine Angel Raich's plight. That the Supreme Court ruled against her... to me, is just unconscionable. How can we claim to support life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and deny (by force, as usual) a sick woman the medication she needs? That woman is a prisoner in her own body... you don't need to take it any farther than that.
Don't even get me started on the war on Iraq. I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck Saddam Hussein had to do with Osama Bin Laden. It just doesn't seem related at all. And even if it was, is 100,000 Iraqi's lives worth 3,000 of ours? Are we somehow more important than the rest of the world? Wait a minute... don't answer that. I think I already know your answer.
I just get the bad feeling that Iraq is merely a training ground for our troops to practice urban warfare... next thing you know, Lord High Emperor Bush will turn them on the people of this country and make Kent State look like a picnic in the quod. :eek: There's already a bill that has been introduced that would repeal the 22nd amenment, making it possible for Bush to continue seeking office. New Bill This should scare EVERYONE, regardless of your political affiliation.
I could be wrong, but what if I'm right? Actually, I'm a bit left of center... I guess if you could call me anything it would be libertarian. Leave me the fuck alone to do as I will. Don't tread on me. The government's only role SHOULD BE to protect its citizens, not persecute them. Jefferson and Washington would agree. I would love to spark a doobie with them, then (after we came down, because this would be a total buzzkill) take them to D.C. to see what a mockery of their original intent this nation has become. They would be absolutely APPALLED. :(
You're bang on Aleax. Welcome to cannabis.com!
that bill passed yesterday,and you should go and read the bill and see what it means and why it was passed before you invoke the typical knee-jerk.
ah fuck it,long live king george.
Your Godamn right about the war in Iraq The world trade center bombings were staged
Got to info wars and read up Bubba
I serisouly suggest in investing in assualt type weaponry
Another Sativa smoker bites the dust...news at 11:00!Quote:
Originally Posted by WalkaWalka
BWWWWAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!! :D
seriously,what a joke.the issue of national security will never be trusted to the left again,digging their own graves as we speak.
no if we were as mad as everyone said we should have did what we did to japan when they attacked pearl harbor nuke em
we didnt nuke Japan right after they slaughtered our people.we waited to the last minute to join WW11 and then after a long hard choice decided to drop the bombs.(in the process saving probably a million lives on each side)
OH WHATEVER!!! The US CAUSED the september 11 attacks! You know why? BECAUSE OUR GOVERNMENT IS CORRUPT AND EVIL EVIL EVIL!!! The Bush's are in alliance with the Bin Ladens! Isn't it convenient that noone's found Bin Laden yet? THE BUSHS' ARE PROTECTING HIM! Why? because they want money and power and world domination. We should not be in Iraq, the poor old country has almost fizzled out into nothingness anyway, there's not much we can do to help, everyone there is brainwashed...just like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Torog