Barack Obama: "I Inhaled Frequently," "That Was The Point"
Hillary's team has questions about Obama's Muslim background
Issue Date: Jan. 16-22, 2007, Posted On: 1/17/2007
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Are the American people ready for an elected president who was educated in a Madrassa as a young boy and has not been forthcoming about his Muslim heritage?
This is the question Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton??s camp is asking about Sen. Barack Obama.
An investigation of Mr. Obama by political opponents within the Democratic Party has discovered that Mr. Obama was raised as a Muslim by his stepfather in Indonesia. Sources close to the background check, which has not yet been released, said Mr. Obama, 45, spent at least four years in a so-called Madrassa, or Muslim seminary, in Indonesia.
"He was a Muslim, but he concealed it," the source said. "His opponents within the Democrats hope this will become a major issue in the campaign."
When contacted by Insight, Mr. Obama??s press secretary said he would consult with ??his boss? and call back. He did not.
Sources said the background check, conducted by researchers connected to Senator Clinton, disclosed details of Mr. Obama's Muslim past. The sources said the Clinton camp concluded the Illinois Democrat concealed his prior Muslim faith and education.
"The background investigation will provide major ammunition to his opponents," the source said. "The idea is to show Obama as deceptive."
In two best-selling autobiographies??"The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream" and "Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance"??Mr. Obama, born in Honolulu where his parents met, mentions but does not expand on his Muslim background, alluding only to his attendance at a "predominantly Muslim school."
The sources said the young Obama was given the name Hussein by his Muslim father, which the Illinois Democrat rarely uses in public.
His father was black and came from Kenya. Mr. Obama??s mother, the daughter of a farmer, came from Wichita, Kansas. Mr. Obama's parents divorced when he was two years old. His father returned to Kenya.
Later, Mr. Obama's mother married an Indonesian student and the family moved to Jakarta. Mr. Obama returned to Hawaii when he was 10 to live with his maternal grandparents.
The sources said the background check concerned Mr. Obama's years in Jakarta. In Indonesia, the young Obama was enrolled in a Madrassa and was raised and educated as a Muslim. Although Indonesia is regarded as a moderate Muslim state, the U.S. intelligence community has determined that today most of these schools are financed by the Saudi Arabian government and they teach a Wahhabi doctrine that denies the rights of non-Muslims.
Although the background check has not confirmed that the specific Madrassa Mr. Obama attended was espousing Wahhabism, the sources said his Democratic opponents believe this to be the case??and are seeking to prove it. The sources said the opponents are searching for evidence that Mr. Obama is still a Muslim or has ties to Islam.
Mr. Obama attends services at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago??s South Side. However, he is not known to be a regular parishioner.
"Obama's education began a life-long relationship with Islam as a faith and Muslims as a community," the source said. "This has been a relationship that contains numerous question marks."
The sources said Mr. Obama spent at least four years in a Muslim school in Indonesia. They said when Mr. Obama was 10, his mother and her second husband separated. She and her son returned to Hawaii.
"Then the official biography begins," the source said. "Obama never returned to Kenya to see relatives or family until it became politically expedient."
In both of his autobiographies, Mr. Obama characterizes himself as a Christian??although he describes his upbringing as mostly secular.
In ??The Audacity of Hope,? Mr. Obama says, "I was not raised in a religious household." He describes his mother as secular, but says she had copies of the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita in their home.
Mr. Obama says his father was "raised a Muslim, but by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist...." Mr. Obama also describes his father as largely absent from his life. He says his Indonesian stepfather was "skeptical" about religion and "saw religion as not particularly useful in the practical business of making one's way in the world ...."
In the book, Mr. Obama briefly addresses his education in Indonesia. "During the five years that we would live with my stepfather in Indonesia, I was sent first to a neighborhood Catholic school and then to a predominantly Muslim school; in both cases, my mother was less concerned with me learning the catechism or puzzling out the meaning of the muezzin's call to evening prayer than she was with whether I was properly learning my multiplication tables."
Mr. Obama graduated from Columbia University and Harvard Law School; he became the first black editor of the Harvard Law Review. He later settled in Chicago, joined a law firm and began attending and helping local churches.
Mr. Obama is married to Michelle Robinson and they have two daughters, Malia and Sasha. In 1996, he was elected to the Illinois state Senate. Eight years later, he became a U.S. senator from Illinois.
The sources said Ms. Clinton regards Mr. Obama as her most formidable opponent and the biggest obstacle to the Democratic Party??s 2008 presidential nomination. They said Ms. Clinton has been angered by Mr. Obama's efforts to tap her supporters for donations.
In late 2006, when the Illinois senator demonstrated his intention to run for president, the Clinton campaign ordered a background check on Mr. Obama, the sources said. Earlier this week, Mr. Obama established an exploratory committee, the first step toward a formal race.
Copyright © 2006 News World Communications
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Barack Obama: "I Inhaled Frequently," "That Was The Point"
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Originally Posted by Zimzum
You gonna give yourself an aneurysm arguing with bong to hard. He can somehow turn any post into some bazaar Muslim fetish.
Once again....This is Politics...you want nice Take it to the Lounge
It is funny you guys pick out spelling and grammar, but you never address a Point?
Back on focus.... My point was If we were living under Sharia law would Marijuana laws be better or worse?
I say they would be WAY worse....
your turm
(feel free to be assclowns you are good at it, do what your good at)
Barack Obama: "I Inhaled Frequently," "That Was The Point"
BA they are telling us...... that with his name being Hussein. he was never a Muslim never had any muslim influance....nothing.....
HIs "christian" church is full of Racist......Ill post there Purpose statement again for you "non Believers"
Right on Point again BA....
who is your candidate BA? What do you think of Mit?
Barack Obama: "I Inhaled Frequently," "That Was The Point"
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Originally Posted by Bong30
Once again....This is Politics...you want nice Take it to the Lounge
It is funny you guys pick out spelling and grammar, but you never address a Point?
Back on focus.... My point was If we were living under Sharia law would Marijuana laws be better or worse?
I say they would be WAY worse....
your turm
(feel free to be assclowns you are good at it, do what your good at)
My point is quite obvious: WE WON'T BE LIVING UNDER SHARIA LAW. Unless you plan on moving out of the country, but I don't.
Barack Obama: "I Inhaled Frequently," "That Was The Point"
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Originally Posted by vileoxidation
What point? That you are a jerk who can't debate and uses cop-out lines?
There is a difference between standing for something because you want to make enemies and are a close-minded jerk and standing for something because you actually believe it is correct, and can back that up with more then, "Oh, I made my point!" and "That's what he wants us to think."
You haven't made any point except that you can't debate and are close-minded.
Are you ever going to debate my point....(weed under sharia law? btw)
You have a Disorder Called Liberalism.......
In this case you just read what you want to and NEVER say anything about my points, cause you cant.......
Barack Obama: "I Inhaled Frequently," "That Was The Point"
In 30 years we wont?
If we lose the war?
Europe is about 10 years
they allready have 2 justice systems there
regular and muslims
when will it just be muslim?
they have a will, pussy brits and pussy americans dont... i aint no pussy
Barack Obama: "I Inhaled Frequently," "That Was The Point"
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Originally Posted by Bong30
In 30 years we wont?
If we lose the war?
Europe is about 10 years
they allready have 2 justice systems there
regular and muslims
when will it just be muslim?
they have a will, pussy brits and pussy americans dont... i aint no pussy
Okay, but again you are not on the point. I don't care about what Sharia law says, as it doesn't effect me, and it won't, as we are not going to be taken over anytime soon. LOL.
My point is that what you are saying about Sharia law has nothing to do with Obama, and so by bringing it up you are just being a close-minded fool who likes to stir up trouble.
I am not a liberal, by the way. I split just about evenly on how many issues I agree with each side on. I am a moderate, just not a racist.
Barack Obama: "I Inhaled Frequently," "That Was The Point"
The whole living under Sharia law reminds me of common scare tactics used throughout history. Convince your nation that you are a target, in danger, and that the other candidate is a hippy who if put in charge would cause your nation to somehow completely collapse under rule of another nation, honestly.
Barack Obama: "I Inhaled Frequently," "That Was The Point"
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Originally Posted by Bong30
BA they are telling us...... that with his name being Hussein. he was never a Muslim never had any muslim influance....nothing.....
HIs "christian" church is full of Racist......Ill post there Purpose statement again for you "non Believers"
Right on Point again BA....
who is your candidate BA? What do you think of Mit?
You lost me on the last question ("Mit"?). I'd be comfortatble with Rudy, even if he talks like Sylvester the Cat. :thumbsup:
If you're talking about Mitt Romney, he seems good, I'm not that familiar with him - I'll check him out, though.
Barack Obama: "I Inhaled Frequently," "That Was The Point"
No bong, the point of this thread was Obama and marijuana. You turned it into your Muslim fantasy land.
As far as Sharia law and marijuana goes, What would be the difference from now? Its "forbidden" as it is already. We pulled out of Vietnam before more good men died, Communism isn't running rampit. No way there just gonna walk in, snap there fingers, and re-wright our current laws. Now if we had better screeners at our airports , boarders, and ports they wouldn't be here to begin with. Bong you keep claiming Iraqi's should be more concerned about being Iraqi not Shia, Kurd, etc. Maybe you should take some notes on that.
Now as far as Obama and Marijuana goes,e was on Leno in Dec talking about it. But he also mentions that he "learned from his mistakes in life". Click this jaylenoisnotfunny link.