Can someone help me wire a 'lampholder'?

Yeah, you'll find if you don't pretend to be a female, or call someone out in a thread title, then you hardly get any input or responses from people :(

Wal-mart has the fan light attachment, near the fans. I think me and the other guy are using the exact same piece. My Wal Mart doesnt carry any fan stuff in the winter, so they won't be stocked here for a couple of months. Since its cold by you, you may find problems locating a fan too. But I love teh snow!#%$!

Your plant looks nice and healthy. Kind of a big container for its size, but it'll be ok, just tough to regulate watering. Keep the temps where you are at and don't overwater/overfeed it and she (hopefully!) will treat ya good

Ok, thanks for the help.

I've got some good news and some bad news if you may have been following my situation.

I may not need anything other than what I have now for lighting because a friend came over and looked at the grow and decided he could give me his (presumably old) 125watt HPS.

I might still pick up a few CFL's to add around the bud sites or just for helping even out the light, but with that I would have a problem.

The heat from the HPS is pretty intense for a small room like this, I've grown with them before and they were harsh on the plants in even remotely small places.

So fan will be needed, I'm not running one yet, and not really treating this grow as anything special, I'm actually hoping to buy some seeds online to really grow some stuff worth the trouble. Yet, if I get this light, and even without, I will need a fan. With the light, I'm likely to need a good fan for exhaust or intake, a good fan aimed directly at the planets, maybe rotating, and a good way to get the hot air out of the closet.

I can't imagine what to do other than to drill through the closet door. I have reflective sheeting to put up, but I'm not sure whether I should pretty much tape and seal off the whole closet where the walls go in, not even touching the door, but closing that and everything off entirely, as in, a wall of plastic/sheet material, with tape.

I would make a way to get in and out easily.

But I'm running a stealth grow and I need it to be relatively quiet. It can be relatively noisy in my room, because this computer is old and loud, but I definitely do not want to hear the wall vibrating walking up and down the hallway, that is directly outside or the same wall as, the back of the closet.

Someone suggested either cardboard layering, or finding (somehow) a bunch of old school plastic lunch trays, to mimic what they do when trying to build a homemade recording studio.

I would think to use rubber protectors and methods for grounding firmly, and dampening or insulating the noise at the connections to the wall. Would vibrations sound through just hanging on some wires?

Thanks for the reply. :jointsmile:

Well, I might have to return those big beautiful 12'' pots I bought the other day, well, not return, but replace with some 5 gallon pots like I have taken pictures of. They fit up top for veg, but I don't know how I would seal that off, because their top edges stick out over the edge of the shelf, and I would have to black/white poly the bottom of the shelf to the ceiling of the closet, to make it light proof so that I could veg 24/7 there, and flower below.

I'll do an update soon. But all I can say is that I have a 125w, and a 400w HPS on the way.

I've fed for 1 watering so far.

The one plant's grown a bunch, but has had many leaves cut up from rough handling and moving around so much, lst is untied for now, don't know when to flower, will get pics up tomorrow or the next day after some things arrive in the mail. Thanks to all who have helped, I need to start looking for a fan and a way to suck air out of the closet if I'm going to look to set up those HPS's though.

K, tour of the grow room a la ate style.
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Feel free to critique anything, not much attention so far, so maybe as things start to improve (i need a fan! got the light! :]) people will take notice.

First, the seedlings and veg area up top the closet, which will be closed off, vented, and only used for 24/7 COOL fluoro lighting for the seedlings or clones, have one clone in there right now, and many seedlings, I will take pictures of the insides of the pots later.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3351.jpg

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Random pot number 1:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3374.jpg

Random Pot number 2:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3370.jpg

The clone isn't looking too well :(:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3369.jpg


Here are the ferts and all the bottles and containers and things, got some root hormone, some random but selected bloom and veg fert and some already mixed up:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3352.jpg

The light:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3356.jpg

400w HPS from HTGSupply (hightechgarden: eBay Store - High Tech Garden Supply: NUTRIENTS FERTILIZERS, ADVANCED NUTRIENTS, Replacement LIGHT BULBS lamps) With a bulb with blue spectrum, even balance of red and blue, some more watts, and whatever else they advertised. All I know for suer is that it looks like a street light is in my closet, and that it will help the plants make food and gain weight. I got it extremely cheap compared to every other source I've seen, so check it out if you want.

Very bright: http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3355.jpg

Very compact housing and reflector: http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3354.jpg

And here's the little baby from earlier: http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3353.jpg

Getting bigger: These are all with LST in effect.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3347.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3329.jpg

Here's without LST:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3325.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3323.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3327.jpg

Nice bright yellow/orange sun bathing session: http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3328.jpg

I also trimmed off some lower leaves that were getting little light, and were also pretty ravaged from all the rough treatment and moving around this plant has been receiving due to my just now getting supplies. (can't forget that fan!)

Here's some more shots of the plant:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3360.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3361.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3362.jpg

Some close - ups:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3363.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3364.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3365.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3366.jpg

Clone I took earlier: http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3349.jpg

Hopefully the mom will be a mom.

Here's how I have the cord going in between the carpet and the wall, coming out of the closet so that with proper light proofing(which I will do when the black+white poly gets here) there will be no reason for suspicion or even upon close inspection, signs of activity, but let's hope there's never any need for that.

Here's the whole thing: http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3350.jpg

Sheesh:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/100_3368.jpg

I need that plastic sheeting soon! So I can sleep at night!


Thanks for the help so far, it's been wonderful, now for the future.

My plans are to take a zig zaw and cut a square or circle out of the wall to the left of the doors, going into the closet.

And then to hook up some vent tubing (robot arms) to hang right next to the bulb, and attach an inline fan to the end of the tube, that will be outside of the closet, through the wall. Then attach a scrubber to that if necessary.

But use this to primarily suck the heat right out of the closet from the light. I currently have the ballast sitting outside of the doors, with the cables going underneath. IF I have trouble working with this, as I'm sheeting up the whole opening with plastic, then I may have to put it inside and maybe even split that tubing so that I can also suck the heat off of the box, which acts like a heater, a literal room heater, or if I can, I'd just leave it out to maintain heat better. Those cables are perfect.

For the plants. I may have to sound proof the wall later, and take that mylar down and put new kind up. But I may buy some actual roll mylar online, so that it is smooth and neat, because I think they may be best for the plants and reflectivity, correct me if I'm wrong. But if the sound isn't too much, I wanted to get a regular oscillating desk fan, to sit right in there constantly blowing in the closet. Which would be a nice NICE treat for the plants, since they've been getting heated all grow (well, the one that's been there).

Thanks for all the help, just ask or point anything out if you know something I don't.

How close should the light be? If I only thought about getting a cool tube before I bought the light!

Awwwooohhh, c'mon guys! XD

Is this heat damage? Should I move the light farther back?

Should I trim all that build up leaf growth? Please guide me! This is my first grow, HALP!

Can I get a response from anyone!??

Is it because my plant is ugly?

It's me isn't it? :wtf: :(

No plants are ugly - its you :P - I told you, you didn't pretend to be a female. Funny, we registered within a week of each other - I guess we gotta stick together!

You want the lights as close as you can without burning them. CFL cooltube is kind of overkill, no need for that kind of cooling with cfls. My cfls are within 2 inches of my plants. Now if shes under that 400W HPS, its a whole different game. 400W in that cab s going to be tough without some serious cooling...

Only trim the leaves that are damaged/dead - I wouldn't trim any of those just yet. I dunno if thats heat stress per se, but definitely something made those top leaves unhappy. Looks like something is eating them kind of.

Shes gaining in size nicely, so whatevers going on can't be TOO too bad ya know?

Have you fed them yet? Any bug problems in the house? get a no-pest strip and throw it in the cabinet when you can, help eliminate the bugs (if there are any).

Dunno what to say man, its so hard without seeing 'em sometimes. What kind of ambient temperatures are you getting inside the cabinet - there are 2 temps you should be concerned about. With the thermometer in the direct light, it can get as high as 100+ and be ok, but in the shade in the cab, it should be below 80. Check your temps and lets see if we can get this baby on track

Thanks for replying.

I think the damage to those leaves was from me not knowing how to LST correctly.

It's doubled over mind you, so it's at about half the height that it would be at if it were directly up.

The temps are in the 90's all over the cab. Tomorrow me and my buddy will be drilling through the wall, as soon as we make sure there are no wires in the way.

Hopefully that will help with the heat, although I can't seem to do a damn thing about the light!

EVERYONE tells me, mylar and/or black/white poly works wonders!

Oh yea? My closet still glows with two sheets of black and white polyester in the way!

I don't know what to do, I'm trying to get some sleep at night!

Well first things first put your lights on 18/6 and get at least 6 hours sleep :P

OK so its in a closet right - not another cabinet inside the closet?

If you are using the whole closet, do you store other stuff in there? Or is it 100% a "grow area". Light leaks you have to fix - they may compromise the darkness you need to flower and let light in as well. That heavy duty black polyvinyl weatherstripping should work to block the light from the door, but you need to vent.

Lemme know the closet situation, if it is a 100% grow area, and what the dimensions are. If not, then you will have to build/install a cabinet inside the closet - what dimensions do you have to grow in?