Circumsicion

I have to agree with birdgirl on the grounds that it is in my mind nothing other than mutilation of children.
For those who are "done" and believe it to be better I would suggest you don't really have a lot of choice and never did. The foreskin is there for a reason, protection of the glans (head of the penis) and it should never be tampered with except for medical reasons not religion or because it's the done thing. Research has shown women and men get more pleasure during sex if the guy is uncircumcised.There is even a procedure for foreskin restoration : Restore Foreskin and Enjoy Lovemaking Better !
I have tats and piercings and voluntarily had them done, I have no regrets at all as I love my tats.

PS this is a foreskin restorer.

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Originally Posted by intrepidus6

First of all my religion does not condone the mutilation of anything. At the biggening of time the gods circumcised the first baby male humans (who were also the children of the gods) as a ceremony to celebrate the beggening of Earth. It is a sign of respect to ancient costoms, and to the gods to circumcise male infants.

There. That is really more than I should be saying to just any random person.

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i have nothing against religious beliefs, but some things are quite far fetched, and this is as far as they come for me.

what gods? lol they never asked me for their respect, and i dont see them respecting me, so why should i respect imaginary beings by mutilating my penis?

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Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf

i have nothing against religious beliefs, but some things are quite far fetched, and this is as far as they come for me.

what gods? lol they never asked me for their respect, and i dont see them respecting me, so why should i respect imaginary beings by mutilating my penis?

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I would rather not discuss this with somone I don't even know. When you start saying such things you are dabbling with great power. Please, lets discontinue our "conversation" of godly matters.

only expanding my mind, feel free to contact me at my hotmail messenger if you would like to share any insights then.

i tend to be very skeptical of such things, so forgive me for intruding.

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Originally Posted by intrepidus6

I would rather not discuss this with somone I don't even know. When you start saying such things you are dabbling with great power. Please, lets discontinue our "conversation" of godly matters.

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You're a bit perverse, aren't you? And a bit of a faker and a game-player, too, to be quite honest. First you sign up to participate on an anonymous, public Internet forum and engage in disucssions with perfect strangers. Then you initiate a discussion/create a thread on the subject of circumcision. You raise the subject of your religious motivations and justification for circumcision inside that thread. Then you demur when someone asks you to justify your stance, saying things like that's "really more than I should be saying to just any random person" and "I would rather not discuss this with somone I don't even know. . . . Please, let's discontinue our "conversation" of godly matters."

Just thought I'd point your remarkable hypocrisy here. If you don't want to discuss matters with strangers, you might want to avoid participation in an Internet discussion forum. And if you don't want to discuss a certain subject, you might want to avoid initiating threads on that topic--or avoid pointing to your own religious motivations and then demurring a subsequent question on the grounds that you don't want to discuss your religious motivations. Faker.

Looks like somone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning!

Seriusly, just because we disagree on the matter of circumcision does not give you any right to flame me like that. I said nothing to you that in any way should have started an argument.

I'm not exactly sure what you think I am a faker about... mind explaining? Or is me asking you to explain that just part of my "little game" that apparentally I am playing?

I love my penis. I love it in one piece.

If you like your's cut, fair enough. I still think it's wrong to cut off an infant's foreskin for such a small reason. Smegma, or "dick cheese", Is washed away in about two seconds. Apply soap as you would to any other circumcised penis, and you have the same thing, a dick. For me, personally, for any noticeable amount of smegma build-up, I need to be doing something like camping, and have not had a shower in three days. Small amounts can appear at the end of a day let's say, but that only happens after a day of thoroughly masturbating.

I just don't see a point to it... A circumcised penis is just as good as an un-circumcised penis, and vice versa. I just don't see the point of cutting off that little piece of skin.

Peace, :rastasmoke:

EDIT: Also, people need to take a look back when talking about this issue. It's a touchy thing. Men are very self conscious about their penis. So if someone says "Circumcised is better." Do to you think the guy with the ant-eaters gonna say, "Shit, he's right, my dick sucks..."

EDIT 2: LOL Imagine if an un-circumcised guy used that foreskin revival thing.

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Originally Posted by intrepidus6

Looks like somone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning!

Seriusly, just because we disagree on the matter of circumcision does not give you any right to flame me like that. I said nothing to you that in any way should have started an argument.

I'm not exactly sure what you think I am a faker about... mind explaining? Or is me asking you to explain that just part of my "little game" that apparentally I am playing?

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I'm in a perfectly good mood, Intrepidus6. I pointed out what seems very clearly to be your fakery just above. Also, I was simply being candid, not flaming you. And this has absolutely nothing to do with your stance on circumcision, I assure you. I disagree with people all the time on these boards quite happily, but if you had read what I wrote further above, you'd see that I believe circumcision for religious reasons is generally reasonable justification. Others disagreed with you on that that, but I wasn't one of them.

Let me spell this out for you again so you can understand where your hypocrisy stands out. If this doesn't help you understand what I'm saying, then you're simply going to have to stop and think about this for a time until it makes sense, and youâ??re going to need to read this information very slowly and deliberately. Letâ??s start with three basic facts:
1. You sign up to participate on an Internet forum where people discuss things with strangers.
2. You initiate a thread containing a poll on the subject of circumcision, asking if people are circumcised and what their opinions on the subject are. Later in the thread, you mention that you wish youâ??d been circumcised
3. You state your basis for supporting circumcision, which is your religious beliefs.

Now for the contradictions, which certainly look very hypocritical, considering the three corresponding facts above:
1. You demur (avoid giving an answer based on your scruples) answering someone's question in one of the posts above because you'd "rather not discuss this with someone I don't know." See the contradiction there? You're the one who signed up to participate on an Internet discussion board. That's who you discuss things with on these forums--perfect strangers.
2. When Stoner Shadow Wolf asked you why you wish youâ??d been circumcised, you said â??for religious reasonsâ?� but when he questioned you further, you told him youâ??ve already said more than you should â??to just any random person.â?� The contradiction here is the fact that you raised the subject and initiated the thread in the first place, then stated your own reasons for wishing youâ??d had the procedure. Yet you didnâ??t feel you could answer his questions because heâ??s a random person? Again, remember, youâ??re the one who signed up to participate on an Internet discussion board with, yes, random people. More than just one contradiction there.
3. When Stoner Shadow Wolf asked you why your religion condoned the removal of a boyâ??s foreskin, you gave a very brief explanation before demurring again on the basis that you really shouldnâ??t be discussing such things with a random person or someone you â??donâ??t even knowâ?� and saying you needed to discontinue your discussion of such godly matters. The contradiction here lies in the fact that you pointed to your religious beliefs to justify your support for circumcision, yet when he questioned you about it, you said you couldnâ??t continue discussing godly matters with someone you donâ??t know. Contradiction number 1 is involved here, too. Youâ??re discussing all this with people you donâ??t know. You started a thread to discuss this whole subject with people you donâ??t know.

Iâ??m fairly certain this may all confuse you further, and Iâ??ve just about come to the conclusion that youâ??re not able to read and understand things quite in the same fashion that others do, which means my assessment of you as a faker may indeed be inaccurate. If you were actually able to comprehend the posts above, none of what Iâ??ve said above would have been confusing to you, including that little aside regarding plastic surgery and tattoos, which you interpreted me as having disapproved of.

I certainly wish you well on your quest for circumcision peace, but I suspect that it may be of benefit to your mental health if I stop engaging you in further conversation here.

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Also, people need to take a look back when talking about this issue. It's a touchy thing. Men are very self conscious about their penis. So if someone says "Circumcised is better." Do to you think the guy with the ant-eaters gonna say, "Shit, he's right, my dick sucks..."

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No one has said circumcision is better, only that it makes sense due to easier upkeep and reduced risk from infections, be they bacterial or viral. No one has come in here proclaiming the top-hats to be 'Un-Improved Males' or anything. And on the contrary, men in this forum have largely proven themselves open to discussion on this topic, with senses of humor no less.
There are however some who continue to label circumcision as blatant mutilation despite facts that indicate otherwise - sorry, but I'm not mutilated, just different.
It should be noted however, that some uncut guys have already expressed sentiments to the effect that they wish they had been - which disproves your ending statement, albeit not with the same wording.

I'll say this much: being able to take a female up on her offer of spontaneous oral sex is nice as you don't have to worry about the normal fluid and dead cell production that comes with having an intact foreskin. "Hold that thought while I wipe this off" is a real mood killer I think. ;) Most girls are horrified at the thought of a guy going down on them and detecting 'clitty litter' and/or odor. I guess one of the reasons I hear so much negative feedback over it from my female friends is that a lot of uncut men unfortunately don't have similar concerns.

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LOL Imagine if an un-circumcised guy used that foreskin revival thing.

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Ugh yeah dude, that pic has been haunting me since I saw it, yuck - keeps making me think about all the gnarly little gizmos I saw on the History Channels show on Torture. On the plus side, you might be able to smoke a nug out of it! ;)


I was going to undertake a response to intrepid about the curious citing of religion and subsequent hastily beat retreat from it, but it seems birdie has already expounded my thoughts quite well!

"I would rather not discuss this with somone I don't even know. When you start saying such things you are dabbling with great power." :D How about when we type them, do they still pulse with power when we type them? :p

birdgirl youre a legend.