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Originally Posted by Abattoir Dream

well, yes, as a matter of fact there is plenty of proof that cold water stresses plants, firstly, when you stress a cannabis plants' roots, the leaves will often curl up like little boats, which is a sign of STRESS.

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Just because you say something doesn't mean it's proof. By proof I meant scientific or side by side studies, which you have not provided. In nature roots like to be cool, not room temperature. When it rains do the plants outside get shocked and do their leaves curl up. Of course, not. Think about it before shooting off your mouth. I used to let my water sit when I was a newbie like you but then I switched and there was no difference, so I know as I have seen with my own eyes. Not like you who probably read it on the internet and accepted it as gospel that roots are shocked by cold water. And secondly, I never get curled up leaves, so how do you explain that?

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Originally Posted by Abattoir Dream

so, you use cold water straight from the tap - how do you KNOW there is no slow growth, or shock/stress? - you have nothing to compare it to, plus, you cant be that much of a genius if you dont pH test your water...

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Ummm, yes I do have something to compare it too because I've done it both ways and there was no difference in growth. Plus, I never said I didn't PH the water, so you're wrong there. Don't put words in my mouth.

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Originally Posted by Abattoir Dream

as for the old timer refrigerating his water, its done for a reason, when you STRESS a budding plant, it will produce more resin, as it causes the plant to worry about bad/COLD weather, resin protects the plants and gets us stoned, so the more resin the better, - thats why the guy uses it, not because it promotes 'green, healthy growth,'

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Wrong again. My friend refridgerates his water throughout his whole grow, from sprout to bud so what you said about him is plain untrue. I doubt you know him or why he does things so don't say things you know nothing about. You are misleading people.

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Originally Posted by Abattoir Dream

dont use cold, un pH'd water for vegging as you will most likely stress your plants into being male or hermie, wait till its budding with female flowers before you screw around with cold water. just a tip, leave your water to sit for 24 hours and then use it, it will have less impurities and will be the right temperature to ensure no root stress...

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What you say about causing males and hermies by using cold water is UNTRUE as I KNOW because I DO IT and always get 70%+ females. Wrong again.

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Originally Posted by Abattoir Dream

dont try to be smart with me, especially when youve clearly misunderstood the whole concept of cold watering, and havent exactly been here long... its not a very good move... hopefully you might stop stressing your plants so much now... i hope so, for their sake.... - im out...

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Not trying to be smart, and the only one misunderstanding is you. Just because I haven't been HERE long doesn't mean I haven't grown for long nor that I don't know what I am talking about. Before I form an opinion on something I experiment and do side by side studies so when I say something it is from that personal experience, not because I read it on the internet somewhere like most of you. And my plants are doing very nicely, thank you, as you can see in my pics. The proof is in the pudding.

Personally I don't care what you do I'm just trying to help the people who want to separate the facts from the myths and you, sir, are only helping in perpetuating the myths that surround our favourite plant.

Good luck with your grow.

great job! don't give up dude. "u can do it"

thanks fast.

guys... keep it calm. there is no need to argue. it's all good. i like to use warm water for veg, cool for late flowering. also, when i harvest, i stick the roots in a tub of ice water for a good 10-20 minutes. it really seems to add some kick :)

chill. you're both probably great growers, so take it that someone does something differently and chill.

might have some new pics in a min, with a close up of a bad FIM job:eek:

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Originally Posted by chicago_white_guy

thanks fast.

guys... keep it calm. there is no need to argue. it's all good. i like to use warm water for veg, cool for late flowering. also, when i harvest, i stick the roots in a tub of ice water for a good 10-20 minutes. it really seems to add some kick :)

chill. you're both probably great growers, so take it that someone does something differently and chill.

might have some new pics in a min, with a close up of a bad FIM job:eek:

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You're right but I just hate it when people say things are facts when they're not.

BTW nice buds you got there. Keep up the good work.

Hey Chicago.....nice start! I have a recommendation for you though: try using a fan! Made a huge difference with my plant! Stem is starting to get thicker and I've heard that the constant motion is good exercise for the plant as well.....buff buds...lol.....good luck!

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What you say about causing males and hermies by using cold water is UNTRUE as I KNOW because I DO IT and always get 70%+ females. Wrong again.

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okay, well in that case i could say that cold water IS bad for females because i use warm water and ive NEVER had a male plant...

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Wrong again. My friend refridgerates his water throughout his whole grow, from sprout to bud so what you said about him is plain untrue. I doubt you know him or why he does things so don't say things you know nothing about. You are misleading people.

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how do you know for sure he actually knows what hes doing? after all, you havent given any reasons as to why he waters with cold water, - i bet you would have better results from watering with warm water thru vegg and using cold water to stress the plant during flowering...

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not because I read it on the internet somewhere like most of you.

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Not like you who probably read it on the internet and accepted it as gospel that roots are shocked by cold water.

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Don't put words in my mouth.

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lol right.... and your one to talk... plus i have done a few experiments with cold water not so long ago, and cold water thru the vegg. cycle doesnt accomplish anything... other than cause stress which is pointless when your in vegg.