Hardest "Christian" thing to do?

Since I don't believe in God it kinda goes without saying that I also do not believe in JC.
If we are all descended from Adam and Eve and they were both Gods children then weren't our forefathers all guilty of incest ?
I have my own moral code and to some I am a saint and to others a sinner, I decide for myself and I care not for those who judge me nor will I ever give an inch to my enemies.
I find the whole bible a complete work of fiction with far too many fantastic stories I see it as akin to the Lord of The Rings , a fantastic story but that's all.
I do however hold with the idea that if people do choose to believe and they find solace or whatever in their belief then good luck to them.
The edicts of do no harm unto others, honesty, trustworthyness and fairness are not foreign to me simply because I do not believe in any deity and I DO admire them in others.
I just believe in the edict Do me no harm and I will do you no harm, fuck with me and I'll fuck you up. Fair in my eyes.

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Originally Posted by psychocat

Since I don't believe in God it kinda goes without saying that I also do not believe in JC.
If we are all descended from Adam and Eve and they were both Gods children then weren't our forefathers all guilty of incest ?
I have my own moral code and to some I am a saint and to others a sinner, I decide for myself and I care not for those who judge me nor will I ever give an inch to my enemies.
I find the whole bible a complete work of fiction with far too many fantastic stories I see it as akin to the Lord of The Rings , a fantastic story but that's all.
I do however hold with the idea that if people do choose to believe and they find solace or whatever in their belief then good luck to them.
The edicts of do no harm unto others, honesty, trustworthyness and fairness are not foreign to me simply because I do not believe in any deity and I DO admire them in others.
I just believe in the edict Do me no harm and I will do you no harm, fuck with me and I'll fuck you up. Fair in my eyes.

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I respect your opinion as you do mine :thumbsup: .

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Originally Posted by psychocat

Since I don't believe in God it kinda goes without saying that I also do not believe in JC.
If we are all descended from Adam and Eve and they were both Gods children then weren't our forefathers all guilty of incest ?
I have my own moral code and to some I am a saint and to others a sinner, I decide for myself and I care not for those who judge me nor will I ever give an inch to my enemies.
I find the whole bible a complete work of fiction with far too many fantastic stories I see it as akin to the Lord of The Rings , a fantastic story but that's all.
I do however hold with the idea that if people do choose to believe and they find solace or whatever in their belief then good luck to them.
The edicts of do no harm unto others, honesty, trustworthyness and fairness are not foreign to me simply because I do not believe in any deity and I DO admire them in others.
I just believe in the edict Do me no harm and I will do you no harm, fuck with me and I'll fuck you up. Fair in my eyes.

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Everyone is different; we all value different things. You've made your choices, and they are certainly yours to make. It doesn't much matter what others think, imo. [If they judge] I think what matters is what/how a person thinks/feels about themselves.

I treat others how I would like to be treated, but if an enemy pushes too hard with violence, I will defend myself. [As we all should] I'd say one turn of the cheek is enough, wouldn't you?

Otherwise, us "religious nuts" would be in pretty bad shape. I do my best to avoid that kind of confrontation nowdays, but when it comes, I won't/don't sit on my ass and get whooped willingly. I'll at least put up a fight.

btw, I don't see myself as a "religious nut", [That is quite a label, btw] I see my self as someone who simply believes in something bigger than myself. My views come from the Bible, and I credit Jesus' testimony for what I've taken from it...



Much Love,

My religious nut comment may well have been a little harsh and it wasn't directed at anyone in particular, I apologise if I caused anyone offence.
I like to think I am a fairly level-headed person and I was brought up with "Christian" values , even attending a faith school between the ages of 9 and 11 (St Francis School), however I find the whole thing just a tad hard to swallow, each to their own is how I think. :thumbsup:


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My Ten Commandments

Cause no harm to those who cause you no harm.
Treat others how you would like to be treat.
Take shit off nobody
Don't give others shit unless you're prepared to take it from them.
Do the crime, do the time . (I hate whinging cons, I have done my time)
Only kill it if you're gonna eat it. (Doesn't include humans of course :D )
Avoid smack and crack at all costs.
Never ever trust people in authority NOT to abuse their position.
Opinions are like arseholes (we all have one) and just like arseholes sometimes opinions stink, accept it.
You only get one life, live it to the max !! :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by psychocat

My religious nut comment may well have been a little harsh and it wasn't directed at anyone in particular, I apologise if I caused anyone offence.
I like to think I am a fairly level-headed person and I was brought up with "Christian" values , even attending a faith school between the ages of 9 and 11 (St Francis School), however I find the whole thing just a tad hard to swallow, each to their own is how I think. :thumbsup:


PS
My Ten Commandments

Cause no harm to those who cause you no harm.
Treat others how you would like to be treat.
Take shit off nobody
Don't give others shit unless you're prepared to take it from them.
Do the crime, do the time . (I hate whinging cons, I have done my time)
Only kill it if you're gonna eat it. (Doesn't include humans of course :D )
Avoid smack and crack at all costs.
Never ever trust people in authority NOT to abuse their position.
Opinions are like arseholes (we all have one) and just like arseholes sometimes opinions stink, accept it.
You only get one life, live it to the max !! :thumbsup:

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You seem level headed, psychocat, and I Love your ten commandments, save one...I think a person should endure a little shit before acting in anger, but that's just me. ;)

btw, the 'religious nut' comment didn't offend me in the least; it was just inacurate, imo.


Much Love,

One thing that was touched on above....the hardest selling point of christianity, is the DEATH, HATE, and VIOLENCE. I live my life without these things, and I feel I am a better person for it. One time, we got the baptist's daughter to strip naked at a high school party....so im not really sold about this religion thing.

Being Christian doesn't mean you don't sin, no one Is perfect. Judas, one of jesus disciples, sold jesus out but he was still a christian. He became angry with himself for what he had done and commited suicide. That sounds like a crazy man to me, but he was Christian. That suicide thing was not cool though...

My one sentence answer:

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Because God does NOT exist as the personification we give him/her.

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Remember, God (or by whatever name you call the force/energy responsible for all of creation) is beyond comprehension by our relatively small and puny intellects. In order to relate to such an incomprehensible/unimaginable energy we create personifications such as God(s), angels, ect. All these concepts, whether you realize it or not, are of one and the same.

By taking the personifications too far and personally we create human fallacies which are incompatible with logic and science.

This is what I've come to terms with over my years..........toke up....:smokin:

The most difficult Christian value for me to adhere to (and I dislike the word "Christian" as it connotates "religion" and Christ himself never went to church or even required others to do so) is not judging others. I judge way too much every day, especially fat people who continue to stuff their faces.

If Judas is sent to Hell for his betrayal, and his betrayal was a necessary step in the humanity-saving death of Jesus Christ, then Judas is being punished for saving humanity. This goes hand-in-hand with the "free will" argument, and Aquinas's Summa deals with the issue of free will in demons and other beings instrumental in the life of Jesus that are nevertheless damned. This becomes a moot point in some denominations that denote Hell, not as a place of everlasting torture, but as non-existent state of the dead and the common grave of mankind.