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Originally Posted by ddropdeadfred
A very noble gesture and one I wasn't expecting. About the time you were really starting to piss me off, you had to go and earn my respect...lol
I strongly support our troops. I strongly support getting their asses out of Iraq in one piece.
(blow my dad--geez, now was that really necessary?)
sorry hamlet i get a little emotional sime times. i recently started college after my 4 years in the military and all my classes and everyone in them talks about the war and how horrible it is when they know nothing about it. it's very disheartening for so many people to think so horribly about something that i take great pride in the fact that I've done. I'm sorry i directed all my anger at you. eveyone says they support the troops. but bringing them home isn't the only way to support them. i proudly have a veterans license plate and my Marine Corps uniform cover displayed on my car. I'm young, I'm obviously not a Vietnam vet. I the last two years 2 people have stopped me where ever I was and thanked me and shook my hand. Two. In a nation of almost 300 million, two people have thanked me. I don't think everyone's "support the troops" means what our veterans think it means. Most of our troops do not think the war is bad, so if everyone could think on that level, at least to understand how our troops feel, maybe we could find better ways to "support the troops".
and to birdgirl: the people that our nation has killed over the last 100 years is a speck compared to the literally hundreds of millions that have been killed by totolitarian governments and war lords in the same time frame. we are fighting for those people. what if militia from surrounding states went to Delaware and started killing every one because all people from delaware were protestants? shouldn't someone do something about it? the thing is, all this shit is going on and no one in the area is willing to stop it and every one in the world looks to us, the shining star, to do something.
the marine corps symbol is the eagle-country, anchor-naval tradition, and the globe- WORLD WIDE SERVICE.
I have been to countries that i wouldn't even say were third world countries, that would be too nice. someone has to help these people.
Fred
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Yes, how come you can't tell the whole story. The 75 million difference is from "stock options" he received and never cashed in over a period of 20 years as part of his employment package. BEFORE the was picked to be VP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamlet
What he could of made by staying in the private sector, compared to what he is being paid by the US to be VP. Its probably COST HIM 8 -12 million dollars over the last 6 years.
" The 75 million difference is from "stock options" he received and never cashed"
Those stock options are worth 75 million now because...?
Haliburton even supplies mess to the troops. Not one case of contractor abuse (of which there are many) has been investigated or even questioned by this administration.
Because oil was selling for 78 dollors a barrel, as far as Haliburton even the Democrats have shut up about it because there is no there, there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamlet
They wiped that horse for all the politics they could get out of it, but when came right down to put up or shut up, they moved on.
They were able to accuse him of everything, prove nothing and have people walking around "knowing" it was "true" because they read un-supported accusations on the internet or saw it on TV.
Dick Cheney took way more of a pay cut than $8 million to $12 million per year to go back to the public sector, which I know he did because he wanted to and felt he could do some good. I also don't begrudge him that stock option or golden parachute money he got based on Halliburton's success in the war. Sure, Halliburton and its Kellogg Brown & Root subsiduary are making a killing, but that $75 million figure is just standard fare for CEOs of big Texas companies. They get these enormous stock options every year (Cheney is said to have about 450,000 in them from Halliburton) and the SEC laws allow them a smallish six-week window of opportunity to exercise them each year, generally. For tax reasons, of course, they usually exercise their options very gradually, and they usually use that sell-off option money to pay the taxes on their other investments and income.
CEOs and their cronies are the men I used to work for as a speechwriter, only I didn't write for Halliburton. I wrote for a technology company on whose board of directors Dick Cheney sat till he went back to the public sector.
CEO salaries are the real issue here. But it's true that Halliburton's stock has been enjoying good health thanks to KBR's monopoly in Iraq. It's rumored around Dallas that the SEC is going to be doing some investigating into that stock price, and my hunch is that congressional inquiries will be coming very soon. Halliburton has recently been awarded a number of Katrina-related contracts, too.
"Because oil was selling for 78 dollors a barrel, as far as Haliburton even the Democrats have shut up about it because there is no there, there."
Rush Limbaugh telling you this? Turn on another station besides Fox, or try a google search and listen to the rest of the world scream blooody murder about it.
Howdy fred,Quote:
Originally Posted by ddropdeadfred
Yeehhaaww !! Git em !:thumbsup:
God bless ya for yer service to our great country..and thanx from the bottom of my heart ! I'm a Navy vet myself and if I wasn't disabled and too old,I'd dang sure be back in,fighting for our country and the Free World. I salute ya sir !
Back in the '80's,I went over to Saudi to drill water-wells for em,boy howdy..was that ever an eye-opener ! Between sharia law and wahhabism,life truly sucked over there and we were under constant watch from the 'holy men' that walk around looking for violations of 'holy law',so we basically confined ourselves to our villa and stayed off of the streets,'cept for when we were going back and forth to the drilling rig.
Folks who're against the war on terror,often don't have any idea of what things are like,in a fundy muslim country,or just how tribal their thinking is and the way that they do things,for instance,in a fundy muslim family,the wife and daughters,rank just barely above the family camel and the family goat and are often treated much worse.
I suspect,that you feel the same way as me,that you will NOT be content with just yer freedom..while others suffer under cruel dictatorships..I cannot be content--until everyone is free.
Have a good one ! :stoned: :D
"Next time our country is attacked by terrorists, we can attack who did it...or Iraq."
Iraq was not a threat to us until we invaded them. This country had nothing to do with 9/11 until we got them all stirred up, and now they are a threat to our country...because we invaded theirs. George Bush is putting soldiers in harms way for other reasons that protecting the liberties of we American citizens...But honestly, there's nothing that we can do about it. His administration has an agenda, and it's going to be done regardless of what we have to say about it. Bush will break as many laws as he wants and needs to to get what he wants to be done done, and I think it's going to further shape a disfunctional government...Bring our boys home..