Yeh Res great post man, you sure know what your talking about.
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Yeh Res great post man, you sure know what your talking about.
crud, fast food is a ferocious beasty, aint it?
I definetly have to say I agree with Lulu about cooking. To cook is to eat healthy, so long as you cook healthy =oP Fast food is damn near poison... anyone seen Supersize Me yet? that crap they serve people is straight up deadly if thats all you eat...
oh yeah and about a pound of meat Vs a pound of grain... If i was given each of those items I could definetly do more with the meat... I don't know how to do shit with unprocessed grain LoL Meat on the other hand... broil it, BBQ it, saute it, bake it, boil it, eat it raw (tiger chow! yum yum)... and do all that with any number of home grown seasonings and everything... I love meat... meat meat meat meat :D
LoL =oP
I don't think that food is entirely to blame for all the people with weight issues. I think it is more our dependence on convenience. Everything is delivered and made easy for people nowdays. Less people are working out. But you are right about the quality of food going down. Crap food is everywhere, but you can still buy quality meat. You can stay healthy and eat meat on a regular basis. If you don't workout and stay in shape then it won't work for you at all. The healthiest I have been is on a solid redmeat diet with carbs cut low. When is the last time you saw a fat carnivore? Couldn't stay on it too long, too damn expensive. I try to shop at organic food stores as much as possible, but I still crave crap food now and then. Who grabs a salad when they have the munchies??? :)
Ha, you make a very good point, Lulu - especially about the convenience foods (of which I am particularly guilty *hangs head in shame*).
It's all about education about what we are doing to ourselves and the world around us.
Cause and effect?
And I totally agree with your 'prediction' of an unhealthy future generation.
I am mindful of the level of sugar intake that I allow my kids, but then I am only there for 3 of the 7days of their week - and I know that the ex often takes them to MCDonalds, which I am not entirely happy about - as it seems to me (in my unbiased :rolleyes: opinion), that it is bourne of a greater laziness than I exhibit, as I do at least try to make an effort at cooking at the weekends for the kids.
But I remember when you (lulu) spoke of your childhood memories, back along, when you told us that your mother was always home when you got home from school.
How many kids today can say the same thing?
It is the way of the world, sadly, which only bolsters my arguement above.
We have lost our sense of values (I am generalising, of course :))
It makes me laugh, when I hear of those great plans to colonise other worlds!
Why?
So we can desimate those planets too?
Better that we try to fix this one first, eh?
Nah, it'll cost too much money............................................. ....
I rest my case lmaoooo
(well, for now anyways mwahhaa)
Q: what is organic?Quote:
Originally Posted by sawleaf
And, salads seem to have a general 'stigma' attached to them. I for one rarely think of prepping a salad, but if one is put in front of me, then I invariably enjoy it! Wierd, but there ya go...convenience again, init!
http://www.ota.com/organic/definition.html :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RESiNATE
how is it necessary? we can live longer, healthier lives without meat. We can sustain our planet, too. The fact is, we don't need it at all. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sawleaf
oh and you said it wouldn't save any animals from being killed...could be true. but personally by not eating the little guys i am not contributing to the deaths of about 80 animals every year!
a vegetarian diet suits the human body better than a diet that includes meat. carnivorous animals have claws, short digestive tracts, and long, curved fangs. humans have flat, flexible nails, and our so-called ??canine? teeth are minuscule compared to those of carnivores and even compared to vegetarian primates like gorillas and orangutans.
our tiny canine teeth are better suited to biting into fruits than tearing through tough hides. We have flat molars and long digestive tracts that are suited to diets of vegetables, fruits, and grains. eating meat is hazardous to our health and contributes to heart disease, cancer, and many other health problems. :rolleyes:
Thanks,Lulu.
So, unless these vegs are grown in a controlled environment, they can never be totally free of pesticides, additives, or chemicals due to precipitation (?)
And, isn't our preoccupation (nay, fastigiousness) towards clinical cleanliness a factor of our increasing susceptabilty to illness and disease?
A little dirt don't hurt.
Now, GM crops are an entirely different matter, and it has been suggested that the cause of the growing obesity 'epidemic' is largely due to the consumation of these genetically modified (ie, bigger, better?) foods.
Playing God?
Hmmmm
I dunno, I think that we are too easily accepting of what we are told is 'good' for us, and I'm constanly seeing conflicting reports of what is good and what is not.
Like, I used to use toothpaste - but am now of a mind that scrubbing my teeth with an abrasive substance is detrimental to the health of my teeth. Sure, I still use it, but mainly for fresh breath, and only rarely (3 times a week), opting for just plain water most of the time.
Heck, off topic or what? lol
I just think that I would rather listen to what my body is telling me, rather than some boffin in a white coat (who, incidentally, is often subsidised by major drug companies....coersion?)
i could add to this thread, but everything has already been said.. its true, one person becoming vegetarian wont stop anything, but a million will.. ten million will do even more.. what about 100 million?.. as all political parties say in the run up to the elections in every country, "every vote counts"
and nice posts, res, lulu and euphoric :)
as far as i see it; those who care, do.. and those who don't care, don't
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Originally Posted by Euphoric
I live a healthy life eating meat and working out. I have nothing against your lifestyle, but the thing I can't stand about most vegetarians is that they try to force their ideals onto other people and make people feel guilty for eating meat. I don't feel guilty at all. And if you buy grain at the store yes you are contributing to animal deaths also. More animals are killed in grain harvests each year than in slaughter houses. Or are rodents and smaller animals less important than animals used for meat?
http://www.animalrights.net/archives...02/000083.html