Communism

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Originally Posted by graymatter

Or, the other company can call out their corporate lawyers and remind everyone of the non-compete clauses... and there goes my dream of slaying the corporate Goliath.

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If you agree to something like that, it's your own fault - you agreed to it! I, for one, will (most likely) never agree to something like that.

well of course communism doesnt work, most marxist theories have been disproved as simply incorrect, especially (lol) his model of social stratification. excessive capitalism doesnt work either, as there are no state provided public goods, the poor simply starve and cant afford medicine or doctors due to lack of social provisions, everyone has to pay for everything, regardless of income.

in a perfect world, the very rich would take some of the burden off the very poor. a rich mans vote is the same as a poor mans vote. all schooling and medicare would be free. the police would have limited powers, only enough to protect and serve in a proper sense of the word. the government would be truly democratic, there would be true freedom of speech. drug sentences would be small, while violent crime sentences would be high. this world exists: its called socialism. and bong30, if ur looking for someone 'clever' enough to argue the point with, bring it on...

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Originally Posted by anycraic

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in a perfect world, the very rich would take some of the burden off the very poor. a rich mans vote is the same as a poor mans vote. all schooling and medicare would be free. the police would have limited powers, only enough to protect and serve in a proper sense of the word. the government would be truly democratic, there would be true freedom of speech.

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:thumbsup: Not all "college's" are free and there's not universal health care in America yet but we're working on it.

I don't like communism at all, to be blunt. People see it as a means of becoming more able and free. What is freedom if you can't be the best you can be? If people punish you for excelling. Life is not fair, but don't put insane amounts of power in the government to save you from that.

Life is about struggle. Victory. Defeat. What's the point if you're told where to work, how much money you can make, and what products to buy? That's freedom? I can't choose to spend my money how I want? I'm forced to buy shitty product A or B?

Fuck that man, I wana watch the FUNNIEST movie smoking the BEST weed with money I'll spend of my own choosing; not the governments.

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Originally Posted by insaen1

Iâ??ll have more to say on this subject later (a post Iâ??ve been meaning to get to for a month), but let me whet your appetite: In Star Trek, there is no money. People work at what they want to, as much as they wish to. In exchange all their needs are taken care of...

In Star Trek, energy can be converted into matter at seemingly minimal cost. This matter can be any form from a rock, to a steak sandwich, to a warp nacelle...

Therefore we can see: communism can only work if you violate the laws of physics...

Also, the Ferengi, Romulans, and Dominion all have capitalist economies to some extent. And each of them has a better tech. base than the Federation...

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Actually I'd call it like this:

Federation: Democracy, different levels of success
Ferengi, Romulans, Dominion: Dictatorships, conquest for profit
The Borg:Communism, all working for the state, do difference in status, the state provides all

Should get Torog on this one.......he's a Trek freak too. Not saying thats bad...Live Long and Prosporous:D

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Transition Force

If you agree to something like that, it's your own fault - you agreed to it! I, for one, will (most likely) never agree to something like that.

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So, would you agree that capitalism is somewhat (more than half) predatory, since you've agreed that not agreeing to a non-compete clause is something you wouldn't agree to?

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Originally Posted by Jake Martinez

What happened to doing things with your heart instead of your pocketbook?

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In my opinion, that's the only way one should strive to make money. Capitalism allows you to follow your heart and do the best you can while doing it.

You don't have to become a souless, greedy zombie. You can start your own business selling bird-houses. Sell your paintings. Be a rockstar. An astounding novelist.

When one thinks of capitalism they think of big greedy corporations, but that's only part of the picture. It's an ideology that says I'm going to follow my heart and my dreams as far as they'll take me. Some quantify that drive in dollars, others in how good it feels to create something and make profit off of what you've given to the world.

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Originally Posted by Nylo

In my opinion, that's the only way one should strive to make money. Capitalism allows you to follow your heart and do the best you can while doing it.

You don't have to become a souless, greedy zombie. You can start your own business selling bird-houses. Sell your paintings. Be a rockstar. An astounding novelist.

When one thinks of capitalism they think of big greedy corporations, but that's only part of the picture. It's an ideology that says I'm going to follow my heart and my dreams as far as they'll take me. Some quantify that drive in dollars, others in how good it feels to create something and make profit off of what you've given to the world.

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That is only the tip of the iceberg of capitalism.

We do not live in a truly capitalistic society. If we did, all roads would've be owned and maintained by private corporations, so would the military, so would every bit of infrastructure, because government intrusion would be limited. The government's only role would be to set up laws, and enforcement could be relied on a private company.

Capitalism can go too far. It's hardly about "selling your paintings" that can be done in any society. It's the restriction of what the government regulates.

Communism is a tremendous idea.

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Originally Posted by 4teenyellow

Communism is a tremendous idea.

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Communism is the greatest threat to freedom the world has ever known, and the last refuge of Godless Humanism...

OK, things are changing... Terrorism is the last refuge of freedom haters.

Oh, but wait! This just in, in a dramatic turn of events, Washington, D.C., has declared Iran's nuclear ambitions as the last refuge and threat against freedom...

Oh, but there's more, the Jonbonet Ramsey dude (Michael Jackson wannabee) is not her killer...