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Yaba.... insted of micky ds and bibles.
How about just give women equal rights allow freedom of religon.. for a start.
I have Said it before... NOW i hear people talking about it.
ISLAM NEEDS A REFORMATION...............
The Batth Party is not it.............
I understand where you are coming from but forcing a country toQuote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
change centuries of beliefs and its way of life is causing nothing
but civil war and chaos. A forced democracy will not work you can
see what imposing democracy on Iraq has done. They are worse off
now than they were before america decided to occupy. There is more
to this than merely riding a country of an evil dictator and giving them
democracy.
As far as Islam needing reform the religious fanatics are the minority
in the muslim religion. But nun-the-less dangerous, their views are
being herd more so now that the middle east is in turmoil.
I may be wrong, but Israel doesn't go around shoutingQuote:
Originally Posted by psychocat
DEATH TO THE JEWS!!!
DEATH TO THE WEST!!!!!
LIFE IS GOOD, MARTYRDOM IS BETTER!!!!
I'm guessing you have to pass the "I'm not crazy as fuck" test first. Iran, by all standards, fails that test.
Nylo ............. you are right on point
Everything Seems To Be Going... According To Plan. The Only Sortage This Planet Has Is One Of Real Soldiers Who Fight For What Is Right As Oppose To What They Are Conditioned To Think Is Right. See The Difference? Democracy Fucks Things Up! It Is Destructive Hypocrisy... is that the right term? People And What They Think About, Are More Dangerous Than Weapons.
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Originally Posted by Nylo
The sad part is the majority of Iranians want to join the western world,the 21st century as modern Muslims with all it has to offer and live in piece.
It (a small group) the Leadership that wants to murder all they can following some perverted 12th century mentality.
Careful, SpiritLevel, you're letting the 'real you' show a bit there with your "democracy fucks things up" comment. So, if the people shouldn't make decisions (directly or indirectly), then...who should? The people who are gonna 'save us' from the masses of crazed voters?
Democracy is the worst form of government...except for all the others.
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Originally Posted by Nylo
Then how in hells name did the US get to hold onto their nukes?? :D
I am interseted in your point about the 'real me'. Describe to me the appearance of who the real me is according to your new found perception. I thought the real me had been on show all this time, I think it has just taken some months for you to tune in.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamstigator
Demonic Hypocrisy (democracy) does fuck things up. When I hear U.S and U.K politicians speaking of democracy (democratic states and shyt) and how all countries should have it, as soon as they try and implement it thousands of people wind up dead. All democracy does is put the west in a steadfast position to have countries adhere to western ideals and pile-of-lil-tricks (politics) direrectly and indirectly. Democracy doesn't give people their say. Democracy fools people into thinking they have had a say. If democracy is the worst form of government, and then you say other forms of governance are worse, then any kind of government that we are familiar with is inappropriate.
Can you elaborate on '...So, if the people shouldn't make decisions (directly or indirectly), then...who should? The people who are gonna 'save us' from the masses of crazed voters?...'. When do you make decissions, besides those that affect your self, your immediate home and family? Are those family/home based decissions democratic? I am almost certain the majority of decissions non-elite people make on a day to day do not affect the runnings of the world. Even voting at election time doesn't affect the running of some countries because if someone wants to get into power, they can wave a few bucks and bob's-your-uncle; they are in!
And so, you would replace democracy and voting with...what? Socialism? Communism? Anarchy? Barbarism? Dictatorship? Theocracy? Got something new in mind that people haven't tried? You want to tear down democracy, okay, I get that. But what do you want to see it replaced with?