(An off-subject insertion.) Hope things are going well for you today, Marlboroman. I've been working hard at sending positive mind-vibes in your direction and thinking about you and your kids a lot.
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(An off-subject insertion.) Hope things are going well for you today, Marlboroman. I've been working hard at sending positive mind-vibes in your direction and thinking about you and your kids a lot.
Thank you very much Birdgirl, you have a kind heart, quite kind indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by birdgirl73
Those in your life, are very lucky, to have you in theirs.
Well, that was just plain evidence that you have a far kinder heart yourself. No doubt about that. Thanks, hon!
If you can go there and look at what happened without shedding a tear or at least having some emotion about the events that took place... thats what I mean.. its not about how it happened.. its about what happened.. Im sure we are only a few years away from some yahoo showing up on these boards saying there were never any world trade centers and they were just computer generated into old pics of new york.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marlboroman
Oh and last I checked I dont really give a fuck about formality here.. I speak, act, and write things differently when I am not at work because I believe the engineers who take their smug overcompensating vocabularies and formality home with them are.. simply overcompensating. I am good at what I do and I dont need to talk above or act above everyone else just to prove some kind of point. I get to worry about that shit when I am working.. here I relax. If you want to compair SAT/ACT scores, GPAs or.. salaries :D
Look.. Im not about to get in a pissing contest online about what I know.. I have had people tell me so many things that I have personally proven wrong about this stuff that its useless to continue.. you wont believe what I say anyways because Im a republican.. or maybe because I am a jew.. either way.. its futile. I will take an American diplomatic stance on this and say as long as your not planning on doing anything to harm my country I could care less what you think.
If you have a more respectful request that you would honestly like me to look into or explain.. please be more respectful and I will help you understand anything that may seem inconsistent.
Hey, Aaron, I've always wondered what age range you're in. Just my curiosity. You're very passionate, which leads me to believe under 30, but I might be wrong. It's not related to anything specifically here but just to having read your threads since you came online.
the first portion of this clip shows red hot metal being removed from WTC 6 weeks after the fact.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...n+steel+9%2F11
BYU Physics professor and founder of SCHOLARS FOR 9/11 TRUTH Steven E Jones presents his presentation on the collapse of WTC Buildings 1,2, ... all » and 7 on 9/11. A very informative and scientific presentation that raises serious questions about the official account of the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7.
Steven E. Jones is a complete CRACKPOT! Even his fellow Morman professors at BYU have distanced themselves from him with regards to his 9/11 theories. Would you really trust the man that wrote the things below to give a scientific opinion on anything, especially something that he has a "special interist in"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Perilus Jinx
http://www.physics.byu.edu/faculty/j...%20figures.htm
Behold My Hands: Evidence for Christ's Visit in Ancient America
By Steven E. Jones
The Book of Mormon makes the bold statement that Jesus Christ, shortly following His resurrection, visited people in the New World and invited them to "feel the prints of the nails in my hands and in my feet, that ye may know that I am...the God of the whole earth, and have been slain for the sins of the world. ... Ye are they of whom I said: Other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice..." (3 Nephi 11:14, 15:21). The Bible states that Jesus "showed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days" and that this witness of Christ would be "unto the uttermost part of the earth." (Acts 1:3-8) and that Jesus would indeed visit "other sheep" (John 10:16).
Several years ago, an idea popped into my head: Would people in the New World who also saw Jesus Christ leave memorials of this supernal experience by showing marked hands of Deity in their artwork? So I began a search with the following hypothesis-to be tested: Ancient artwork portraying a deity with deliberate markings on his hands will be found somewhere in the Americas. A crazy idea, maybe - but wait till you see the artwork of the ancient Maya!
For more of this junk science, see the link.
Lets see..........Quote:
Originally Posted by Perilus Jinx
Since Jones' paper has not been published in a scientific journal, there are some academicians, including some from Jones' own university, who question whether the article has been properly vetted by other experts in the field.[5] Some of Jones' colleagues disagree with his theory regarding the collapse of the towers. The BYU physics department has issued a statement: "The university is aware that Professor Steven Jones's hypotheses and interpretations of evidence regarding the collapse of World Trade Center buildings are being questioned by a number of scholars and practitioners, including many of BYU's own faculty. Professor Jones' department and college administrators are not convinced that his analyses and hypotheses have been submitted to relevant scientific venues that would ensure rigorous technical peer review." The Fulton College of Engineering and Technology department has also added, "The structural engineering faculty in the Fulton College of Engineering and Technology do not support the hypotheses of Professor Jones.".[6] <<<<<<<<<<<<<His own department is calling him a NUTJOB
D. Allan Firmage, Professor Emeritus, Civil Engineering, Brigham Young University[7], responded to an article from the Provo Daily Herald which detailed a presentation that Steven Jones had recently given, and remarked that after reading reports from FEMA, the American Society of Civil Engineers and from several other professional engineering organizations, as well as the Steven Jones report, that, "I find Professor Jones' thesis that planted explosives (rather than fire from the planes) caused the collapse of the Towers, very unreliable." Dr. Firmage also stated that, "Before one (especially students) supports such a conspiracy theory, they should investigate all details of the theory. To me a practicing structural engineer of 57 continuous years (1941-1998), Professor Jones' presentations are very disturbing.".[
Seams that Jones is nut job................ He is brainwashing you.......
shake it off....
bird girl - you are correct :)
But I still feel like I could have done more. I went to a conference last weekend where the new senior fellow to Condalissa Rices' (spelling whatever) advising staff was giving a speech.. talking about sucess and all this stuff he had done.. which included getting a phD from Oxford, leading a whole division in Iraq.. publishing a book on foriegn policy.. and being accepted as a senior advisor to Condis staff.. he then took questions and answered them better than I have ever in my life seen real questions answered.. as calm and cool as possible and they were definatly not staged questions.. but he answered them as perfect as if he was on tape being played back.. He gave up a basketball scholarship to join ROTC.. I mean this guy really had an impact on me.. like where I want to go with my life kind of impact..
At the end of the whole thing the guy that introduced him came out and told him to tell everyone how old he was... he said.. twenty seven.. and a STANDING OVATION ensued.
So I guess I have some catching up to do.. hehe.. Im not the best but seeing him and his achievements motivates me to strive for more.
Heres's a MUCH more reliable source for WTC studies, by a team of world renowned experts assembled by the National Institute of Standards and Technology: http://wtc.nist.gov/
NIST and the World Trade Center
The collapse of New York Cityâ??s World Trade Center structures following the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, was the worst building disaster in recorded history, killing some 2,800 people. More than 350 fire and emergency responders were among those killed, the largest loss of life for this group in a single incident.
In response to the WTC tragedy, the National Institute of Standards and Technology conducted a 3-year building and fire safety investigation to study the factors contributing to the probable cause (or causes) of post-impact collapse of the WTC Towers (WTC 1 and 2) and WTC 7; expanded its research in areas of high-priority need such as prevention of progressive collapse, fire resistance design and retrofit of structures, and fire resistive coatings for structural steel; and is reaching out to the building and fire safety communities to pave the way for timely, expedited considerations of recommendations stemmng from the investigation.
National Construction Safety Team for WTC Investigation
Shyam Sunder - Lead Technical Investigator
William Grosshandler - Associate Technical Investigator
Project Leader, Project 4:Investigation of Active Fire Protection Systems
H.S. Lew - Co-Project Leader, Project 1: Analysis of Building and Fire Codes and Practices
Richard Bukowski - Co-Project Leader, Project 1: Analysis of Building and Fire Codes and Practices
Fahim Sadek - Project Leader, Project 2: Baseline Structural Performance and Aircraft Impact Damage Prediction
Frank Gayle (MSEL) - Project Leader, Project 3: Mechanical and Metallurgical Analysis of Structural Steel
Richard Gann - Project Leader, Project 5: Reconstruction of Thermal and Tenability Environment
John Gross - Co-Project Leader, Project 6: Structural Fire Response and Collapse
Therese McAllister - Co-Project Leader, Project 6: Structural Fire Response and Collapse
Jason Averill - Project Leader, Project 7: Occupant Behavior, Egress, and Emergency Communications
Randy Lawson - Project Leader, Project 8: Fire Service Technologies and Guidelines
Harold E. Nelson - Fire Protection Engineering Expert
Stephen Cauffman - Program Manager
NIST Expert Consultants
Project 5, Reconstruction of Thermal and Tenability Environment
Valentine Junker - Project 8, Fire Service Technologies and Guidelines
Vincent Dunn
John Hodgens
Kevin Malley