Drug users are Modernists who despise Classicism

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

Well, I smoke pot because I like to get high. Some people drink beer, because they like to get drunk. Do you consider drinkers to be the same as these drug users you speak of? I don't hate anything classical. In fact, I love to learn about ancient Greece and Rome, because it interests me. I've never really been big on art, but I do not despise it. In fact, classical art makes for sense to me than most modern art. By the way, who else likes chili?

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Nice point, considering the Romans were known for their drunken orgies (not to mention homosexual pedophilia----but, yeah, I guess you are right, Dante A. Society is worse off now)...

AND I am SURE that good old Cicero and Dante attended a few...

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Originally Posted by Dante Alighieri

That wasn't really a central crux of Divina Comedia, Augustine many centuries earlier dealt with the above issue in his city of god.

But does the fact Dante was religious make his poetry any less brilliant?

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It wasn't a central theme of Divina Comedia but it was a central theme in Dante himself, as most biographies will tell you.

Would his religiousness make his poetry any less brilliant? Not to me, no.

And classical or Renaissance religious art is no less brilliant. Michaelangelo's Pieta? It doesn't get any better than that.

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Originally Posted by Dante Alighieri

I forgot to add, drug users are also possibly the most anti-intellectual people you are likely to meet

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:rolleyes:

Why don't you man up and study some CONTEMPORARY philosophy?

Or are you scared that it is too difficult to comprehend for your feeble Classical mind? A little Wittgenstein, Foucault, Russell or Quine anyone?

HAHAHAHA!!!! :smokin:

BTW, I am just joking mate. I figure you are, too. If you are serious about all of this, please seek help.

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Originally Posted by Binzhoubum

And BTW, who gives a flying fuck about Dante or Cicero in the year 2006?
. . . . Come on....grow up. :

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Ah, careless youth. When you mature, yourself, I hope you'll give a flying one. You're too smart not to.

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Originally Posted by Binzhoubum

And BTW, who gives a flying fuck about Dante or Cicero in the year 2006?

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A lot of people, some unfortunately choose to idolize the likes of John Lennon. Who, thankfully, died young enough that his perversive influence on the plebs of society did not deepen.

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I mean honestly man, ALOT has changed since then. How do you feel about postmodernists?

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Post-Modernism is broad and general, but it's ideas of individual liberty in my opinion are vastly different to those of the classical liberals like John Locke, it is individual-centric and hence gives no regard to the welfare or state of society at large, I say this not in a socialist sense, but rather in a sense of one who laments the way modern society can worship things like fame (for the most ridiculous of reasons) to the extent they do.

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How do you feel about people who don't classify themselves as anything and who live, breathe, and think freely?

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You're trying to invent a whole new category of social thought which is incredibly vague so you can tailor it to your own beliefs as the argument shifts. I mean, what classifies as 'thinking freely'?

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If I believe studying Cicero and his principles of government and society are a complete waste of time, am I stupid simply in virtue of my tastes in literature?

Come on....grow up. :smokin:

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I assume you are talking about his 'Res Publica'? It's sad you can't see the influence of Classical Political thought in our present day society. This only goes to prove your ignorance further. I consider it of the greatest importance, you on the other hand, probably consider modern music of the greatest importance, to each his own.

Oh, and they weren't really 'his' ideas on the principles of Government, they were Platonian at their base.

Lol. Quite the lil shindig in here, huh?

Dante, all I will say is that you might want to stop hiding behind your ancient cultures and pseudo-intellect-mumbo-jumbo. You cannot just come here, spouting off bullshit, and not expect to feel the repercussions of doing so. I too wonder where the hell your head's at, and also if you even are considered a "drug user". Grouping all drug users into one beefy stereotype-sandwich just made me sick.

I'm sure there's more to you than all those ridiculous fables you tell.

In either case, I love you. Welcome. ~

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Originally Posted by Binzhoubum

Nice point, considering the Romans were known for their drunken orgies (not to mention homosexual pedophilia----but, yeah, I guess you are right, Dante A. Society is worse off now)...

AND I am SURE that good old Cicero and Dante attended a few...

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An amateur at classical history obviously, sorry but thats a myth - There were a few patricians from rich families who engaged in such acts, but how can you judge the entirety of roman society (whose morality was very similar to Judeo-Christian), based on that?

Cicero was a Conservative so it was likely he didn't. Oh, and Dante was from the Middle-Ages, not Classical Rome.

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Modern art is influenced by Classical or Neo-Classical artforms? In what ways?

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same way that you ( a modern person) is influenced by classical life.

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Originally Posted by birdgirl73

Ah, careless youth. When you mature, yourself, I hope you'll give a flying one. You're too smart not to.

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Thanks for the compliment Birdgirl!

I was just caught up in the moment...:D

I have a copy of Plato's great dialogues and a Krishnamurti collection sitting on the desk right now.

Don't get me wrong...I respect the classics...I just don't have much respect for people who put all of their energy, intellect, faith, etc. into one "-ism". Especially when they start off the day as an asshole. :thumbsup: