clones in DIY aero cloner not lookin so good ?

yea, I'm curious on what ammount of on and off times people use.

go to pet store...like petrus and go to iquana/reptile area.

they have what is called a day/night timer, or*wave-maker timer.(*you can place power heads at different angles in a pool to create cross turbulence, or something like that.)

anyway...It costs about 28 bucks and you can set on/off every 15 minutes, furthermore what is cool...the day/night function allows you to have 3 seperate way to control a grow-room from a single timing device.
1st. It has 4 constant power inputs...
the 24 hour timer has 2 day and 2 night inputs.
So, I use mine like this.
I put my 24 hour on appliances...i.e. airpumps are on 24/7
Fans...
then I put my nutrient rez pump on the daytime timer.

The daytime side is yellow inputs and will turn on/off every 15 minutes or one time in a 12 hour period, or whatever...MInimum 15minute settings....I use 15 on 15 off for clones...45 on and 15 off for growing.

someone with ebb and flow might turn their pumps on 15 minutes then off for anywhere from 2 hours to 12 hours...depending on medium used. Sorry, I didn't mean to rant, but I just started typing and all this came out.

the blue inputs for night turn on an off when the lights are out...co2 or automated night foliar feeding...ooooooooohhH,
got you thinking now, HUH? Anything you can think of

Oh yeah fans can also be put into this On the constant 4 input side or on the timers...so The big one can be off most of the night photoperiod.

OK, enough of this rant...give somebody else a chance...

No, I can't STTtttooooopppp, Just kidding. LOL

good buddage. Kaliorange-skunk

I gotta go! lw

I just looked up my timer schedule. It was the closest I could come to what I wanted with the 14 event $20 timer. It is 30 on and 75 off. (This is for rooting in the aerocloner.) For rooting clones it doesn't really matter, as long as the roots don't completly dry out. If I could afford another cyclstat I would do something like 6 minutes on and 45 off. I know many people leave theirs on all the time and get great results. The theory behind an off time though is to have the roots search for moisture, and also to not get too saturated, which can cause mold/rot problems. Many people, myself included, think that roots grow bigger and faster if they have to search out moisture.

For delivering nutes, my veg area and my bloom area are on one timer, which is set at 40 seconds on and 7 minutes off. A popular number seems to be 1 minute on and 4 off. I know you can buy non adjustable cyclstats that use these numbers. I think they are around $85. I think you want to keep the roots in as much air as possible without drying out. You may have to experiment to find out what these times are for your set up.

well I went cheep and picked up a timer that has 15 min intervals, so would 15 on and 30 off be too much off time the only reason I ask is because 15 on and 15 off is allot of "off and on" that the pump is going to be doing and I don't know how long the pump would hold out ?? right now I have it on 15 on adn 15 off but if I could stretch it out a bit that would be nice...

that should not be a problem...I have run mine at all different intervels for a long time.

commercial tomato growers water 45seconds on 5 minutes off, drip to waste...the most efficient method believe it or not...they do exactly as opie says. beto buckets (beige hydro buckets) hold just enough nute solution to keep roots searching and growing all the time///lw

cool thanks. I'll try switching them over to 15/30 a little later today. they kinda had a long night power went out for 3 hrs. so they got no water for that long but all look ok sofar.

here are a couple pics just for the heck of it
the first two are when I first got the 36 site going , the third shows the added "air tube" ,and last is a pic of the moms which was taken about 4 days ago

Thanks
DH

A couple look a little droopy, but don't worry, that happens to me all the time and they snap out of it. Often these droopy ones seem to turn out better.

Overall, looking good, glad to see it. And no, I don't think 30 minutes off is too much for rooting. I do 70 off, I think. If you're worried about it I suggest you start with 15 off and build up to longer off times.

cool thanks !!

I learned to clone from Zandor basically...you should run your water as much as possible...don't leave water off too long or temps in rez...

I'm just trying to battle a little heat from the pump with out spending the money on a aquarium chiller...I'm sure you've been there or are there...LOL..